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[QUOTE="Moobopper"]Most of the mass murderers have been liberals. IdioticIcarus
I don't really think this is true.
Yeah, I think most of the politically motivate mass murderers have probably been Marxists/Socialists, which are actually different from liberals.Mass murderes? That's insane, no one portrays them as such. Crazy, insane, delusion, idiots... sure. A large portion of them are, but not murderers.
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]I would like to see statistics that prove that mass murderers are likely white. That's said about serial killers all the time, but whites are actually underrepresented amongst serial murderers.Yusuke420
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Seems to be in order. Their idea that men are more violent because of "male privilege" and socialization and not biology (to some degree at least) seems rather spurious to me, though.[QUOTE="Yusuke420"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"]I would like to see statistics that prove that mass murderers are likely white. That's said about serial killers all the time, but whites are actually underrepresented amongst serial murderers.Rhazakna
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Seems to be in order. Their idea that men are more violent because of "male privilege" and socialization and not biology (to some degree at least) seems rather spurious to me, though.Yeah, I didn't agree with that slant either, but you could make a convincing argumemnt that it is a factor.It's quite obvious. When was the last time you heard of a black person commiting a mass murder? Rarely. Yet we had multiple whites last year. I would think that amongst street gangs, such a thing wouldn't be all that uncommon. Of course, the media doesn't usually report on those killings in general. Also, in general, going by media coverage to glean insight into a demographic trend is a terrible idea.[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]I would like to see statistics that prove that mass murderers are likely white. That's said about serial killers all the time, but whites are actually underrepresented amongst serial murderers.zenogandia
[QUOTE="zenogandia"]It's quite obvious. When was the last time you heard of a black person commiting a mass murder? Rarely. Yet we had multiple whites last year. I would think that amongst street gangs, such a thing wouldn't be all that uncommon. Of course, the media doesn't usually report on those killings in general. Also, in general, going by media coverage to glean insight into a demographic trend is a terrible idea. I can't speak for every where, but gang violence has been on the decline in southern california. It's mostly due to that black gangs have largely stopped fighting each other to deal with the mexican cartels.[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]I would like to see statistics that prove that mass murderers are likely white. That's said about serial killers all the time, but whites are actually underrepresented amongst serial murderers.Rhazakna
Seems to be in order. Their idea that men are more violent because of "male privilege" and socialization and not biology (to some degree at least) seems rather spurious to me, though.Yeah, I didn't agree with that slant either, but you could make a convincing argumemnt that it is a factor. I really don't think you can make any empirical argument that "male privilege" is a factor in these kinds of crimes. The concept is illusory on its own, let alone as an explanation for things like this. It's likely that assertion comes from nowhere, as I see no basis for it in either study.[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="Yusuke420"]
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[QUOTE="zenogandia"]It's quite obvious. When was the last time you heard of a black person commiting a mass murder? Rarely. Yet we had multiple whites last year. I would think that amongst street gangs, such a thing wouldn't be all that uncommon. Of course, the media doesn't usually report on those killings in general. Also, in general, going by media coverage to glean insight into a demographic trend is a terrible idea. But the media does. Aren't blacks potrayed as Violent, thugs, gangsters and more?[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]I would like to see statistics that prove that mass murderers are likely white. That's said about serial killers all the time, but whites are actually underrepresented amongst serial murderers.Rhazakna
There is truth to what you're saying, but it doesn't take away the fact that whites commit these mass murders on schools at a frequent rate. They also are serial killers, how many black serial killers have there been. There must be some, but not as many.
Of course not all white people are like that... obviously it's a minority... but it's there.
I would think that amongst street gangs, such a thing wouldn't be all that uncommon. Of course, the media doesn't usually report on those killings in general. Also, in general, going by media coverage to glean insight into a demographic trend is a terrible idea. But the media does. Aren't blacks potrayed as Violent, thugs, gangsters and more?[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="zenogandia"]It's quite obvious. When was the last time you heard of a black person commiting a mass murder? Rarely. Yet we had multiple whites last year.
zenogandia
There is truth to what you're saying, but it doesn't take away the fact that whites commit these mass murders on schools at a frequent rate. They also are serial killers, how many black serial killers have there been. There must be some, but not as many.
Of course not all white people are like that... obviously it's a minority... but it's there.
Actually, blacks are overrepresented amongst serial killers and whites are underrepresented. Look up the statistics, it's surprising. Blacks are also overrepresented in advertising, and in films and TV. The idea that blacks are always portrayed as violent psychos in fiction is just absurdly untrue in this day and age. They're more often portrayed as token "black friends" and sych.I just noticed that every right wing thread ends up being a race thread. Perhaps we should all hug and love each other, before this thing explodes :):oops: Who wants a manly hug?
given the TC's low level and post count i have a slight suspicion that is his intentThis thread is going to be 200 posts of disaster.
jim_shorts
[QUOTE="zenogandia"]But the media does. Aren't blacks potrayed as Violent, thugs, gangsters and more?[QUOTE="Rhazakna"] I would think that amongst street gangs, such a thing wouldn't be all that uncommon. Of course, the media doesn't usually report on those killings in general. Also, in general, going by media coverage to glean insight into a demographic trend is a terrible idea. Rhazakna
There is truth to what you're saying, but it doesn't take away the fact that whites commit these mass murders on schools at a frequent rate. They also are serial killers, how many black serial killers have there been. There must be some, but not as many.
Of course not all white people are like that... obviously it's a minority... but it's there.
Actually, blacks are overrepresented amongst serial killers and whites are underrepresented. Look up the statistics, it's surprising. Blacks are also overrepresented in advertising, and in films and TV. The idea that blacks are always portrayed as violent psychos in fiction is just absurdly untrue in this day and age. They're more often portrayed as token "black friends" and sych. Media's portrayal of serial killers in general is ridiculous. Serial Killers are not super geniuses like their are usually portrayed as. The serial killer IQs vary but generally the offenders that are unorganized possess a lesser intellect and those that use bombs as their method of murder are more intelligent. I would say it is pretty racist how "blacks" are subjugated to stereotypical roles in Television and movies although it has gotten better.[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="zenogandia"]But the media does. Aren't blacks potrayed as Violent, thugs, gangsters and more?Actually, blacks are overrepresented amongst serial killers and whites are underrepresented. Look up the statistics, it's surprising. Blacks are also overrepresented in advertising, and in films and TV. The idea that blacks are always portrayed as violent psychos in fiction is just absurdly untrue in this day and age. They're more often portrayed as token "black friends" and sych. Media's portrayal of serial killers in general is ridiculous. Serial Killers are not super geniuses like their are usually portrayed as. The serial killer IQs vary but generally the offenders that are unorganized possess a lesser intellect and those that use bombs as their method of murder are more intelligent. I would say it is pretty racist how "blacks" are subjugated to stereotypical roles in Television and movies although it has gotten better. You can argue that blacks are stereotyped on TV, but that stereotype is not one of violent gangsta psychopaths, at least not anymore. The modern stereotype is the unendingly ebullient black friend who has nothing better to do than to help his white bestie with his first world problems. Hell, Italians are stereotyped as gangsters on TV and in movies far more than blacks these days.There is truth to what you're saying, but it doesn't take away the fact that whites commit these mass murders on schools at a frequent rate. They also are serial killers, how many black serial killers have there been. There must be some, but not as many.
Of course not all white people are like that... obviously it's a minority... but it's there.
Moobopper
[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]Yeah, I didn't agree with that slant either, but you could make a convincing argumemnt that it is a factor. I really don't think you can make any empirical argument that "male privilege" is a factor in these kinds of crimes. The concept is illusory on its own, let alone as an explanation for things like this. It's likely that assertion comes from nowhere, as I see no basis for it in either study. I'm pretty sure there is evidence that patriarchal masculinity (not masculinity itself, which is completely benign) is largely centered around the rejection of sensitivity and empathy. That's because sensitivity and empathy have mostly been viewed as feminine. While I'm sure that biology also plays a role (testosterone has some influence on emotional sensitivity), I'm sure that socialization plays a significant role as well.[QUOTE="Rhazakna"] Seems to be in order. Their idea that men are more violent because of "male privilege" and socialization and not biology (to some degree at least) seems rather spurious to me, though.Rhazakna
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="Yusuke420"]Yeah, I didn't agree with that slant either, but you could make a convincing argumemnt that it is a factor.ghoklebutterI really don't think you can make any empirical argument that "male privilege" is a factor in these kinds of crimes. The concept is illusory on its own, let alone as an explanation for things like this. It's likely that assertion comes from nowhere, as I see no basis for it in either study. I'm pretty sure there is evidence that patriarchal masculinity (not masculinity itself, which is completely benign) is largely centered around the rejection of sensitivity and empathy. That's because sensitivity and empathy have mostly been viewed as feminine. While I'm sure that biology also plays a role (testosterone has some influence on emotional sensitivity), I'm sure that socialization plays a significant role as well. Of course socialization has something to do with it, all people are an expression of genes interacting with their environment. But the idea of "male privilege" (a spurious concept to say the least) being a causal factor in mass killings has no empirical basis in those studies, it's just asserted.
The media protrays gun owners ingeneral as right-wingers, but not mass murderers. A Gallup poll showed that a higher percentage of self-identified GOPers were gun owners (55-40 or thereabouts), however the percentage of left-wing gun owners was rising.
Well they do tend to be angry all the time but I've never seen them being called mass murderers before.
[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Actually it has been shown that left wingers are more angry... Hell I will admit I am ****ing mad as hell at the world.Well they do tend to be angry all the time but I've never seen them being called mass murderers before.
Moobopper
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Actually it has been shown that left wingers are more angry... Hell I will admit I am ****ing mad as hell at the world.[QUOTE="Moobopper"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]
Well they do tend to be angry all the time but I've never seen them being called mass murderers before.
jimkabrhel
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Leftist movements tend to be more open to revolutionary causes, which could be interpreted as being more angry.[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Actually it has been shown that left wingers are more angry... Hell I will admit I am ****ing mad as hell at the world.Left wingers aren't the ones protesting about other people trying to peacefully live their lives.Well they do tend to be angry all the time but I've never seen them being called mass murderers before.
Moobopper
Actually it has been shown that left wingers are more angry... Hell I will admit I am ****ing mad as hell at the world.Left wingers aren't the ones protesting about other people trying to peacefully live their lives.[QUOTE="Moobopper"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]
Well they do tend to be angry all the time but I've never seen them being called mass murderers before.
toast_burner
You are overlooking the occupy movement.
I haven't noticed it from the media but one particular trend that is troubling is how most cartoonists portray the NRA and assault weapons.
There's so much ignorance and stupidity, I think it's starting to be contagious. Generalizations are for the weak-minded and foolish, and anyone has the capacity to do evil deeds regardless of their political affiliation or beliefs. We've seen people who espoused hatred towards the "elites" as well as kill abortion doctors, b they're not representatives of anyone. They're nothing but sick and twisted individuals who took their ideology too far.
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