Why do Poor People have Children?

Pretty much the Topic.

I saw one of those sponser a child ads on TV and it astounded me that people obviously living in poverty would have children and then beg people to help support them. One even had a family of 6 children. WTF? Why would you do that? If you're so poor that you can barely provide shelter, food and water for yourself, why add voluntarily involve more people in your struggle.

Honestly, I think this is why extreme poverty exists. Because people living in places that obviously can't support them populate it with more people. Stupid.

You want to get rid of poverty in third world countries? Regulate who can have children, or at the very least, provide them with free condoms and mass campaign safe sex.

I have often though the same thing. Even in modern countries people have children when they can't afford them or properly provide for them and then the talk about their struggles as a parent and people are supposed to feel sorry for them. Pretty much they are epitomy of selfishness.

well tbh Id rather people didn't have more than 2 children , wheter they were rich or poor, just to prevent overpopulation , and the fact that there aren't enough natural resources to support everyone on the planet.

For starters, poverty stricken people often have shortened lifespans and not much money. So when they need help around the farm/house, are they going to be able to afford to pay someone to do that kind of ****? No. They rely on the kids. When you're old and dying and need constant care, can you afford to get that care from a stranger? No. That's your kids' job: to feed you and clean you while you're dying in poverty. If you can't afford to hire people to do the work, then you have kids and make them work for you.

Two: I already mentioned that poor people generally can't afford the best health care. They also often live in generally crappy areas that have a higher chance of their kids dying. And if it's expected that some of your kids will die or end up in prison, then you have more kids. Why do you think that fish lay like, hundreds of eggs? Obviously it's because most of the babies are gonna end up dead. Higher poverty correlates to higher child mortality. So poor people have more kids.

Pretty much the Topic.

I saw one of those sponser a child ads on TV and it astounded me that people obviously living in poverty would have children and then beg people to help support them. One even had a family of 6 children. WTF? Why would you do that? If you're so poor that you can barely provide shelter, food and water for yourself, why add voluntarily involve more people in your struggle.

Honestly, I think this is why extreme poverty exists. Because people living in places that obviously can't support them populate it with more people. Stupid.

You want to get rid of poverty in third world countries? Regulate who can have children, or at the very least, provide them with free condoms and mass campaign safe sex.

TheChosenTurkey

A number of 3rd world countries are catholic, the use of condoms is forbidden.

For starters, poverty stricken people often have shortened lifespans and not much money. So when they need help around the farm/house, are they going to be able to afford to pay someone to do that kind of ****? No. They rely on the kids. When you're old and dying and need constant care, can you afford to get that care from a stranger? No. That's your kids' job: to feed you and clean you while you're dying in poverty. If you can't afford to hire people to do the work, then you have kids and make them work for you.

Two: I already mentioned that poor people generally can't afford the best health care. They also often live in generally crappy areas that have a higher chance of their kids dying. And if it's expected that some of your kids will die or end up in prison, then you have more kids. Why do you think that fish lay like, hundreds of eggs? Obviously it's because most of the babies are gonna end up dead. Higher poverty correlates to higher child mortality. So poor people have more kids.

MrGeezer

So your saying that poor people have children so they can get help around the house and business. What? Why? If you're living in extreme poverty, having sex to get help around the house and probably failing business is so irresponsible. If they can't even pay for a stranger, what makes you think they can fully support a child? If you struggling in poverty, struggle by yourself.

I'm completely lost at your second statement. Could you please explain more? What I got out of it was that you're claiming that poor people are have more children so that at least one child can overcome all the death and jail that they are more likely to succumb to. Really...

Isn't this question obvious? If your poor and have a child, you get money from the government.

They have every right to have children. Yes they may be poor, but that is all the more reason why we should help them out... The fact that you even suggest that they should not have children because of their economic status horrifies me. They did not choose to be born into poverty, and not everyone is lucky enough to live in a middle-higher class family in a 1st world country. Why waste money oppressing them with 'regulations' on how many children they can or cannot have, or on condoms and marketing (which is unneccessary) when we can start supplying them with water, food, shelter etc. TC, you need to take a wider look at the world. Would you say the same thing to someone living in extreme poverty in your country? Why is it their fault if all they are doing is ensuring the survival of their family and race... Mario_Eater

Unfortunately everything costs money. While I agree that helping the poor is a good thing, it can only go so far, else we all become poor.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

For starters, poverty stricken people often have shortened lifespans and not much money. So when they need help around the farm/house, are they going to be able to afford to pay someone to do that kind of ****? No. They rely on the kids. When you're old and dying and need constant care, can you afford to get that care from a stranger? No. That's your kids' job: to feed you and clean you while you're dying in poverty. If you can't afford to hire people to do the work, then you have kids and make them work for you.

Two: I already mentioned that poor people generally can't afford the best health care. They also often live in generally crappy areas that have a higher chance of their kids dying. And if it's expected that some of your kids will die or end up in prison, then you have more kids. Why do you think that fish lay like, hundreds of eggs? Obviously it's because most of the babies are gonna end up dead. Higher poverty correlates to higher child mortality. So poor people have more kids.

TheChosenTurkey

So your saying that poor people have children so they can get help around the house and business. What? Why? If you're living in extreme poverty, having sex to get help around the house and probably failing business is so irresponsible. If they can't even pay for a stranger, what makes you think they can fully support a child? If you struggling in poverty, struggle by yourself.

I'm completely lost at your second statement. Could you please explain more? What I got out of it was that you're claiming that poor people are have more children so that at least one child can overcome all the death and jail that they are more likely to succumb to. Really...

You have to pay hired help.

Children are a "free" source of work, and they also have a built-in sense of obligation and duty. Historically, it has not been at all uncommon to put kids to work as soon as they were physically able. Rich kids have the luxury of playing and studying, while poor kids go to work before they're 10 years old, and then spend 15 hours a day working dangerous factory jobs to support the family. The mere fact that you see this as weird shows just how good things are for most of us today.

cuz sex feel gud nd dey go 'oops baby' ok

Two things: When there's nothing to do, people have sex and lots of it.

In may cultures raising a family is the most important thing to do, so it's important to have children. That's why Catholicism expounds not to use contraceptives while having sex.

Unfortunately everything costs money. While I agree that helping the poor is a good thing, it can only go so far, else we all become poor.

mysticstryk

[QUOTE="VanillaFella"]

It's just part of nature to want to pass on your genes. No way would you be able to regulate people having sex, unless you neutered them. Also instead of giving them free condoms, I think we are better off giving them food and water. Your question is pretty dumb.

junglist101

And if we go with your idea of no condoms and just provide food and water wouldn't you think that would make the monumental task of providing food and water to the world's poor more diificult by adding more mouths to feed?Condoms are cheap. How bout' food, water, condoms and of course educate them on the subject.

[QUOTE="Mario_Eater"]They have every right to have children. Yes they may be poor, but that is all the more reason why we should help them out... The fact that you even suggest that they should not have children because of their economic status horrifies me. They did not choose to be born into poverty, and not everyone is lucky enough to live in a middle-higher class family in a 1st world country. Why waste money oppressing them with 'regulations' on how many children they can or cannot have, or on condoms and marketing (which is unneccessary) when we can start supplying them with water, food, shelter etc. TC, you need to take a wider look at the world. Would you say the same thing to someone living in extreme poverty in your country? Why is it their fault if all they are doing is ensuring the survival of their family and race... Mafiree

[QUOTE="Mafiree"][QUOTE="Mario_Eater"]They have every right to have children. Yes they may be poor, but that is all the more reason why we should help them out... The fact that you even suggest that they should not have children because of their economic status horrifies me. They did not choose to be born into poverty, and not everyone is lucky enough to live in a middle-higher class family in a 1st world country. Why waste money oppressing them with 'regulations' on how many children they can or cannot have, or on condoms and marketing (which is unneccessary) when we can start supplying them with water, food, shelter etc. TC, you need to take a wider look at the world. Would you say the same thing to someone living in extreme poverty in your country? Why is it their fault if all they are doing is ensuring the survival of their family and race... Mario_Eater

[QUOTE="Mafiree"][QUOTE="Mario_Eater"]They have every right to have children. Yes they may be poor, but that is all the more reason why we should help them out... The fact that you even suggest that they should not have children because of their economic status horrifies me. They did not choose to be born into poverty, and not everyone is lucky enough to live in a middle-higher class family in a 1st world country. Why waste money oppressing them with 'regulations' on how many children they can or cannot have, or on condoms and marketing (which is unneccessary) when we can start supplying them with water, food, shelter etc. TC, you need to take a wider look at the world. Would you say the same thing to someone living in extreme poverty in your country? Why is it their fault if all they are doing is ensuring the survival of their family and race... Mario_Eater

It's just part of nature to want to pass on your genes. No way would you be able to regulate people having sex, unless you neutered them. Also instead of giving them free condoms, I think we are better off giving them food and water. Your question is pretty dumb.Darkman2007

You have to pay hired help. Children are a "free" source of work, and they also have a built-in sense of obligation and duty. Historically, it has not been at all uncommon to put kids to work as soon as they were physically able. Rich kids have the luxury of playing and studying, while poor kids go to work before they're 10 years old, and then spend 15 hours a day working dangerous factory jobs to support the family. The mere fact that you see this as weird shows just how good things are for most of us today. MrGeezer

Which brings me to the conclusion that humans are irresponsible.

If I had my way everyone below the poverty line would be castrated.

Because condoms can break when you least expect it.JasonDarksavior

[QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"]Because condoms can break when you least expect it.Rikusaki

Whenever I see someone that is already struggling but has a football team of kids, I think of some of those things. And I can't stand that crap excuse "well a man/woman has needs". If you already can't afford kids, why do so?

Perhaps it's having children that makes you poor ;)

Some countries has no social welfare system, the only way to get looked after as you get old are your own children, if poor people had no kids they would starve when they could no longer work.

Lack of education and money for contraceptives?

Also, over here people have children just for the sake of it becausethey get a significant amount of money from the government when it is born. A lot of people just blow the money on luxuries and NOT on the baby.

Poor people always suffer ... first from Poverty and now OT deciding why poor peoples have children . Leave poor peoples alone , let them live any they wish . They are human beings like us and deserve to have children .

TBH we well to do guys know nothing about a poor guys pain .

If you care about poor people so much , donate money to them than debating about them .

It might be because that they're not educated enough. I read an article that showed citizens of developed countries who were educated, had less children but childhood death rates were low. While in impoverished nations they have a high death and birth rate.

they'll get the children to work for the family.

I dont mind helping the poor. But i'm not happy paying for some slut's benefits who had children JUST for the benefits. The epitomy of scum. I feel sorry for the kids brought up into that.

The question shouldn't be why they have children. Everyone has a right to have children. The question should be why do they have 5 to 6 children?

In less developed countries, children are a source of labor to help a family. However in a developed country in the USA it gets complicated. A lot of poor/uneducated people who don't go beyond high school have kids because it's the logical next step in life. It's how they were raised. You are born, go to school, have a family, then die. That's how we are programmed since we are kids.

I don't think it's about government incentives to have kids. I won't doubt that people abuse that system, but it's not the real reason why working class people have kids. It's all culture. People don't use their best judgement either. They don't realize it costs far more than people can afford to raise a kid. Often these kids are born into families where education isn't valued. It's really just a bad cycle.

We can't stop people from having kids unless we become like China and that means forced abortions after 1 kid (an extremely horrible practice).

I noticed that from my graduating class, those who didn't go to school after high school already have kids. These are the same people who get married right out of high school and divorced a few years later. It's all bad judgement. Our culture keeps telling them to get married and have kids. That's happiness. In all reality, those who go to school often see a different picture than what's on TV. They realize happiness is whatever you want it to be. They believe in stability and the ability to support a real family. This is why none of my college friends who have graduated have kids and are not married yet.

In less developed countries, children are a source of labor to help a family. However in a developed country in the USA it gets complicated. A lot of poor/uneducated people who don't go beyond high school have kids because it's the logical next step in life. It's how they were raised. You are born, go to school, have a family, then die. That's how we are programmed since we are kids.

I don't think it's about government incentives to have kids. I won't doubt that people abuse that system, but it's not the real reason why working class people have kids. It's all culture. People don't use their best judgement either. They don't realize it costs far more than people can afford to raise a kid. Often these kids are born into families where education isn't valued. It's really just a bad cycle.

We can't stop people from having kids unless we become like China and that means forced abortions after 1 kid (an extremely horrible practice).

I noticed that from my graduating class, those who didn't go to school after high school already have kids. These are the same people who get married right out of high school and divorced a few years later. It's all bad judgement. Our culture keeps telling them to get married and have kids. That's happiness. In all reality, those who go to school often see a different picture than what's on TV. They realize happiness is whatever you want it to be. They believe in stability and the ability to support a real family. This is why none of my college friends who have graduated have kids and are not married yet.

Wasdie