Who should the USA/UK invade, Saudi Arabia and/or Iran?

Neither. Unless you want more terrorists... Going to war in the middle east seems pretty good for that though.

How about invading US inner cities and getting rid of violent gangs? They call Chicago Chi-Raq these days.

Colonize Saudi Arabia and control its oil wells. Nothing of importance would be lost.

Get to sell more weapons and keep the oil of these asshats.

Yep, I take no pride calling my city Chi-Raq! It's killing tourism and people are moving away from the city.

I vote for North Korea.

I would not call myself a progressive. I am an independent (with sympathy's towards social democracy) who does not identify with any major party. I don't agree with libertarianism as definied by Ayn Rand and the Austrian School of economics because it is impractical, counterproductive and inefficient.

And why are you always calling me stupid and/or evil? do you just hate everyone who is not a hardcore libertarian? I have had both school and work experience in both the public and private sector, and the private sector has its share of flaws and shortcomings just like the public sector.

As for "tolerance," I have no use for it. Most people who preach it sure as hell don't practice it.

@samanthademeste: Hardcore libertarians are delusional simplistic thinkers. Which is exactly what I think about you. You deserve my responses because you troll ideas or concepts.that you clearly have a superficial understanding of at best. This thread is no different. Why you would think anyone should take anything you say seriously is beyond me, as your average 10 yr old can form more cogent arguments.

Read your OP out loud and ask yourself whether it is worth responding too in anything other than a flippant manner. And pls at least attempt to educate yourself on the whole of the issues. Hezbollah, Party of God. On the side of angels, I am sure.

I am not a fan of Iran, if that is what you are implying. I am just saying they are fighting the terrorists (i.e:the Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIS etc.) and their are people in the USA who want to invade Iran. Wouldn't that only help ISIS? Unless they want to "kill two birds with one stone." as the expression goes.

And yes, education and knowledge is very important. Which is why I take websites such as Wikipedia with an extreme grain of salt. Same thing for YouTube.

P.S: No I do not hate you. I am just trying to have a discussion about the War on Terror.

@samanthademeste: If you want to be taken seriously I suggest you don't start with a title and poll that is inflammatory and absurd. Also I suggest you avoid trite media slogans such as 'the war on terror'. For Iran you could acknowledge that they arm, support and train their terrorists to fight the other guys terrorists and fight our allies. For Saudi Arabia you could acknowledge that there is less evidence of direct support for Sunni terrorist groups, but that their strain of Islam seems closely related to the most virulent terror groups. You could then list 2-4 points per nation and pose a question like: which is worse? That's how you start a legit discussion.

None. Let them take each other out.

@SOedipus: "Let them take each other out."

Whats your beef with the US/UK?

No beef with either of those countries. I was referring to Saudi Arabia and Iran.

Our intervention in the Middle East has clearly worked so well... Oh wait no it hasn't, how about ending the wars.

@SOedipus: "I was referring to Saudi Arabia and Iran."

You have beef with them?

No beef with them either, otherwise I would have voted "both". Granted, I am not a fan of Saudi Arabia nor Iran, but no beef. And I love beef.

@SOedipus:

I guess I took this

"Let them take each other out."

As if you don't care if they blow each other up.

Are you going to be there on the frontlines with the army? Handling systems on the aircraft carrier? Dropping bombs in a cockpit?

If you are, then by all means I respect your tennacity to get into action.

If you won't be, then tell me about the the proposals you and the committee you're leading will do to take care of troops that'll return, because I hear alot about the benefits for returning wounded/maimed and psychologically being pretty inadequate.

Or are you a contractor that'll be part of the possible revitalisation of the invaded country's infrastructure? If so what are the lessons you think could be learned from procedures that have been made with the last few invasions? I'm to understand the project of rebuilding those regions didn't turn out quite like rebuilding Europe.

Wait, no, maybe you're part of the CIA? What's the word on groups that could form out of the destruction and war? What is currently the group or figure you've been working with to help ease into power with the transition of a new government, or has the agency come to the conclusion the current government could possibly still exist as is? Or is that kind of advisory made by another person or some cabinet member? I'm sorry I'm ignorant on alot of things.

I don't know who you are.

I'm a Canadian with no family members serving the US army or Canadian armed forces (which could possibly be part of operations) and I myself am just a student learning a degree in Applied Computer Science.

I voted for neither as I can't imagine how I should have a say on pushing / orchestrating an event full of matters that wouldn't be directly as a result of my contribution in a deadly or highly expensive scenerio. A complicated field I have no experience in nor being even the nationality of the people that would be seeing the endevor through (on ether end).

Aka I would rather not send people to die, to kill, to rebuild and be what possibly contributes to the forming of more groups bent on "continuing" the war after a standing army is routed. Especially considering how detached I'd be in each circumstance.

(Sorry for spelling errors)

Hillary and Trump are both interventionists. But otherwise your right.

America is helping AQ in Syria and Yemen, Iraq the war on terror is the biggest fraud. Invading Iran would be Iraq 2.0. You do realize the Saudis are the biggest terror exporters right? i fail to see Iran as a threat as they are fighting ISIS in Syria.

None. But destroy ISIS.

ISIS funds come from KSA.

Put pressure on Saudi Arabia, like what Europe has already done.

As for Iran, just let the youth win the culture wars, which will probably happen sooner or later. No need to get into more unneeded conflicts.

Neither.
Spend US money on the US and fix those problems.

This thread has very little to discuss, especially given the absurdity of the topic, which comes way out of left field. I would have let it be, but it's proven its value by attracting violent comments, personally directed jabs and one-liners.

So no. It's locked.