What's your favorite breed of dog???

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#51 Posted by MetalDogGear (825 posts) -
[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="MetalDogGear"][QUOTE="worlock77"] Then whence came God?

Lol, time is a product of God. And products cannot exist before their creators. Therefore time did not exist before God Therefore God did not have a beginning Can we please get some intelligent people in here Jesus I feel like I'm at a Mississippi high school reunion.

If something cannot come from nothing then everything then God cannot have come from nothing. So where did God come from?

It's ok. It was hard for me to understand at first. The human brain simply cannot fathom how God can have existed at every moment, for the entire history of being. It's hard to really get that into your head. It's easier as a child because as an Adult you're too callous and cold and filled with opinions and it slows the process down
#52 Posted by worlock77 (22547 posts) -
[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="MetalDogGear"][QUOTE="worlock77"] Then whence came God?

Lol, time is a product of God. And products cannot exist before their creators. Therefore time did not exist before God Therefore God did not have a beginning Can we please get some intelligent people in here Jesus I feel like I'm at a Mississippi high school reunion.

If something cannot come from nothing then everything then God cannot have come from nothing. So where did God come from?

F*ck, that's some mangled wording. Time to get my ass in bed I think.
#53 Posted by GrayF0X786 (4092 posts) -

[QUOTE="MetalDogGear"][QUOTE="worlock77"] Then whence came God?worlock77
Lol, time is a product of God. And products cannot exist before their creators. Therefore time did not exist before God Therefore God did not have a beginning Can we please get some intelligent people in here Jesus I feel like I'm at a Mississippi high school reunion.

If something cannot come from nothing then everything then God cannot have come from nothing. So where did God come from?

if you're asking such a question then you deny everything around you, its like if i had a gun and i wanted to shoot you, but then i would have to get permission from who ever is higher then me in authority, then he would have to ask permission from his higher ups, and it keeps on going, will that bullet ever be shot? how can one be so blind and foolish to the creation around him, the sun, the moon, the earth all playing its role, its pathetic, ignorant and sad to block out your own heart to this.

#54 Posted by wis3boi (32070 posts) -

[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="MetalDogGear"] Lol, time is a product of God. And products cannot exist before their creators. Therefore time did not exist before God Therefore God did not have a beginning Can we please get some intelligent people in here Jesus I feel like I'm at a Mississippi high school reunion.worlock77
If something cannot come from nothing then everything then God cannot have come from nothing. So where did God come from?

F*ck, that's some mangled wording. Time to get my ass in bed I think.

It's not you, it's his brain damage

#55 Posted by worlock77 (22547 posts) -
[QUOTE="MetalDogGear"][QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="MetalDogGear"] Lol, time is a product of God. And products cannot exist before their creators. Therefore time did not exist before God Therefore God did not have a beginning Can we please get some intelligent people in here Jesus I feel like I'm at a Mississippi high school reunion.

If something cannot come from nothing then everything then God cannot have come from nothing. So where did God come from?

It's ok. It was hard for me to understand at first. The human brain simply cannot fathom how God can have existed at every moment, for the entire history of being. It's hard to really get that into your head. It's easier as a child because as an Adult you're too callous and cold and filled with opinions and it slows the process down

No, if something cannot have come from nothing then God had to have a begging as well.
#56 Posted by Guybrush_3 (8308 posts) -

Relevant

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_singularity

but I'm sure this will go right over people's heads.

#57 Posted by worlock77 (22547 posts) -

[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="MetalDogGear"] Lol, time is a product of God. And products cannot exist before their creators. Therefore time did not exist before God Therefore God did not have a beginning Can we please get some intelligent people in here Jesus I feel like I'm at a Mississippi high school reunion.GrayF0X786

If something cannot come from nothing then everything then God cannot have come from nothing. So where did God come from?

if you're asking such a question then you deny everything around you, its like if i had a gun and i wanted to shoot you, but then i would have to get permission from who ever is higher then me in authority, then he would have to ask permission from his higher ups, and it keeps on going, will that bullet ever be shot? how can one be so blind and foolish to the creation around him, the sun, the moon, the earth all playing its role, its pathetic, ignorant and sad to block out your own heart to this.

F*cking hell, that's even more nonsensical than the usual religious arguments.
#58 Posted by Planeforger (16392 posts) -

Lol, time is a product of God. And products cannot exist before their creators. Therefore time did not exist before God Therefore God did not have a beginning Can we please get some intelligent people in here Jesus I feel like I'm at a Mississippi high school reunion.MetalDogGear

Actually, time is the product of a dispute between two hypkerkinetic sibling gods - Sally and Montgomery.
Their father - a fertility god known only as Chilly Septembers - created time in order to punish them more effectively (because it turned out that separating them for a few minutes was completely pointless unless minutes actually existed).

Oh, and this only happened 30 years ago, but he created a heck of a lot of time and just dumped it on us all at once.

See? Inventing plausible explanations is easy when you don't have to prove anything.
Also, the fun fact is that my explanation is every bit as likely to be true as yours is!

#59 Posted by GrayF0X786 (4092 posts) -

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"] If something cannot come from nothing then everything then God cannot have come from nothing. So where did God come from?worlock77

if you're asking such a question then you deny everything around you, its like if i had a gun and i wanted to shoot you, but then i would have to get permission from who ever is higher then me in authority, then he would have to ask permission from his higher ups, and it keeps on going, will that bullet ever be shot? how can one be so blind and foolish to the creation around him, the sun, the moon, the earth all playing its role, its pathetic, ignorant and sad to block out your own heart to this.

F*cking hell, that's even more nonsensical than the usual religious arguments.

truth fvcking hurts ha?

#60 Posted by MannyDelgado (1187 posts) -

[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="MetalDogGear"] Lol, time is a product of God. And products cannot exist before their creators. Therefore time did not exist before God Therefore God did not have a beginning Can we please get some intelligent people in here Jesus I feel like I'm at a Mississippi high school reunion.GrayF0X786

If something cannot come from nothing then everything then God cannot have come from nothing. So where did God come from?

if you're asking such a question then you deny everything around you, its like if i had a gun and i wanted to shoot you, but then i would have to get permission from who ever is higher then me in authority, then he would have to ask permission from his higher ups, and it keeps on going, will that bullet ever be shot? how can one be so blind and foolish to the creation around him, the sun, the moon, the earth all playing its role, its pathetic, ignorant and sad to block out your own heart to this.

this is maybe the funniest argument i've ever read for god's existence
#61 Posted by Ace6301 (21389 posts) -

[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="MetalDogGear"] Lol, time is a product of God. And products cannot exist before their creators. Therefore time did not exist before God Therefore God did not have a beginning Can we please get some intelligent people in here Jesus I feel like I'm at a Mississippi high school reunion.GrayF0X786

If something cannot come from nothing then everything then God cannot have come from nothing. So where did God come from?

if you're asking such a question then you deny everything around you, its like if i had a gun and i wanted to shoot you, but then i would have to get permission from who ever is higher then me in authority, then he would have to ask permission from his higher ups, and it keeps on going, will that bullet ever be shot? how can one be so blind and foolish to the creation around him, the sun, the moon, the earth all playing its role, its pathetic, ignorant and sad to block out your own heart to this.

The way the universe works is absolutely beautiful and fascinating. I think explaining it with "Well God did it for us" cheapens it so such a degree that it's no longer anything other than a sham created by an extremely limited "almighty" creator whose creations are more inventive than himself. Because it's so obvious that mans creativity out stretches that of an almighty being we must either decide that God has lied to us or that we in fact created God.
#62 Posted by Guybrush_3 (8308 posts) -

[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] if you're asking such a question then you deny everything around you, its like if i had a gun and i wanted to shoot you, but then i would have to get permission from who ever is higher then me in authority, then he would have to ask permission from his higher ups, and it keeps on going, will that bullet ever be shot? how can one be so blind and foolish to the creation around him, the sun, the moon, the earth all playing its role, its pathetic, ignorant and sad to block out your own heart to this.

GrayF0X786

F*cking hell, that's even more nonsensical than the usual religious arguments.

truth fvcking hurts ha?

You do a dismal job of presenting your arguments.

#63 Posted by Yusuke420 (2770 posts) -

[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="MetalDogGear"] Lol, time is a product of God. And products cannot exist before their creators. Therefore time did not exist before God Therefore God did not have a beginning Can we please get some intelligent people in here Jesus I feel like I'm at a Mississippi high school reunion.GrayF0X786

If something cannot come from nothing then everything then God cannot have come from nothing. So where did God come from?

if you're asking such a question then you deny everything around you, its like if i had a gun and i wanted to shoot you, but then i would have to get permission from who ever is higher then me in authority, then he would have to ask permission from his higher ups, and it keeps on going, will that bullet ever be shot? how can one be so blind and foolish to the creation around him, the sun, the moon, the earth all playing its role, its pathetic, ignorant and sad to block out your own heart to this.

So because the Sun and Moon exist it means god? Really????

#64 Posted by br0kenrabbit (13595 posts) -

And products cannot exist before their creators. MetalDogGear

Not true.

Here comes some more quantum physics. :D

At the quantum level, time ceases to mean anything. Events can finish before they even start! And since time means nothing at this level, space (distance) doesn't, either (since space and time are the same thing).

Quantum particles can pass through matter that it can't pass through. They can associate themselves with another particle of any given distance (even billions of trillions of light years) and exchange spin information with each other instantly. At this level, there is no here or there, then and now, it's all just soup: quantum foam.

Imagine ripples spreading out over a pond before you throw the rock in. That's quantum physics.

#65 Posted by Yusuke420 (2770 posts) -

[QUOTE="MetalDogGear"]And products cannot exist before their creators. br0kenrabbit

Not true.

Here comes some more quantum physics. :D

At the quantum level, time ceases to mean anything. Events can finish before they even start! And since time means nothing at this level, space (distance) doesn't, either (since space and time are the same thing).

Quantum particles can pass through matter that it can't pass through. They can associate themselves with another particle of any given distance (even billions of trillions of light years) and exchange spin information with each other instantly. At this level, there is no here or there, then and now, it's all just soup: quantum foam.

Imagine ripples spreading out over a pond before you throw the rock in. That's quantum physics.

Mindblown.JPEG :D

#66 Posted by Guybrush_3 (8308 posts) -

Mine is HuskyMetalDogGear

Why are you such a racist?

#67 Posted by sukraj (24202 posts) -

German Sherpherd

#68 Posted by SonyNintendoFan (527 posts) -
Lmao, did a mod change it?
#69 Posted by PresidentLogan (250 posts) -

Patterdale Terrier

#70 Posted by Matthew-first (3012 posts) -

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="MetalDogGear"]Science will never be able to prove why something comes from nothing. Which means, according to this, the Atheist's arguments get crushed under their own gravity. Simply put: if nothing can come nothing, then there had to be something And that something had to create the universe And so it had to be a sentient being And if it was sentient, it was God. Science tells us that humanity is nothing but a heartless machine that only cares about its own survival. And so there has to be a God to edify this situation.Yusuke420

Something comes from nothing all the time, all around you. Particles and anti-particles are popping into and out of existence all the time (they completely annihilate each other). We don't need to go back to the big bang for the mystery of 'something from nothing'.

Besides, if the total sum energy of the universe is 0, as it seems, then there really is nothing here, anyway.

That's a mind f*ck lol...



My favourite breed of dog is... WAIT... what's that below?!

MIGHTY RELIGION ARGUMENTS! TA DA DAAAAAH!!!! XD Hahahahah :D

It's fun how this topic didn't even get one proper response at first... just straight to religion... heh....

(btw. lol... Amstaff :) )
http://images.crestock.com/1490000-1499999/1496039-xs.jpg

#71 Posted by Matthew-first (3012 posts) -

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="MetalDogGear"]And products cannot exist before their creators. Yusuke420

Not true.

Here comes some more quantum physics. :D

At the quantum level, time ceases to mean anything. Events can finish before they even start! And since time means nothing at this level, space (distance) doesn't, either (since space and time are the same thing).

Quantum particles can pass through matter that it can't pass through. They can associate themselves with another particle of any given distance (even billions of trillions of light years) and exchange spin information with each other instantly. At this level, there is no here or there, then and now, it's all just soup: quantum foam.

Imagine ripples spreading out over a pond before you throw the rock in. That's quantum physics.

Mindblown.JPEG :D



http://thegamefanatics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Quantum_Conundrum_Game_Logo_HD_Wallpaper.jpg

#72 Posted by Los9090 (7288 posts) -

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Something comes from nothing all the time, all around you. Particles and anti-particles are popping into and out of existence all the time (they completely annihilate each other). We don't need to go back to the big bang for the mystery of 'something from nothing'.

Besides, if the total sum energy of the universe is 0, as it seems, then there really is nothing here, anyway.

Matthew-first

That's a mind f*ck lol...



My favourite breed of dog is... WAIT... what's that below?!

MIGHTY RELIGION ARGUMENTS! TA DA DAAAAAH!!!! XD Hahahahah :D

It's fun how this topic didn't even get one proper response at first... just straight to religion... heh....

(btw. lol... Amstaff :) )
http://images.crestock.com/1490000-1499999/1496039-xs.jpg

That tends to happen, generally speaking. Original topic not getting followed.
#73 Posted by pariah3 (974 posts) -

I'm a Deist. Don't really care about the details but do believe a supreme being had to spark the universe. KC_Hokie

I find it hard to believe that the universe was designed just for us, given just how really big the universe is. The universe is really very big and apparently sentient life is very rare. This can be demostrated by the fact that given how vast we know the universe is, so far we haven't found even one Earth-like planet that contains beings just that like humans. This just shows how rare life in the universe really is.

If the universe really "liked" life then we would have found many Earth-like planets with sentient beings just like us but so far we just haven't found a second Earth with sentient, human-like beings on it.

#74 Posted by Floridaman46 (259 posts) -

The Doberman Pincher. Some people on here fogot what the Question was.

#75 Posted by AfroPirate (675 posts) -

I like corgis

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#76 Posted by sandlot76 (53267 posts) -

I am anti-anklebiters. :| I like the non-shedding, non-scary ones

#77 Posted by worlock77 (22547 posts) -
[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]That's a mind f*ck lol...

Los9090



My favourite breed of dog is... WAIT... what's that below?!

MIGHTY RELIGION ARGUMENTS! TA DA DAAAAAH!!!! XD Hahahahah :D

It's fun how this topic didn't even get one proper response at first... just straight to religion... heh....

(btw. lol... Amstaff :) )
http://images.crestock.com/1490000-1499999/1496039-xs.jpg

That tends to happen, generally speaking. Original topic not getting followed.

The original topic was being followed just fine, then the TC, attempting to be clever I suppose, edited his posts. Look through the thread and you'll see folks quoting the TC's original post.
#79 Posted by nooblet69 (5162 posts) -

German shepherd and Siberian Huskies for big dogs. Scottish Terriers and Welsh Corgi for smaller dogs.

#80 Posted by JohnF111 (14125 posts) -
Ok on topic... I like Staffordshire Terriers.. They're just the friendliest dogs I've ever known.
#81 Posted by psymon100 (6835 posts) -

The original topic was being followed just fine, then the TC, attempting to be clever I suppose, edited his posts. Look through the thread and you'll see folks quoting the TC's original post.worlock77

Worlock is right. I'm confident that this was the original topic:

Atheists still can't prove how something can come from nothingMetalDogGear

And the original body text of the OP:

Science will never be able to prove why something comes from nothing. Which means, according to this, the Atheist's arguments get crushed under their own gravity. Simply put: if nothing can come nothing, then there had to be something And that something had to create the universe And so it had to be a sentient being And if it was sentient, it was God. Science tells us that humanity is nothing but a heartless machine that only cares about its own survival. And so there has to be a God to edify this situation.MetalDogGear

This may seem inflammatory but if I were guessing the reason for the change in topic, my first guess would be cowardice.

#82 Posted by br0kenrabbit (13595 posts) -

This may seem inflammatory but if I were guessing the reason for the change in topic, my first guess would be cowardice.

psymon100

Yeah, he pretty much got boxed into a corner. Off the ropes and OMG IT'S A HALF NELSON SUPLEX! Oh wait, that's not boxing. But this ain't a thread about puppies, either.

#83 Posted by psymon100 (6835 posts) -

[QUOTE="psymon100"]

This may seem inflammatory but if I were guessing the reason for the change in topic, my first guess would be cowardice.

br0kenrabbit

Yeah, he pretty much got boxed into a corner. Off the ropes and OMG IT'S A HALF NELSON SUPLEX! Oh wait, that's not boxing. But this ain't a thread about puppies, either.

Yes.

Though changing this into a thread about dog breeds is somewhat ironic. Aren't the different breeds of dog available today a result of artificial selection? Sort of a 'method' of evolution? In 30000BC I doubt that the phenotype of 'Pug' existed etc.

#84 Posted by br0kenrabbit (13595 posts) -

Yes.

Though changing this into a thread about dog breeds is somewhat ironic. Aren't the different breeds of dog available today a result of artificial selection? Sort of a 'method' of evolution? In 30000BC I doubt that the phenotype of 'Pug' existed etc.

psymon100

Liberal lies and propaganda. Dogs don't come from wolves and my grandpappy was no monkey. Maybe yours was.

#85 Posted by LoG-Sacrament (20397 posts) -
either the saint bernard or the saint usuge spaniel.
#86 Posted by psymon100 (6835 posts) -

[QUOTE="psymon100"]

Yes.

Though changing this into a thread about dog breeds is somewhat ironic. Aren't the different breeds of dog available today a result of artificial selection? Sort of a 'method' of evolution? In 30000BC I doubt that the phenotype of 'Pug' existed etc.

br0kenrabbit

Liberal lies and propaganda. Dogs don't come from wolves and my grandpappy was no monkey. Maybe yours was.

That was a pretty convincing impression.

#87 Posted by br0kenrabbit (13595 posts) -

That was a pretty convincing impression.

psymon100

I live in the Bible Belt.

:(

#88 Posted by sexyweapons (5302 posts) -

German Shepherd.

#89 Posted by comp_atkins (32176 posts) -
husky probably, had one when i was little and he was great. goldens are great dogs too. have one now.
#90 Posted by Pirate700 (46465 posts) -

Huskies. I also like those dogs that look like little Ewoks (don't know the name).

#91 Posted by Pittfan666 (8543 posts) -
Whatever breed is the biggest and the most vicious.
#92 Posted by genfactor (1462 posts) -
German shepard or Collie.
#94 Posted by Angie7F (1175 posts) -

shihtzu. they have a great personality. Though I prefer shihtzu mixes so that they have a longer snout.

#95 Posted by worlock77 (22547 posts) -

Can we please get back to the original topic?

#96 Posted by Fightingfan (38011 posts) -
WTF no1 is giving their breed of dog?
#97 Posted by comp_atkins (32176 posts) -

Huskies. I also like those dogs that look like little Ewoks (don't know the name).

Pirate700

chow chow?

chow_chow_dog.jpg

#98 Posted by br0kenrabbit (13595 posts) -

lol@thisthread.com

#99 Posted by The_Gaming_Baby (6343 posts) -

Bulldog. There is just something about their little mushy faces that I can't not love

#100 Posted by TheFlush (5700 posts) -

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Huskies. I also like those dogs that look like little Ewoks (don't know the name).

comp_atkins

chow chow?

chow_chow_dog.jpg

They look so fluffy and cute, but in general they are really unfriendly.