Homo sapiens sapiens is an evolutionary branch of Homo erectus. Our destiny has been fulfilled as we have the power to counteract and direct evolutionary processes.
Homo sapiens sapiens is an evolutionary branch of Homo erectus. Our destiny has been fulfilled as we have the power to counteract and direct evolutionary processes.Zeviander
[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Homo sapiens sapiens is an evolutionary branch of Homo erectus. Our destiny has been fulfilled as we have the power to counteract and direct evolutionary processes.dragonfly110
Evolution's just a theory dude.
So is gravity. Damn, I guess it's nothing but God's will holding me on to the earth.
[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Homo sapiens sapiens is an evolutionary branch of Homo erectus. Our destiny has been fulfilled as we have the power to counteract and direct evolutionary processes.charizard1605
Evolution's just a theory dude.
So is gravity. Damn, I guess it's nothing but God's will holding me on to the earth.
So is gravity. Damn, I guess it's nothing but God's will holding me on to the earth.
I'm glad you've seen the light my brother.
I am a creature of the night. I am the harbinger of knowledge. I am the hero you all deserve, but not the one you need right now. So you will hunt me, because I can take it. Because I'm not just a hero. I'm a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight.
[QUOTE="charizard1605"] So is gravity. Damn, I guess it's nothing but God's will holding me on to the earth.charizard1605
I'm glad you've seen the light my brother.
I am a creature of the night. I am the harbinger of knowledge. I am the hero you all deserve, but not the one you need right now. So you will hunt me, because I can take it. Because I'm not just a hero. I'm a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight.
Get that weak crap away from me...You've merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was a man and by then it was only blinding!
I am a creature of the night. I am the harbinger of knowledge. I am the hero you all deserve, but not the one you need right now. So you will hunt me, because I can take it. Because I'm not just a hero. I'm a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight.
Get that weak crap away from me...You've merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was a man and by then it was only blinding!
Are you afraid? Now is not the time for fear... that comes later.
Yep. Then I realized that nearly all of the species which have ever existed are long-extinct. Yet, life on Earth seems to be doing just fine. And I don't give a **** about all of the species which met with extinction, even though such extinctions paved the way for the existence of our own species. The bottom line is that everything dies, and rarely do the survivors give a flying **** about those who either paved the way for progress. That's how life works. You aren't special. Neither is the dodo bird, neither is the velociraptor, neither is your mother or my daughter or that other dude's wife. Everything dies, and over a long enough time frame becomes becomes either forgotten and/or completely irrelevant. That's just as true for humanity as it is for the coral reefs and the brontosaurus.
[QUOTE="charizard1605"] I am a creature of the night. I am the harbinger of knowledge. I am the hero you all deserve, but not the one you need right now. So you will hunt me, because I can take it. Because I'm not just a hero. I'm a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight.charizard1605
Get that weak crap away from me...You've merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was a man and by then it was only blinding!
Are you afraid? Now is not the time for fear... that comes later.
Get that weak crap away from me...You've merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was a man and by then it was only blinding!
dragonfly110
Are you afraid? Now is not the time for fear... that comes later.
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]This great city... it will endure.charizard1605
We both know that I now have to kill you. You'll just have to imagine the fire!
You've made a serious mistake.
I see a beautiful city and a brilliant people rising from this abyss. I see the lives for which I lay down my life, peaceful, useful, prosperous and happy. I see that I hold a sanctuary in their hearts, and in the hearts of their descendants, generations hence. It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to, than I have ever known.
We both know that I now have to kill you. You'll just have to imagine the fire!
dragonfly110
You've made a serious mistake.
I see a beautiful city and a brilliant people rising from this abyss. I see the lives for which I lay down my life, peaceful, useful, prosperous and happy. I see that I hold a sanctuary in their hearts, and in the hearts of their descendants, generations hence. It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to, than I have ever known.
A hero can be anyone. Even a man doing something as simple and reassuring as putting a coat around a young boy's shoulders, to let him know the world hadn't ended.
[QUOTE="charizard1605"] You've made a serious mistake.charizard1605
I see a beautiful city and a brilliant people rising from this abyss. I see the lives for which I lay down my life, peaceful, useful, prosperous and happy. I see that I hold a sanctuary in their hearts, and in the hearts of their descendants, generations hence. It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to, than I have ever known.
A hero can be anyone. Even a man doing something as simple and reassuring as putting a coat around a young boy's shoulders, to let him know the world hadn't ended.
I see a beautiful city and a brilliant people rising from this abyss. I see the lives for which I lay down my life, peaceful, useful, prosperous and happy. I see that I hold a sanctuary in their hearts, and in the hearts of their descendants, generations hence. It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to, than I have ever known.
dragonfly110
A hero can be anyone. Even a man doing something as simple and reassuring as putting a coat around a young boy's shoulders, to let him know the world hadn't ended.
Homo sapiens sapiens is an evolutionary branch of Homo erectus. Our destiny has been fulfilled as we have the power to counteract and direct evolutionary processes.Zeviander
No one really knows the origins of man but there is a whole lot of speculations about it. Or destiny will be a harder one to figure out because collectively most of the populace is at odds with each other. When we finally decide to act like a unit (like other species) we will easily have a prosperous future. With that said, If I could take a glimpse into the future right now, It would probably have no humans around,.... as they would have rendered themselves extinct through wars, poverty, and man made deseases. As of now I'm not really sure we deserve a future.
I think we may have been created for serving other's purposes,and higher lifeforms meddled with our DNA code made us what we are today..(cut from the link we had with the higher planes).
Or something else.
Our destiny is to perish.
Other than that,to overcome all the obstacles and reach enlightment and a divine form of being.
No. I don't give a flying turd how we got here (I have my own theory and I'll stick to it anyways...) since no matter what the answer is, it will not change who and what I am nor do I care about destiny considering its "presence" has been rather vague and inconsistent.....
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I believe in evolution yet believe there had to have been some spark from a supreme being. The odds of humans just existing are far too low. Rhazakna
The odds of any supreme being existing would then logically be far lower than the odds of humans existing.Disagree. Intelligent life should be everywhere mathematically. It's not (at least so far).
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I believe in evolution yet believe there had to have been some spark from a supreme being. The odds of humans just existing are far too low. KC_Hokie
The odds of any supreme being existing would then logically be far lower than the odds of humans existing.Disagree. Intelligent life should be everywhere mathematically. It's not (at least so far). That's a complete non-sequitor. You said the odds of humans existing is far too low. Humans are a complex species that has evolved over millions of years to suit our environment. Humans are material, consistent with the laws of physics, laws of logic and biology. A supreme being is an infinitely more complex entity, that is immaterial, outside of logic and biology doesn't apply to it. Which is less likely to exist? An evolved species of ape, or a cosmic supreme being that exists outside reality?
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"] The odds of any supreme being existing would then logically be far lower than the odds of humans existing.Rhazakna
Disagree. Intelligent life should be everywhere mathematically. It's not (at least so far). That's a complete non-sequitor. You said the odds of humans existing is far too low. Humans are a complex species that has evolved over millions of years to suit our environment. Humans are material, consistent with the laws of physics, laws of logic and biology. A supreme being is an infinitely more complex entity, that is immaterial, outside of logic and biology doesn't apply to it. Which is less likely to exist? An evolved species of ape, or a cosmic supreme being that exists outside reality?
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"] The odds of any supreme being existing would then logically be far lower than the odds of humans existing.Disagree. Intelligent life should be everywhere mathematically. It's not (at least so far). That's a complete non-sequitor. You said the odds of humans existing is far too low. Humans are a complex species that has evolved over millions of years to suit our environment. Humans are material, consistent with the laws of physics, laws of logic and biology. A supreme being is an infinitely more complex entity, that is immaterial, outside of logic and biology doesn't apply to it. Which is less likely to exist? An evolved species of ape, or a cosmic supreme being that exists outside reality? Yea odds....we haven't even found life anywhere else let alone intelligent life.
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Disagree. Intelligent life should be everywhere mathematically. It's not (at least so far).KC_Hokie
That's a complete non-sequitor. You said the odds of humans existing is far too low. Humans are a complex species that has evolved over millions of years to suit our environment. Humans are material, consistent with the laws of physics, laws of logic and biology. A supreme being is an infinitely more complex entity, that is immaterial, outside of logic and biology doesn't apply to it. Which is less likely to exist? An evolved species of ape, or a cosmic supreme being that exists outside reality? Yea odds....we haven't even found life anywhere else let alone intelligent life. Two non-sequitors in a row. What does the inability to find intelligent life have to do with the odds of humans existing vis-a-vis a god existing?
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"] That's a complete non-sequitor. You said the odds of humans existing is far too low. Humans are a complex species that has evolved over millions of years to suit our environment. Humans are material, consistent with the laws of physics, laws of logic and biology. A supreme being is an infinitely more complex entity, that is immaterial, outside of logic and biology doesn't apply to it. Which is less likely to exist? An evolved species of ape, or a cosmic supreme being that exists outside reality? Yea odds....we haven't even found life anywhere else let alone intelligent life. Two non-sequitors in a row. What does the inability to find intelligent life have to do with the odds of humans existing vis-a-vis a god existing?"I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations." - Albert Einstein
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Yea odds....we haven't even found life anywhere else let alone intelligent life. KC_Hokie
Two non-sequitors in a row. What does the inability to find intelligent life have to do with the odds of humans existing vis-a-vis a god existing?"I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations." - Albert Einstein And a third non-sequitor. You seem to be unable to discuss this topic coherently. Einstein didn't believe in quantum mechanics, so the idea that he can be quoted as some sort of infallible oracle whose every idea should be revered is absurd.
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"] Two non-sequitors in a row. What does the inability to find intelligent life have to do with the odds of humans existing vis-a-vis a god existing?"I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations." - Albert Einstein And a third non-sequitor. You seem to be unable to discuss this topic coherently. Einstein didn't believe in quantum mechanics, so the idea that he can be quoted as some sort of infallible oracle whose every idea should be revered is absurd.Einstein believed in a superior being based on math and odds. Considering none of his theories have been disproved...so do I!
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]"I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations." - Albert Einstein KC_Hokie
And a third non-sequitor. You seem to be unable to discuss this topic coherently. Einstein didn't believe in quantum mechanics, so the idea that he can be quoted as some sort of infallible oracle whose every idea should be revered is absurd.Einstein believed in a superior being based on math and odds. Considering none of his theories have been disproved...so do I! Einstein has been wrong. He was wrong about quantum mechanics because of preconceived ideas, he also failed to create his "theory of everything that would rectify his worldview with the implications of QM. Also, even if none of his theories were disproven, his opinions on god are not theories, it's just how he sees the world. Saying "Einstein believed x, therefore I believe x" is the definition of an appeal to authority which is a fallacy,
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"] And a third non-sequitor. You seem to be unable to discuss this topic coherently. Einstein didn't believe in quantum mechanics, so the idea that he can be quoted as some sort of infallible oracle whose every idea should be revered is absurd.Rhazakna
Einstein believed in a superior being based on math and odds. Considering none of his theories have been disproved...so do I! Einstein has been wrong. He was wrong about quantum mechanics because of preconceived ideas, he also failed to create his "theory of everything that would rectify his worldview with the implications of QM. Also, even if none of his theories were disproven, his opinions on god are not theories, it's just how he sees the world. Saying "Einstein believed x, therefore I believe x" is the definition of an appeal to authority which is a fallacy,Einstein never disagreed with quantum mechanics just the semantics of it.
And yea, Einstein has never been dis-proven. I find that relevant.
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