What's So Good About Worshipping God?

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#1 -Renegade
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It took me a really long time to realize this but our lives are pointless. I was looking at these fish in a fish bowl one day and I was like, wow they have really pointless lives. All they do all day is swim around in that small inclosed fishbowl eat, sleep, and sh!t until they die. Then I looked at human life and realized it was really no different.

When I was younger I had high ambitions and goals for when I got older but as I got older I realized no matter how hard I try or how hard I work I am going to end up in the same place as everyone else, 6 feet under ground. Then there is the afterlife(if one really exists) were we worship a god for all eternity, yes master no master. I hate my boss and don't like being told what to do. Living knowing that's the way it's going to be forever doesn't excite me. I want to be my own boss my own god.

A healer once said some people progress through light and some people progress through darkness. Ones who progress through darkness loving and kind deeds only hinder thier progression. It's not necassary a bad thing though because he thought it needs to be this way for the other to exist. Without light there can be no darkness and vice versa. It's like the ying and yang emposing forces empower each other. I think I am one of those people who progress through darkness. I think positive and nothing but bad things happen to me. I have a negative thinking attitude and good comes from it. Is this how it's meant to be?

God forgive me but it's wrong but I plan to die, Either take me in heaven and understand I was a G' did the best I could, raised in insanity or send me to hell cause I ain't beggin' for my life Ain't nothing worse then this cursed ass hopeless life. - Tupac Shakur

Is hell really that much worse then living here on earth?

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#2 Blue-Sky
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You may want to try Mormonism.

You get your own planet at the end.

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#3 XaosII
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People find it comforting to think fairy tales are true.

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#4 ScorpionTroll
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Emo moment.

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Nothing.
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#6 hydralisk86
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Religion IMO could provide the belief that life has a purpose, a good ending after death, that they have worth, etc.
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#7 SPYDER0416
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It took me a really long time to realize this but our lives are not pointless. I was looking at this poster on a forum one day and I was like, wow he has a really pointless life. All he does is post in this forum and ask dumb questions about God in a videogame forum until he gets bored and leaves or his thread gets locked. Then I look at human life outside this thread and I realized wow, our lives have way more purpose then this guy's life.

I mean when I was younger I didn't have any ambitions, but now I realize that with hard work and perseverance and not asking stupid questions on a gaming forum, I can become something, make something of my life, and maybe, just maybe, there is a God showing me this. Really, how can the real world and my life be worse then this? It can't, its impossible.

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#8 Bucked20
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Because people that worship God usually have a positive outlook on life even in the worst situations
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Religion IMO could provide the belief that life has a purpose, a good ending after death, that they have worth, etc.hydralisk86
I think it's better if the person creates their own purpose rather than being told one by a religion.
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#10 hydralisk86
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[QUOTE="hydralisk86"]Religion IMO could provide the belief that life has a purpose, a good ending after death, that they have worth, etc.l4dak47
I think it's better if the person creates their own purpose rather than being told one by your religion.

Well, i might have meant in purpose that we are here for a reason, or there was a reason that we were created by God. That we're not an accident.
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#11 whiskeystrike
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Meaning and purpose is self-determined

I would rather burn in hell than worship the nonexistant God portrayed in the Bible. Hitler is a real angel compared to that nutcase.

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[QUOTE="hydralisk86"]Religion IMO could provide the belief that life has a purpose, a good ending after death, that they have worth, etc.l4dak47
I think it's better if the person creates their own purpose rather than being told one by a religion.

Religion provides a purpose for life after death.

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="hydralisk86"]Religion IMO could provide the belief that life has a purpose, a good ending after death, that they have worth, etc.brucewayne69

I think it's better if the person creates their own purpose rather than being told one by a religion.

Religion provides a purpose for life after death.

Does it? It seems to me that after you're dead, you either go to hell or heaven. Not much of a purpose there.
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Because people that worship God usually have a positive outlook on life even in the worst situations Bucked20
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Because people that worship God usually have a positive outlook on life even in the worst situations Bucked20
Depends on the religion. Most Christians I've met have been obsessed by death.

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#16 rilpas
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[QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] I think it's better if the person creates their own purpose rather than being told one by a religion. l4dak47

Religion provides a purpose for life after death.

Does it? It seems to me that after you're dead, you either go to hell or heaven. Not much of a purpose there.

I'm not religious, but isn't that the point?

if you go to hell you're screwed if you go to heaven you can create your new purpose

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="hydralisk86"]Religion IMO could provide the belief that life has a purpose, a good ending after death, that they have worth, etc.hydralisk86
I think it's better if the person creates their own purpose rather than being told one by your religion.

Well, i might have meant in purpose that we are here for a reason, or there was a reason that we were created by God. That we're not an accident.

Why do you need to have purposed assigned to you? It seems really petty to be so insecure that you can only gain purpose by having another assign it to you. It sounds like how a lot of people will do a lot to gain acceptance from their peers.
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#18 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

Religion provides a purpose for life after death.

rilpas

Does it? It seems to me that after you're dead, you either go to hell or heaven. Not much of a purpose there.

I'm not religious, but isn't that the point?

if you go to hell you're screwed if you go to heaven you can create your new purpose

What new purpose in heaven? Supposedly all you do is stand around praising god all day(which sounds like a nightmare to me)
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#19 JoGoSo
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It's not good if you don't want to. It's awesome if you do.

However, that's no reason to either try to rain on other people's parade or, as I'm sure some idiot on the board has said, think that someone worshipping with conviction is delusional or relying on fairy tales and thus automatically dumber than they are (Usually not the case)

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#20 rilpas
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] Does it? It seems to me that after you're dead, you either go to hell or heaven. Not much of a purpose there. l4dak47

I'm not religious, but isn't that the point?

if you go to hell you're screwed if you go to heaven you can create your new purpose

What new purpose in heaven? Supposedly all you do is stand around praising god all day(which sounds like a nightmare to me)

the way I see it (again, not religious) is that you praise god and then go off and play videogames :P

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="rilpas"]I'm not religious, but isn't that the point?

if you go to hell you're screwed if you go to heaven you can create your new purpose

rilpas

What new purpose in heaven? Supposedly all you do is stand around praising god all day(which sounds like a nightmare to me)

the way I see it (again, not religious) is that you praise god and then go off and play videogames :P

Ha! Perhaps, but even then, not my idea of a good time.
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It's not good if you don't want to. It's awesome if you do.

However, that's no reason to either try to rain on other people's parade or, as I'm sure some idiot on the board has said, think that someone worshipping with conviction is delusional or relying on fairy tales and thus automatically dumber than they are (Usually not the case)

JoGoSo
The more educated you are, the less religious you are. So, not a far-fetched claim.
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#23 lundy86_4
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What's so bad about it?

At the end of the day, why should we give a sh*t what someone believes? Be your own person and make your own life. Unless a religion comes and screws you over, get over it.

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#24 JoGoSo
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[QUOTE="JoGoSo"]

It's not good if you don't want to. It's awesome if you do.

However, that's no reason to either try to rain on other people's parade or, as I'm sure some idiot on the board has said, think that someone worshipping with conviction is delusional or relying on fairy tales and thus automatically dumber than they are (Usually not the case)

l4dak47
The more educated you are, the less religious you are. So, not a far-fetched claim.

That's completely untrue. You think doctors are uneducated? Lawyers? College grads in general? I say the more close minded you are the more ignorant you become. If one doesn't want to believe in God, so be it, but to gauge intelligence based on it is stupid.
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="JoGoSo"]

It's not good if you don't want to. It's awesome if you do.

However, that's no reason to either try to rain on other people's parade or, as I'm sure some idiot on the board has said, think that someone worshipping with conviction is delusional or relying on fairy tales and thus automatically dumber than they are (Usually not the case)

JoGoSo
The more educated you are, the less religious you are. So, not a far-fetched claim.

That's completely untrue. You think doctors are uneducated? Lawyers? College grads in general? I say the more close minded you are the more ignorant you become. If one doesn't want to believe in God, so be it, but to gauge intelligence based on it is stupid.

I'd say someone following a 2,000 year old book is a pretty valid reason to judge their intelligence.
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#26 JoGoSo
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="JoGoSo"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] The more educated you are, the less religious you are. So, not a far-fetched claim.

That's completely untrue. You think doctors are uneducated? Lawyers? College grads in general? I say the more close minded you are the more ignorant you become. If one doesn't want to believe in God, so be it, but to gauge intelligence based on it is stupid.

I'd say someone following a 2,000 year old book is a pretty valid reason to judge their intelligence.

And again, that would simply be a sign of stupidity to believe that. If people had come up with something better all this time, they would have followed that...But they haven't. Maybe they're too smart to come up with something smart.
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TC - What's so good about NOT worshipping God? There's a saying I've heard a few times that goes along the lines of the last question, that Earth is as close as non-believers will ever get to Heaven, and Earth is as close as believers will get to Hell. I prefer belief in God as it gives me a hope that there's something better than what's here and now. I'm thankful for the time I've had, and even if there is no God or Heaven, why should I give up on the hope that there might be?
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#28 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="JoGoSo"][QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="JoGoSo"]That's completely untrue. You think doctors are uneducated? Lawyers? College grads in general? I say the more close minded you are the more ignorant you become. If one doesn't want to believe in God, so be it, but to gauge intelligence based on it is stupid.

I'd say someone following a 2,000 year old book is a pretty valid reason to judge their intelligence.

And again, that would simply be a sign of stupidity to believe that. If people had come up with something better all this time, they would have followed that...But they haven't. Maybe they're too smart to come up with something smart.

Mhm. Not true. Atheism is on the rise and religion on the decrease in first world nations.
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[QUOTE="Stinger78"]TC - What's so good about NOT worshipping God? There's a saying I've heard a few times that goes along the lines of the last question, that Earth is as close as non-believers will ever get to Heaven, and Earth is as close as believers will get to Hell. I prefer belief in God as it gives me a hope that there's something better than what's here and now. I'm thankful for the time I've had, and even if there is no God or Heaven, why should I give up on the hope that there might be?

Before I answer your question, are you talking about a specific god. Like the christian god or are you speaking in more general terms?
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TC - What's so good about NOT worshipping God? There's a saying I've heard a few times that goes along the lines of the last question, that Earth is as close as non-believers will ever get to Heaven, and Earth is as close as believers will get to Hell. I prefer belief in God as it gives me a hope that there's something better than what's here and now. I'm thankful for the time I've had, and even if there is no God or Heaven, why should I give up on the hope that there might be?Stinger78

There are dozens of possible gods though and picking one gurantees the wrath and punishment of all the others. Not very sound logic.

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stinger78"]TC - What's so good about NOT worshipping God? There's a saying I've heard a few times that goes along the lines of the last question, that Earth is as close as non-believers will ever get to Heaven, and Earth is as close as believers will get to Hell. I prefer belief in God as it gives me a hope that there's something better than what's here and now. I'm thankful for the time I've had, and even if there is no God or Heaven, why should I give up on the hope that there might be?

Before I answer your question, are you talking about a specific god. Like the christian god or are you speaking in more general terms?

Well, I believe in the God described as the God of Abraham. The one referred to as Father by Jesus Christ. If you want me to be more specific, then it would be the one described mainly in the King James Bible.
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] What new purpose in heaven? Supposedly all you do is stand around praising god all day(which sounds like a nightmare to me)l4dak47

the way I see it (again, not religious) is that you praise god and then go off and play videogames :P

Ha! Perhaps, but even then, not my idea of a good time.

meh, if it means that you spend say, sunday worshipping god and the other six days doing what you want... I'm down with that :P

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[QUOTE="Stinger78"]TC - What's so good about NOT worshipping God? There's a saying I've heard a few times that goes along the lines of the last question, that Earth is as close as non-believers will ever get to Heaven, and Earth is as close as believers will get to Hell. I prefer belief in God as it gives me a hope that there's something better than what's here and now. I'm thankful for the time I've had, and even if there is no God or Heaven, why should I give up on the hope that there might be?whiskeystrike

There are dozens of possible gods though and picking one gurantees the wrath and punishment of all the others. Not very sound logic.

Just curious if you'd mind naming or describing some of these other 'gods', as the one I was talking about I've answered in response to l4dak47.
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#34 Stinger78
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="rilpas"]

the way I see it (again, not religious) is that you praise god and then go off and play videogames :P

rilpas

Ha! Perhaps, but even then, not my idea of a good time.

meh, if it means that you spend say, sunday worshipping god and the other six days doing what you want... I'm down with that :P

There are many who proclaim to be Christian who seem to act that way.
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[QUOTE="Stinger78"][QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stinger78"]TC - What's so good about NOT worshipping God? There's a saying I've heard a few times that goes along the lines of the last question, that Earth is as close as non-believers will ever get to Heaven, and Earth is as close as believers will get to Hell. I prefer belief in God as it gives me a hope that there's something better than what's here and now. I'm thankful for the time I've had, and even if there is no God or Heaven, why should I give up on the hope that there might be?

Before I answer your question, are you talking about a specific god. Like the christian god or are you speaking in more general terms?

Well, I believe in the God described as the God of Abraham. The one referred to as Father by Jesus Christ. If you want me to be more specific, then it would be the one described mainly in the King James Bible.

Okay. I'll answer your question as to why I don't worship/believe in the christian god. I used to feel enslaved by a 2,000 year old bible filled with outdated morals and ideas. Furthermore, the bible is often filled with contradicting information and god committed several acts that made me question this notion of him being this all powerful, all loving, and all forgiving god. When I stopped believing in organized religion, I felt a great burden lifted off my shoulder and for once, I could determine my own life in this world instead of following a set of rules that made no sense to me.
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] Ha! Perhaps, but even then, not my idea of a good time. Stinger78

meh, if it means that you spend say, sunday worshipping god and the other six days doing what you want... I'm down with that :P

There are many who proclaim to be Christian who seem to act that way.

Indeed, like the Atheists who celebrate Christmas, aka presents and good food day. I don't believe any religion personally, but I acknowledge there could be a God, I think it's human instinct.
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#37 Dogswithguns
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Worshiping God made human think life are meaningful. it's meaning they think they going somewhere beyond after they die. when there's nothing afterlife.. they think somewhere up there are better than here.. If there's heaven, I don't think I wanna go there anyway. there's nothing up there but white bright light. What th fck are they gonna do up there, flying around and be happy?! flying and floating around?! That would be so bored then, to the point I wanna just die.. No thanks, I have more fun, lots of things to do here on earth. anyways, after you die, there's nothing but dirt and dust 6 feet under. why can't people just except the fact!!!
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#38 Stinger78
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[QUOTE="hydralisk86"]Religion IMO could provide the belief that life has a purpose, a good ending after death, that they have worth, etc.l4dak47
I think it's better if the person creates their own purpose rather than being told one by a religion.

Religion is a man-made set of rules and regulations that often adding-to or taking-away-from the Bible with which their church is supposed to be associated with. Now, if you meant religion as in 'faith', then that's somewhat different.
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#39 Stinger78
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stinger78"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] Before I answer your question, are you talking about a specific god. Like the christian god or are you speaking in more general terms?

Well, I believe in the God described as the God of Abraham. The one referred to as Father by Jesus Christ. If you want me to be more specific, then it would be the one described mainly in the King James Bible.

Okay. I'll answer your question as to why I don't worship/believe in the christian god. I used to feel enslaved by a 2,000 year old bible filled with outdated morals and ideas. Furthermore, the bible is often filled with contradicting information and god committed several acts that made me question this notion of him being this all powerful, all loving, and all forgiving god. When I stopped believing in organized religion, I felt a great burden lifted off my shoulder and for once, I could determine my own life in this world instead of following a set of rules that made no sense to me.

Do you mean outdated morals as in, to not murder, to not lie, to not steal, to not rape? I think those should still apply today.
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="hydralisk86"]Religion IMO could provide the belief that life has a purpose, a good ending after death, that they have worth, etc.Stinger78
I think it's better if the person creates their own purpose rather than being told one by a religion.

Religion is a man-made set of rules and regulations that often adding-to or taking-away-from the Bible with which their church is supposed to be associated with. Now, if you meant religion as in 'faith', then that's somewhat different.

I dislike organized religion and I personally think it's better for a person to create their own relationship with god if they so desire rather than following what an organization tells you to do.
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stinger78"] Well, I believe in the God described as the God of Abraham. The one referred to as Father by Jesus Christ. If you want me to be more specific, then it would be the one described mainly in the King James Bible.Stinger78
Okay. I'll answer your question as to why I don't worship/believe in the christian god. I used to feel enslaved by a 2,000 year old bible filled with outdated morals and ideas. Furthermore, the bible is often filled with contradicting information and god committed several acts that made me question this notion of him being this all powerful, all loving, and all forgiving god. When I stopped believing in organized religion, I felt a great burden lifted off my shoulder and for once, I could determine my own life in this world instead of following a set of rules that made no sense to me.

Do you mean outdated morals as in, to not murder, to not lie, to not steal, to not rape? I think those should still apply today.

Do you honestly believe that the bible isn't outdated? Do you just pretend all the homophobia and sexism in it isn't there?

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[QUOTE="Stinger78"][QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stinger78"] Well, I believe in the God described as the God of Abraham. The one referred to as Father by Jesus Christ. If you want me to be more specific, then it would be the one described mainly in the King James Bible.

Okay. I'll answer your question as to why I don't worship/believe in the christian god. I used to feel enslaved by a 2,000 year old bible filled with outdated morals and ideas. Furthermore, the bible is often filled with contradicting information and god committed several acts that made me question this notion of him being this all powerful, all loving, and all forgiving god. When I stopped believing in organized religion, I felt a great burden lifted off my shoulder and for once, I could determine my own life in this world instead of following a set of rules that made no sense to me.

Do you mean outdated morals as in, to not murder, to not lie, to not steal, to not rape? I think those should still apply today.

They do, but those are pretty universal morals that have long existed before the bible. No, I'm talking about when fundamentalists use the bible to condemn things like homosexuality, abortion, evolution, etc. Not to mention that many of those morals are often not followed in the bible.
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[QUOTE="Stinger78"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] Okay. I'll answer your question as to why I don't worship/believe in the christian god. I used to feel enslaved by a 2,000 year old bible filled with outdated morals and ideas. Furthermore, the bible is often filled with contradicting information and god committed several acts that made me question this notion of him being this all powerful, all loving, and all forgiving god. When I stopped believing in organized religion, I felt a great burden lifted off my shoulder and for once, I could determine my own life in this world instead of following a set of rules that made no sense to me. toast_burner

Do you mean outdated morals as in, to not murder, to not lie, to not steal, to not rape? I think those should still apply today.

Do you honestly believe that the bible isn't outdated? Do you just pretend all the homophobia and sexism in it isn't there?

I don't pretend anything isn't in there, if you're talking specifically about a King James or New King James version. I believe there are standards for conduct made fairly clear and anyone not following the standards will be judged accordingly. I also do not exclude myself from anything stated in any verse, chapter or book.
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stinger78"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] Okay. I'll answer your question as to why I don't worship/believe in the christian god. I used to feel enslaved by a 2,000 year old bible filled with outdated morals and ideas. Furthermore, the bible is often filled with contradicting information and god committed several acts that made me question this notion of him being this all powerful, all loving, and all forgiving god. When I stopped believing in organized religion, I felt a great burden lifted off my shoulder and for once, I could determine my own life in this world instead of following a set of rules that made no sense to me.

Do you mean outdated morals as in, to not murder, to not lie, to not steal, to not rape? I think those should still apply today.

They do, but those are pretty universal morals that have long existed before the bible. No, I'm talking about when fundamentalists use the bible to condemn things like homosexuality, abortion, evolution, etc. Not to mention that many of those morals are often not followed in the bible.

I recall many passages of judgement against individuals who were not following the standards.
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Stinger78"] Do you mean outdated morals as in, to not murder, to not lie, to not steal, to not rape? I think those should still apply today.Stinger78

Do you honestly believe that the bible isn't outdated? Do you just pretend all the homophobia and sexism in it isn't there?

I don't pretend anything isn't in there, if you're talking specifically about a King James or New King James version. I believe there are standards for conduct made fairly clear and anyone not following the standards will be judged accordingly. I also do not exclude myself from anything stated in any verse, chapter or book.

So because you follow it that means it isn't outdated? If I start using a Macintosh 128K would it no longer be outdated hardware because I'm currently using it?

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I don't pretend anything isn't in there, if you're talking specifically about a King James or New King James version. I believe there are standards for conduct made fairly clear and anyone not following the standards will be judged accordingly. I also do not exclude myself from anything stated in any verse, chapter or book.Stinger78

Ah, so you do agree that slavery is ok, its fine to sell your daughter, religious intolerance, men are superior to women, and that shellfish shouldn't be eaten. Wonderful.

But the bible's morality is totally not outdated.

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[QUOTE="Stinger78"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Do you honestly believe that the bible isn't outdated? Do you just pretend all the homophobia and sexism in it isn't there?

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I don't pretend anything isn't in there, if you're talking specifically about a King James or New King James version. I believe there are standards for conduct made fairly clear and anyone not following the standards will be judged accordingly. I also do not exclude myself from anything stated in any verse, chapter or book.

So because you follow it that means it isn't outdated? If I start using a Macintosh 128K would it no longer be outdated hardware because I'm currently using it?

What I'm saying, again, is that there are standards. Many laws and ideas still in-use today are based on biblical principles, and just because society or the majority of people have changed the rules, it does not change that. If you want to use a Macintosh 128K, then go right ahead :)
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[QUOTE="Stinger78"][QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stinger78"] Do you mean outdated morals as in, to not murder, to not lie, to not steal, to not rape? I think those should still apply today.

They do, but those are pretty universal morals that have long existed before the bible. No, I'm talking about when fundamentalists use the bible to condemn things like homosexuality, abortion, evolution, etc. Not to mention that many of those morals are often not followed in the bible.

I recall many passages of judgement against individuals who were not following the standards.

No, I was talking more about your god not following some of his commandments specifically in the OT.
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Stinger78"] I don't pretend anything isn't in there, if you're talking specifically about a King James or New King James version. I believe there are standards for conduct made fairly clear and anyone not following the standards will be judged accordingly. I also do not exclude myself from anything stated in any verse, chapter or book.Stinger78

So because you follow it that means it isn't outdated? If I start using a Macintosh 128K would it no longer be outdated hardware because I'm currently using it?

What I'm saying, again, is that there are standards. Many laws and ideas still in-use today are based on biblical principles, and just because society or the majority of people have changed the rules, it does not change that. If you want to use a Macintosh 128K, then go right ahead :)

There's a word for things that haven't changed over time. It's called "outdated"

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Stinger78"] I don't pretend anything isn't in there, if you're talking specifically about a King James or New King James version. I believe there are standards for conduct made fairly clear and anyone not following the standards will be judged accordingly. I also do not exclude myself from anything stated in any verse, chapter or book.Stinger78

So because you follow it that means it isn't outdated? If I start using a Macintosh 128K would it no longer be outdated hardware because I'm currently using it?

What I'm saying, again, is that there are standards. Many laws and ideas still in-use today are based on biblical principles, and just because society or the majority of people have changed the rules, it does not change that. If you want to use a Macintosh 128K, then go right ahead :)

What laws and ideas, specifically?