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#1 Posted by Nengo_Flow (10396 posts) -

Well yeah I know there is a thread but my thread is not a response thread to that. Im just taking its title.

 

So I just watch this vid and people are all disgusted by it saying the father is a monster and all that.

 

http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=83964

 

What is your stance on ass whoopings?

Im all for it. And I use to get the same type of belt whipping, the same way that father did (against the wall screaming for your life). I dont know why those girls were all screaming like they were dying tho, they had long pants for god's sake. I use to get hit with shorts on, in my undees, even naked while coming out the shower. Plus each one took like 6 licks at most. Thats nothing. 

 

Im glad the father beat them, wish more parents would beat their stupid kids for doing dumb ass sh*t.

#2 Posted by DroidPhysX (17093 posts) -

Beating children means they will be damaged as adults.

#3 Posted by Nengo_Flow (10396 posts) -

Beating children means they will be damaged as adults.

DroidPhysX

Im alright.

 

and pretty much everyone else who was born since the beginning of time and up to the early 1990s turned out alright.

#4 Posted by ad1x2 (5789 posts) -
It could work when done properly. Going overboard crosses into abuse. Also, it doesn't work on everybody.
#5 Posted by lostrib (41956 posts) -

Beating children means they will be damaged as adults.

DroidPhysX

A lot of things that happen to children can damage them 

#6 Posted by WhiteKnight77 (12018 posts) -
A belt would have been better and yeah, since the "you can't spank children" crowd has taken hold, lack of discipline has really taken hold and we know what has happened since, especially with the "my kids didn't do it" crowd who don't believe their kids could smash mail boxes or worse.
#7 Posted by Shottayouth13- (6854 posts) -

As long as it doesn't delve into abuse, then there's nothing wrong with it.Children these days are too spoiled, they need a good ass beating.

 

Just watched the video, the father has my respect. This twerking f*ckry needs to stop and I don't blame him for not condoning it.

 

I doubt they'll be twerking their asses again.

#8 Posted by 4myAmuzumament (1791 posts) -
my folks would make us go outside and find the switch they were about to use on us... if we found a wimpy one, they laughed and made us find a bigger one. choosing your own pain is the best way to raise your children and teach them valuable life lessons.
#9 Posted by WhiteKnight77 (12018 posts) -

As long as it doesn't delve into abuse, then there's nothing wrong with it Children these days are too spoiled, they good a good ass beating.

 

Just watched the video, the father has my respect. This twerking f*ckry needs to stop and I don't blame him for not condoning it.

 

I doubt they'll be twerking their asses again.

Shottayouth13-
I didn't know that a new term was developed for booty dancing, but I agree, no child, pre-teen or teen needs to be booty shaking or twerking. I can't blame the Dad for being mad.
#10 Posted by Shottayouth13- (6854 posts) -
[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"]

As long as it doesn't delve into abuse, then there's nothing wrong with it Children these days are too spoiled, they good a good ass beating.

 

Just watched the video, the father has my respect. This twerking f*ckry needs to stop and I don't blame him for not condoning it.

 

I doubt they'll be twerking their asses again.

WhiteKnight77
I didn't know that a new term was developed for booty dancing, but I agree, no child, pre-teen or teen needs to be booty shaking or twerking. I can't blame the Dad for being mad.

And what really pisses me off is that some people are going to demonize this man. What did they expect him to do, give them a stern talking to? America needs to get rid of that can't beat your children law. It's just creating a generation of disrespectful children.
#11 Posted by konvikt_17 (22334 posts) -

those little plastic hotweels race tracks hurt like a b!tch.

i dont think its as acceptable now, than it was back then. people are too sensitive nowadays.

#12 Posted by harashawn (27604 posts) -
There is a difference between discipline and beating. My parents spanked me when I was a kid, and that was for discipline. What the father in that video is doing is beating, and it is awful.
#13 Posted by br0kenrabbit (13393 posts) -

You risk them ending up like me.

The last time I got paddled was in 5th grade and went like this:

Me: (laughing) harder.

Teacher: Oh, you want more? You like it?

Me: Yeah. Sexually.

Never got paddled (at school) again. :(

Also, I wasn't lying. :cool:

#14 Posted by Nengo_Flow (10396 posts) -
There is a difference between discipline and beating. My parents spanked me when I was a kid, and that was for discipline. What the father in that video is doing is beating, and it is awful.harashawn
he's beat for discipline
#15 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
When discipline reaches the point where violence becomes necessary, then questions regarding the parent(s) ability to raise their child should begin and the child's mental health should be evaluated.
#16 Posted by BossPerson (9117 posts) -

I had a slipper thrown at my feet a couple times by my mom....

im still mentally scarred to this day

..but yea, dont beat your kids

#17 Posted by mccoyca112 (5433 posts) -

 people are too sensitive nowadays.

konvikt_17

#18 Posted by PernicioEnigma (5420 posts) -
I'm all for tough love but don't be stupid TC, that was clearly excessive force.
#19 Posted by Nengo_Flow (10396 posts) -
I'm all for tough love but don't be stupid TC, that was clearly excessive force.PernicioEnigma
i use to get the same thing with more and longer.
#20 Posted by michael_1234576 (8621 posts) -
I was spanked a few times growing up but only because I was a little hell raiser. I'm cool with a little spanking if warranted but an "ass whooping" defiantly sounds way over board.
#21 Posted by PernicioEnigma (5420 posts) -
[QUOTE="PernicioEnigma"]I'm all for tough love but don't be stupid TC, that was clearly excessive force.Nengo_Flow
i use to get the same thing with more and longer.

That doesn't make it okay.
#22 Posted by Nengo_Flow (10396 posts) -
[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"][QUOTE="PernicioEnigma"]I'm all for tough love but don't be stupid TC, that was clearly excessive force.PernicioEnigma
i use to get the same thing with more and longer.

That doesn't make it okay.

misbehavior deserves punishment I think it was well deserve. Wish more parents had an iron fist for their children's bullsh*t
#23 Posted by IdioticIcarus (2167 posts) -
I'm not going to lie, I may be incredibly wimpy, but I still have nightmares about my dad yelling obscenities while hitting me or a sibling with the buckle end of a belt. I cringed throughout that entire video. I just don't see how that is ever warranted. Discipline? Definitely. But beating? I feel like all it did for me, personally, was make me lose any respect I had for my father. I realize kids are different and respond differently to different things, though, but I still don't see the way this father acted as being a good option ever.
#24 Posted by MgamerBD (17550 posts) -
He didn't beat them that bad. I've seen worse and got worse.
#25 Posted by cain006 (8625 posts) -

Completely against them. I still remember what it was like when my dad spanked me, all it did was make me afraid of him. Nothing against my dad though, he's an awesome guy.

#26 Posted by pspdseagle (3307 posts) -
They do say to pick on people your own size. I don't like it.
#27 Posted by Nengo_Flow (10396 posts) -

He didn't beat them that bad. I've seen worse and got worse.MgamerBD
finally some one that understands. I watch the vid like I was watching a funny cat vid. I wasnt horrified. I was just like "Heh, I remember when I got those beatings, ah..... good times" Cuz I actually laugh at my memories of my beat downs, I think its funny that i got beat like that.

#28 Posted by unrealtron (3148 posts) -
It's fine unless they overkill it.
#29 Posted by VanHelsingBoA64 (5455 posts) -
i admire OP's toughness and mental fortitude
#30 Posted by chrisrooR (9027 posts) -

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

 people are too sensitive nowadays.

mccoyca112

No, we just know more about neurological and social development in youth. You shouldn't hit your kids for any reason in theory....In practice, I'm sure the temptation is harder to control.

#31 Posted by Nengo_Flow (10396 posts) -

i admire OP's toughness and mental fortitudeVanHelsingBoA64

 

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#32 Posted by Nengo_Flow (10396 posts) -

[QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

 people are too sensitive nowadays.

chrisrooR

No, we just know more about neurological and social development in youth. You shouldn't hit your kids for any reason in theory....In practice, I'm sure the temptation is harder to control.

yeah but those girls were around 15, they know the deal by now and arent going to suffer any "development" issues like beating a 3-4year old would.
#33 Posted by PernicioEnigma (5420 posts) -
[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"][QUOTE="PernicioEnigma"][QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"] i use to get the same thing with more and longer.

That doesn't make it okay.

misbehavior deserves punishment I think it was well deserve. Wish more parents had an iron fist for their children's bullsh*t

Indeed. There are varying degrees of punishment, this is excessive, as I said in my post. I'm not suggesting bad behavior shouldn't be punished.
#34 Posted by Jacobistheman (3975 posts) -

I don't think that was called for and was excessive. These kids are too old for this to be an effective punishment. 

I do think that there is a need for corporal punishment and is a good way to convey the consiquences of actions and prevent bad behavior in children, but you get to an age where you can understand actions to the point where physical punishment is not needed and not effective. 

#35 Posted by MakeMeaSammitch (4511 posts) -

study after study has shown that kids that are beaten or spanked do worse in life financially, are more likely to develop fetishes/mental disorders, are more prone to violence, ect.

So I'm opposed to it.

also, your dad sounds like a terrible parent.

#36 Posted by XilePrincess (13130 posts) -
There is a difference between physical discipline and beating. THAT was beating and what that guy did to his kid is not okay. I am perfectly fine with a parent giving a child a slap on the ass with an open hand, I had it done to me and I was okay. Whipping your child with an object, including a stick, belt, jump rope, metal or wooden rod, etc etc etc. is not okay. I believe if you're going to physically discipline your child it should be done with your open hand, nothing else. She made a twerking video. A parent who has more than 3 brain cells would sit the child down and explain to them why that is inappropriate, not beat them with a belt until they're sobbing. That doesn't fix the situation or teach the child anything except that you're horrible.
#37 Posted by chrisrooR (9027 posts) -
[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]

[QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

Nengo_Flow

No, we just know more about neurological and social development in youth. You shouldn't hit your kids for any reason in theory....In practice, I'm sure the temptation is harder to control.

yeah but those girls were around 15, they know the deal by now and arent going to suffer any "development" issues like beating a 3-4year old would.

Entirely false. Entirely.
#38 Posted by theone86 (20555 posts) -

Jesus, there are a lot of sociopaths in this thread.  The dad grabs an extension cord, whips the girl until she's crying on the ground, then keeps on whipping her all the while screaming profanities at her and you people are all "she deserves it, needs to stop crying, today's youth are spoiled, etc."  I seriously hope nobody who watches that video and is completely okay with it ever has kids.

#39 Posted by mccoyca112 (5433 posts) -

[QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

 people are too sensitive nowadays.

chrisrooR

No, we just know more about neurological and social development in youth. You shouldn't hit your kids for any reason in theory....In practice, I'm sure the temptation is harder to control.

I'm talking in general, and that is indisputable. In theory, or practice, it's subjective. Only thing that isn't subjective is the landslide of support towards time-outs. I've had my share of whippings. I had it worse. My cousin got it even worse than I did. And we both deserved them. I don't say that because I think kids should get what I got. I say that because getting grounded, or getting "the talk" didn't stop me. Whippings did. Most times.

#40 Posted by theone86 (20555 posts) -

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]

[QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

mccoyca112

No, we just know more about neurological and social development in youth. You shouldn't hit your kids for any reason in theory....In practice, I'm sure the temptation is harder to control.

I'm talking in general, and that is indisputable. In theory, or practice, it's subjective. Only thing that isn't subjective is the landslide of support towards time-outs. I've had my share of whippings. I had it worse. My cousin got it even worse than I did. And we both deserved them. I don't say that because I think kids should get what I got. I say that because getting grounded, or getting "the talk" didn't stop me. Whippings did. Most times.

States subjective opinion, posits it as indusputable, rofl.

Anecdotal evidence, more rofl.

#41 Posted by chrisrooR (9027 posts) -

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]

[QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

mccoyca112

No, we just know more about neurological and social development in youth. You shouldn't hit your kids for any reason in theory....In practice, I'm sure the temptation is harder to control.

I'm talking in general, and that is indisputable. In theory, or practice, it's subjective. Only thing that isn't subjective is the landslide of support towards time-outs. I've had my share of whippings. I had it worse. My cousin got it even worse than I did. And we both deserved them. I don't say that because I think kids should get what I got. I say that because getting grounded, or getting "the talk" didn't stop me. Whippings did. Most times.

:roll: How is that indisputable? You wouldn't happen to have any empirically reviewed studies to support that claim, would you?

You shouldn't hit your kids for ANY reason. It's only an extremely temporary solution, and you're teaching your children to fear you as a parent. Just because you were whipped as a child does not make it any more acceptable an action for parents to resort to. 

#42 Posted by Shottayouth13- (6854 posts) -

[QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"] No, we just know more about neurological and social development in youth. You shouldn't hit your kids for any reason in theory....In practice, I'm sure the temptation is harder to control.

chrisrooR

I'm talking in general, and that is indisputable. In theory, or practice, it's subjective. Only thing that isn't subjective is the landslide of support towards time-outs. I've had my share of whippings. I had it worse. My cousin got it even worse than I did. And we both deserved them. I don't say that because I think kids should get what I got. I say that because getting grounded, or getting "the talk" didn't stop me. Whippings did. Most times.

:roll: How is that indisputable? You wouldn't happen to have any empirically reviewed studies to support that claim, would you?

You shouldn't hit your kids for ANY reason. It's only an extremely temporary solution, and you're teaching your children to fear you as a parent. Just because you were whipped as a child does not make it any more acceptable an action for parents to resort to. 

But your children should fear you. Not fear in a "I'm going to die way", but rather in a respectful "I don't want to cross them way." It makes them know that there's a line that must never be crossed.
#43 Posted by BuryMe (22017 posts) -

But your children should fear you. Not fear in a "I'm going to die way", but rather in a respectful "I don't want to cross them way." It makes them know that there's a line that must never be crossed.Shottayouth13-
If you do what the guy in that video did, their fear will be the "I'm going to die" way.

#44 Posted by Shottayouth13- (6854 posts) -

[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"]But your children should fear you. Not fear in a "I'm going to die way", but rather in a respectful "I don't want to cross them way." It makes them know that there's a line that must never be crossed.BuryMe

If you do what the guy in that video did, their fear will be the "I'm going to die" way.

Lol oh please. That was nothing. My siblings and cousins (not me, I was a good kid for the most part) got it much worse than that in their childhood, and now in their adulthood, they still maintain a great relationship with their parents. We just all know that there's a line that mustn't be crossed.
#45 Posted by BuryMe (22017 posts) -

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"]But your children should fear you. Not fear in a "I'm going to die way", but rather in a respectful "I don't want to cross them way." It makes them know that there's a line that must never be crossed.Shottayouth13-

If you do what the guy in that video did, their fear will be the "I'm going to die" way.

Lol oh please. That was nothing. My siblings and cousins (not me, I was a good kid for the most part) got it much worse than that in their childhood, and now in their adulthood, they still maintain a great relationship with their parents. We just all know that there's a line that mustn't be crossed.

That was brutal. Do that to an adult and you could find yourself in jail for battery.

There is a line that you souldn't cross, but it works both ways. What that guy did, and what your cousins apparently got from their parents, was WAY over the line.

#46 Posted by chrisrooR (9027 posts) -
[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]

[QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

I'm talking in general, and that is indisputable. In theory, or practice, it's subjective. Only thing that isn't subjective is the landslide of support towards time-outs. I've had my share of whippings. I had it worse. My cousin got it even worse than I did. And we both deserved them. I don't say that because I think kids should get what I got. I say that because getting grounded, or getting "the talk" didn't stop me. Whippings did. Most times.

Shottayouth13-

:roll: How is that indisputable? You wouldn't happen to have any empirically reviewed studies to support that claim, would you?

You shouldn't hit your kids for ANY reason. It's only an extremely temporary solution, and you're teaching your children to fear you as a parent. Just because you were whipped as a child does not make it any more acceptable an action for parents to resort to. 

But your children should fear you. Not fear in a "I'm going to die way", but rather in a respectful "I don't want to cross them way." It makes them know that there's a line that must never be crossed.

Parents are the last people a child should fear. I don't know where you're getting that idea...possibly your own parents?
#47 Posted by Shottayouth13- (6854 posts) -

[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="BuryMe"]If you do what the guy in that video did, their fear will be the "I'm going to die" way.

BuryMe

Lol oh please. That was nothing. My siblings and cousins (not me, I was a good kid for the most part) got it much worse than that in their childhood, and now in their adulthood, they still maintain a great relationship with their parents. We just all know that there's a line that mustn't be crossed.

That was brutal. Do that to an adult and you could find yourself in jail for battery.

There is a line that you souldn't cross, but it works both ways. What that guy did, and what your cousins apparently got from their parents, was WAY over the line.

LOL, brutal how? Their unnecessary screaming just amplified everything. Parents have a right to discipline their children. As long as it doesn't cross abuse, then no government body has any right telling a parent how they should raise their child.

#48 Posted by supa_badman (16659 posts) -

Corporal punishment definitely isn't something that should be on video ever...

 

I wouldn't deny my bratty child a good smack or two.

#49 Posted by Shottayouth13- (6854 posts) -
[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"] :roll: How is that indisputable? You wouldn't happen to have any empirically reviewed studies to support that claim, would you?

You shouldn't hit your kids for ANY reason. It's only an extremely temporary solution, and you're teaching your children to fear you as a parent. Just because you were whipped as a child does not make it any more acceptable an action for parents to resort to. 

chrisrooR
But your children should fear you. Not fear in a "I'm going to die way", but rather in a respectful "I don't want to cross them way." It makes them know that there's a line that must never be crossed.

Parents are the last people a child should fear. I don't know where you're getting that idea...possibly your own parents?

I fear them in the way that I know that there's a line that must never be crossed. That is, I respect them. I have a lovely relationship with my parents thank you.
#50 Posted by Communist_Soul (3080 posts) -

Holy hell child aid services should be called. I understand if you use a small stick on their hand or back but that was just sick.