What is wrong with being a Zionist?

I was talking with this girl I work with and I was telling her I was planning on going to Israel, she asked me if I'm worried about the fighting that goes there and I said no, I told her what I think of the conflict and she said I was a Zionist. I said yes and asked what's wrong with that, and she gave me this really strange look like I said something bad or evil.

How is it evil to believe Jews deserve a home land? How is it evil to support people who have been persecuted since forever? How is it evil to support Israel and it's Democracy? How is it evil to support a Nation that values human rights and equality among genders and races? How is it evil to support a place where the Jewish culture, ethnicity, and religion can flourish?

It's not, it's a good thing. The Zionists are the good guys, anti-Zionists are the bad guys. Why do people hate us Jews so much? Why do they hate Israel so much? It is just bigoted. I hear people say things like Israel shouldn't exist and the Jews should move somewhere else, do you know how bigoted that is? What if someone said the UK shouldn't exist and English people should move somewhere else? See that is wrong. Same thing with anti-Zionists, they are just wrong.

We Jews are a people of survival, no matter how hard you will try we will never disappear.

Some people would rather the most civilized and sanest people in the region be replaced by another backwards Islamic republic.

I oppose all nationalist and colonialist ideologies because I don't believe in land ownership. However, I'm not in any way opposed to the idea of Jews simply living in what they regard as their ancestral homeland.

There is nothing wrong with a Jewish homeland. Just like there is nothing wrong with a Palestinian homeland. Everyone deserves a place to live in peacefully. It's sad when those places overlap and there is conflict.

As I haven't lived in the Middle East, I won't offer an opinion on who is right and who is wrong. I'm bothered most by the lack of an formal peace process. There is nothing positive about the situation. There is only blaming, arguing and death.

Lol Zionism, purest scum on earth,

However, I'm not in any way opposed to the idea of Jews simply living in what they regard as their ancestral homeland.

ghoklebutter

There is nothing wrong with the notion. Actually it a rather good notion.

I'm rather stunned how the idea that Jewish people should have a homeland preferable surrounding Jerusalem, has become as taboo a word as racist and nazi.

That said, leaders do abuse the idea like any other ideology to push for power.

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However, I'm not in any way opposed to the idea of Jews simply living in what they regard as their ancestral homeland.

GrayF0X786

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However, I'm not in any way opposed to the idea of Jews simply living in what they regard as their ancestral homeland.

GrayF0X786

Maybe we should ask the Canninites what we should do with their land. Oh wait...the Jews killed ALL OF THEM.

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However, I'm not in any way opposed to the idea of Jews simply living in what they regard as their ancestral homeland.

GrayF0X786

You don't know anything.

First off no matter how you spin it, the Jews were there first. Yep it's true, and they didn't just "walk in", they bought land from the Arabs LEGALLY. Some of the Arabs had a problem with having Jewish neighbors, so they attacked them, the Jews then trying to defend themselves fought back. That is how it got started.

The Palestinains threw the first punch. And Israel gave you Arabs the West Bank as a sigh of peace. But apparently that isn't good enough. You guys just want Jews to not exist anymore. That is what it sounds like.

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However, I'm not in any way opposed to the idea of Jews simply living in what they regard as their ancestral homeland.

ghoklebutter

Lol Zionism, purest scum on earth,

GrayF0X786

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However, I'm not in any way opposed to the idea of Jews simply living in what they regard as their ancestral homeland.

ghoklebutter

There are Palestinians in the Israeli government. Israel does not discriminate against non Jews.

the whole area is a shythole anyway.

i wish we could just dig up a few inches of topsoil and transport it to arizona and call that the holy land.

all the jews could move there, we would be happy to have you and you could stop providing the middle east a unifying enemy that is keeping all the religious factions and unstable political organizations in the area from turning on each other and destroying themselves.

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However, I'm not in any way opposed to the idea of Jews simply living in what they regard as their ancestral homeland.

ShadowMoses900

You don't know anything.

First off no matter how you spin it, the Jews were there first. Yep it's true, and they didn't just "walk in", they bought land from the Arabs LEGALLY. Some of the Arabs had a problem with having Jewish neighbors, so they attacked them, the Jews then trying to defend themselves fought back. That is how it got started.

The Palestinains threw the first punch. And Israel gave you Arabs the West Bank as a sigh of peace. But apparently that isn't good enough. You guys just want Jews to not exist anymore. That is what it sounds like.

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However, I'm not in any way opposed to the idea of Jews simply living in what they regard as their ancestral homeland.

ShadowMoses900

You don't know anything.

First off no matter how you spin it, the Jews were there first. Yep it's true, and they didn't just "walk in", they bought land from the Arabs LEGALLY. Some of the Arabs had a problem with having Jewish neighbors, so they attacked them, the Jews then trying to defend themselves fought back. That is how it got started.

The Palestinains threw the first punch. And Israel gave you Arabs the West Bank as a sigh of peace. But apparently that isn't good enough. You guys just want Jews to not exist anymore. That is what it sounds like.

How is it evil to believe Jews deserve a home land? How is it evil to support people who have been persecuted since forever? How is it evil to support Israel and it's Democracy? How is it evil to support a Nation that values human rights and equality among genders and races? How is it evil to support a place where the Jewish culture, ethnicity, and religion can flourish?

ShadowMoses900

It's not evil it's how most countries were built, including muslim countries which were taken from Jewish and Christian lands. Muslims are just butthurt that their plan for non muslim lands to fall under Muslim control has been moving in the opposite direction due to Israel.

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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] right because they just simply walked into Palestine and lived peacefully? offtopics full of this.

BossPerson

You don't know anything.

First off no matter how you spin it, the Jews were there first. Yep it's true, and they didn't just "walk in", they bought land from the Arabs LEGALLY. Some of the Arabs had a problem with having Jewish neighbors, so they attacked them, the Jews then trying to defend themselves fought back. That is how it got started.

The Palestinains threw the first punch. And Israel gave you Arabs the West Bank as a sigh of peace. But apparently that isn't good enough. You guys just want Jews to not exist anymore. That is what it sounds like.

Why are Arabs not happy with the West Bank? They have it now, Israel gave it to them, the Arabs wanted it. So why are they not happy with it?

The West Bank was under Jewish control after the 6 day war. The Jews then gave it to the Arabs later. The West Bank is under Palestian control while the Gaza Strip is under Hamas control (who are terrorists, monsters, bad people, the world would be better off without Hamas).

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You don't know anything.

First off no matter how you spin it, the Jews were there first. Yep it's true, and they didn't just "walk in", they bought land from the Arabs LEGALLY. Some of the Arabs had a problem with having Jewish neighbors, so they attacked them, the Jews then trying to defend themselves fought back. That is how it got started.

The Palestinains threw the first punch. And Israel gave you Arabs the West Bank as a sigh of peace. But apparently that isn't good enough. You guys just want Jews to not exist anymore. That is what it sounds like.

ShadowMoses900

Why are Arabs not happy with the West Bank? They have it now, Israel gave it to them, the Arabs wanted it. So why are they not happy with it?

The West Bank was under Jewish control after the 6 day war. The Jews then gave it to the Arabs later. The West Bank is under Palestian control while the Gaza Strip is under Hamas control (who are terrorists, monsters, bad people, the world would be better off without Hamas).

Shut up you anti-Semitic. (Shadowmoses I mean)

I don't care either way. *shrugs*

As I said before and will say again, Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitism, without a doubt.

As I said before and will say again, Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitism, without a doubt.

kingkong0124

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However, I'm not in any way opposed to the idea of Jews simply living in what they regard as their ancestral homeland.

GrayF0X786

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Most experts on Antisemitism agree with me btw. And those are a very, very small minority.

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However, I'm not in any way opposed to the idea of Jews simply living in what they regard as their ancestral homeland.

cslayer211

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However, I'm not in any way opposed to the idea of Jews simply living in what they regard as their ancestral homeland.

cslayer211

Zionism implies political extremism while supporting the state of Israel.Zeviander

Zionists...... I'll keep my opinions for myself on this.FMAB_GTO

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"]Zionists...... I'll keep my opinions for myself on this.GrayF0X786

Meh.. the word "zionist" is usually apprehended that Jews are racially superior regardless of its true meaning.

How is it evil to support a Nation that values human rights and equality among genders and races?ShadowMoses900

You don't know anything.

First off no matter how you spin it, the Jews were there first. Yep it's true, and they didn't just "walk in", they bought land from the Arabs LEGALLY. ShadowMoses900

As I said before and will say again, Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitism, without a doubt.

kingkong0124

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What about those religious Jews that are opposed to Israel as a homeland of Jews?

As I said before and will say again, Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitism, without a doubt.

kingkong0124

As I've said before and will say again, you are an idiot, without a doubt.

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[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"]Zionists...... I'll keep my opinions for myself on this.FMAB_GTO

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As I said before and will say again, Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitism, without a doubt.

worlock77

As I've said before and will say again, you are an idiot, without a doubt.

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] staying neutral is the safe option on gamespot hehe.

GrayF0X786

[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] right because they just simply walked into Palestine and lived peacefully? offtopics full of this.champion837

So what do you want to do about it? Israel won it, there not going to give it back.

It would be like America giving back a majority of the United States to the Native Americans... it's just not plausible, also considering how much smaller Israel is.

I don't blame Israel for not wanting to give them land either, in Gaza they just shoot rockets at innocent civilians...

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Zionism implies political extremism while supporting the state of Israel.Uesugi-dono

Lol no it's not, that is just BS.

Zionism is simply believing the Jews should have a right to a homeland and supporting their right to live in peace and safety. Some would call it Jewish Nationalism, which I do not see a problem with either. Jews have a right to be proud of Israel just like Mexican Americans are still proud of their heritage and still celebrate Cinco De Maio. Sp?