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#1 slipknot0129
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Do you think science will ever prove how we came from nothing? How something came from nothing.

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#3  Edited By Master_Live
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Maybe Pluto holds the answer.

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#4 br0kenrabbit
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@slipknot0129 said:

Do you think science will ever prove how we came from nothing? How something came from nothing.

http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/proof-that-the-universe-could-have-come-from-nothing/

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#5 Drunk_PI
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Nothing is something.

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#6  Edited By Gaming-Planet
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Something intelligent designed the laws and ingredients to make life.

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#7 DaVillain  Moderator  Online
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Let's build ourselves a Time Machine to go back in time to find out the answers :-)

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#8  Edited By br0kenrabbit
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@Gaming-Planet said:

Something intelligent designed the laws and ingredients to make life.

So what designed that 'something intelligent'? Moving the goalposts doesn't answer the question.

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@br0kenrabbit said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

Something intelligent designed the laws and ingredients to make life.

So what designed that 'something intelligent'? Moving the goalposts doesn't answer the question.

Something no one can comprehend.

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@Gaming-Planet said:

Something no one can comprehend.

Oooooooooo.

No, seriously?

We've come from plastering hand-prints on cave walls to toying with subatomic particles at will. Just because some people have a mental block when it comes to observing and understanding reality doesn't mean we all suffer such an affliction.

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#11 Master_Live
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I see where this thread is headed. Leave Jesus H. Christ out of it!

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#12 schu
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Prove that there was ever nothing.

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@br0kenrabbit said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

Something intelligent designed the laws and ingredients to make life.

So what designed that 'something intelligent'? Moving the goalposts doesn't answer the question.

It could have always existed.

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#14  Edited By br0kenrabbit
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

It could have always existed.

And we all might be holograms. I would say there's just as much proof of both: nothing, but that would be ignoring the fact that the hologram theory actually stands up to scrutiny.

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@foxhound_fox said:

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#16 fenriz275
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@davillain- said:

Let's build ourselves a Time Machine to go back in time to find out the answers :-)

I think Futurama already did that.

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#17  Edited By lamprey263
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except we didn't come form nothing

but I'm probably going to listen to someone who attempts to make sense of it through hard science rather than just saying "god did it, now put your money in the bucket and vote republican"

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#18 -TheSecondSign-
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I don't know I'm not a space doctor or whatever.

But I'm not going to just assume some supernatural force did it because I don't immediately understand everything about the universe and it's beyond my personal comprehension.

That'd be like refusing to believe the toaster works by electricity because you don't understand everything about electricity. Just because I don't know how it works or gets to my house doesn't mean it was supernatural.

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#19 DrSpoon
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We came from 'energy' and we will return to 'energy'.

Or as Bill and Ted put it - 'all we are, is dust in the wind, dude'

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#20 fenriz275
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@br0kenrabbit said:
@slipknot0129 said:

Do you think science will ever prove how we came from nothing? How something came from nothing.

http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/proof-that-the-universe-could-have-come-from-nothing/

Science again for the bitchslap. Seriously folks put down the Doritos once in a while and read something other than the bible and you might learn something cool.

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@br0kenrabbit said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

Something no one can comprehend.

Oooooooooo.

No, seriously?

We've come from plastering hand-prints on cave walls to toying with subatomic particles at will. Just because some people have a mental block when it comes to observing and understanding reality doesn't mean we all suffer such an affliction.

We just don't have the tools to further observe, is what I'm saying.

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#22 SOedipus
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No no no no, we're all here and 'exist' just cause.

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@slipknot0129 said:

Do you think science will ever prove how we came from nothing? How something came from nothing.

in practicality, one can only prove things to a certain point

the scientific community may supply plausible theories, and back those theories up with hard data, but again, it only proves things to a certain point

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@foxhound_fox said:

nice one foxy

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#25 LexLas
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How can something come from nothing ? Come on man, lol .. We are all aliens. Don't you guys watch ancient aliens ? That show is the bomb ! Gods mixed with humans, and we was born. We all have secret powers.

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#26  Edited By Riverwolf007
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y'know... i'm sitting here... and i'm trying to salvage this topic with something funny, or topical or science-y and i am just absolutely drawing a blank.

no pithy little bon mots, no observations that make everyone uncomfortable while being almost impossible to deny.... nope, nothing.

so... we have totally proven it is impossible for something to come from nothing.

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#27 Maroxad
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First of all, define nothing.

While we do have potential explanations. We dont know much, if anything about the pre-big bang physics. Science doesnt have all the answers and the more we learn, the more we realize just how little we know.

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#29 SolidSnake35
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I came from an egg.

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#30 lostrib
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Man, OT hasn't had a good ol' evolution debate in a long time

how sad

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#31 -ParaNormaN-
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If you really want to get mind fucked, the oldest thing in existence is time. Is it even possible for anything to be here before time? When did time even start?

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@br0kenrabbit said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

Something intelligent designed the laws and ingredients to make life.

So what designed that 'something intelligent'? Moving the goalposts doesn't answer the question.

Maybe that intelligent something is so advanced, that it knew how to create itself, and knows how to always exist, and never needed some other more intelligent something to create said intelligent something.

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#33 br0kenrabbit
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@Toph_Girl250 said:

that it knew how to create itself

Listen to what you are saying. "It knew how to create itself without itself existing." Seriously.

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#34 DaVillain  Moderator  Online
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We came from nothing

No. We came as Romans.

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#35 Toph_Girl250
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@davillain- said:

We came from nothing

No. We came as Romans.

I do quite like learning history about the Roman Empire, fascinating. Also, Roman Gods/Goddesses rule! However, which is better, Greek Gods/Goddesses or Roman ones?

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#36  Edited By nigeriaforlife
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We came from out mother. If something could actually come from nothing we wouldn't need out mother right. Anybody see my point? Am I stupid?

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#37  Edited By deactivated-58061ea11c905
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I think that ultimately only a physicist who understands quantum mechanics, quantum field theory and general relativity very well can really answer the question: is it possible for something to come from nothing?

And several physicists such Lawrence Krauss actually believe that the entire universe could have sprung out of existence from absolutely nothing at all.

Take a look at this links:

https://www.astrosociety.org/publications/a-universe-from-nothing/

http://www.sciforums.com/threads/it-is-possible-for-matter-and-energy-to-come-from-nothing-also-why-is-there-something-rather-than.145385/

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#38 deactivated-58bd60b980002
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@Toph_Girl250: you know that at one point when Romans invaded Greek, they adopted their Gods but named them different names to be more Romans but they are the same in the end. Jupiter and Zeus are the same guy, Hephaestus is Vulcan, Aphrodite is Venus, Poseidon is Neptune etc

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Well, we came from sperm.

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#40 alim298
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The question doesn't make sense because:

@mjorh said:

Well, we came from sperm.

Yes, this.

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#41  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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Actually none of you really exist. I just imagine you. So I guess that's something out of nothing.

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#42 mrbojangles25
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@Master_Live said:

I see where this thread is headed. Leave Jesus H. Christ out of it!

Leave him alone! Leave Jesus alone!

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#43 mrbojangles25
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@alim298 said:

The question doesn't make sense because:

@mjorh said:

Well, we came from sperm.

Yes, this.

What about the egg, you woman-hating swine!

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whoops, it came back from the dead.