@Planeforger said:
For me, the classic "why do girls always date assholes and overlook me" nice guy isn't the recluse. Instead, he's the guy who actively tries to make himself look like the nicest guy in the world (but only for the girl he's after, obviously).
Whether it be repairing a computer without payment, giving a girl a lift halfway across the country, or even just staying up all night listening to her talk about her failing relationships...the "nice" guy will never make a move, either seem like the best asexual friend ever or a total creeper, and they'll inevitably rage about how terrible women are when their endless good deeds aren't rewarded with everlasting love and affection (or more specifically, sex).
Those sorts of guys simply don't understand that, if you're going out of your way to be specifically nice to someone (in the hopes that they'll notice how nice you are), then you're not really a nice guy.
Oh lord, ever so this. I have a friend, who I used to be close with (he's pretty much disappeared for some odd reason as of late), who only ever treated the woman of his affection with respect and treated her as this goddess and would literally do anything for her (she was moving to Toronto for work, and he was going to go with her, but she shut that down real quick).
Now, since then, he's been on a slight downward spiral, doing the same thing with other women, only it not lasting nearly as long, and ends up really hurting the women in the end.
Honestly, I used to think like this, till I experienced the "friendzone" as most call it... and decided from that moment on, I wouldn't be "the nice guy" anymore. I'd just respect all women equally and wait till I found the right person to invest myself in. No more than 6 months after that, I met the woman I've been with for a couple weeks short of 6 years now.
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