Time Travel. Into the future is impossible.

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#1 DrDoomed
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Theoretically you can travel backwards in time. I even think it possible. Travel with light or bend/warp it.

But, i believe time travel into the future (using this same methodology or realised instance) impossible. why?

Because your extrustiary static status, even while kinetic, is permanent. You are always physically trapped in the present.

Would you agree?

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#2 Matthew_Kaeser
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Have you ever considered that we are currently living in the past to an already existing future?
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Completely. Besides, whats the fun of going to the future if you miss the ride?
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I only understood four words...
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....what???? we can go back in time??? YAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!
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according to Einstein it is theoretically possible, time slows as you go faster. say im travelling at the speed of light roughly 180,000 miles per second, I would be going so fast that time would slow. Say 5 months would have passed on earth but only 3 weeks passed on the ship. it is possible it is just extremely difficult to understand and develop the technology to achieve this
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Did you ever think of the fact that we are already time traveling into the future? If you get up and walk out your door, you just time traveled. And the mere fact that if you build a ship that can go at the speed of light you can time travel, should be enough proof.
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Have you ever considered that we are currently living in the past to an already existing future?Matthew_Kaeser
thats destiny oriented parrallels :) time lines. maybe i planned ahead of time so you would ask that question. Or maybe u entered an alternate reality by reading this message
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[QUOTE="Apollo5000"]Did you ever think of the fact that we are already time traveling into the future? If you get up and walk out your door, you just time traveled. And the mere fact that if you build a ship that can go at the speed of light you can time travel, should be enough proof.

If time travels with u and u are never ahead of it how can u be in the future? when were u ahead of "time"?
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*eye twitches* What?
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#11 deactivated-583e5f64e0a7e
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I haven't done much research on it, but I have read the theoretically time travel backwards is possible, as you said. However, I also read that it would take more energy to do, then we can even comprehend.
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impossible? that's what they said about my flux capacitor.
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impossible? that's what they said about my flux capacitor.romocop33
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[QUOTE="DrDoomed"][QUOTE="Apollo5000"]Did you ever think of the fact that we are already time traveling into the future? If you get up and walk out your door, you just time traveled. And the mere fact that if you build a ship that can go at the speed of light you can time travel, should be enough proof.

If time travels with u and u are never ahead of it how can u be in the future? when were u ahead of "time"?

I never said you were going to travel into the future. I said you were time traveling. No matter what you do you are traveling through time, since time is progressively moving forward at a steady rate. If you travel you are travelling also at a steady rate along with time, hence you are both traveling. Also a Light speed Ship makes actual semi-ageless time travel possible.
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impossible? that's what they said about my flux capacitor.romocop33
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according to Einstein it is theoretically possible, time slows as you go faster. say im travelling at the speed of light roughly 180,000 miles per second, I would be going so fast that time would slow. Say 5 months would have passed on earth but only 3 weeks passed on the ship. it is possible it is just extremely difficult to understand and develop the technology to achieve thisUrbanSpartan125
I would have agreed. If time is considered as a man made form of universal kinetic measurement. In this case if you travel faster then what is considered "a clock", light, then you would be moving faster then all existence and time would no longer exist aye along with all matter? You can only go as fast as the substantiary matter carrying you but not ahead of it or..... u'd probably create the beginning of the universe :) gedit?
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[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"]according to Einstein it is theoretically possible, time slows as you go faster. say im travelling at the speed of light roughly 180,000 miles per second, I would be going so fast that time would slow. Say 5 months would have passed on earth but only 3 weeks passed on the ship. it is possible it is just extremely difficult to understand and develop the technology to achieve thisDrDoomed
I would have agreed. If time is considered as a man made form of universal kinetic measurement. In this case if you travel faster then what is considered "a clock", light, then you would be moving faster then all existence and time would no longer exist aye along with all matter? You can only go as fast as the substantiary matter carrying you but not ahead of it or..... u'd probably create the beginning of the universe :) gedit?

Time would still exist. It would just not apply the same to you. You would still feel like time applied to you the same way until you slowed down and seen that all your friends had aged dramatically while only weeks passed for you. This is of course assuming you left Earth, traveled at lightspeed for a week. Turned around, Traveled back to Earth for another week. In those 2 weeks, Years, if not Decades would have passed on Earth.
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[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"]according to Einstein it is theoretically possible, time slows as you go faster. say im travelling at the speed of light roughly 180,000 miles per second, I would be going so fast that time would slow. Say 5 months would have passed on earth but only 3 weeks passed on the ship. it is possible it is just extremely difficult to understand and develop the technology to achieve thisDrDoomed
I would have agreed. If time is considered as a man made form of universal kinetic measurement. In this case if you travel faster then what is considered "a clock", light, then you would be moving faster then all existence and time would no longer exist aye along with all matter? You can only go as fast as the substantiary matter carrying you but not ahead of it or..... u'd probably create the beginning of the universe :) gedit?

These things are far to complex for humans to understand at this moment, we have made significant achievements, things that were considered impossible 100 years ago have become part of our lives. Only "time" will tell how far we advance in the future. Where there is a will there is a way.
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[QUOTE="Apollo5000"][QUOTE="DrDoomed"][QUOTE="Apollo5000"]Did you ever think of the fact that we are already time traveling into the future? If you get up and walk out your door, you just time traveled. And the mere fact that if you build a ship that can go at the speed of light you can time travel, should be enough proof.

If time travels with u and u are never ahead of it how can u be in the future? when were u ahead of "time"?

I never said you were going to travel into the future. I said you were time traveling. No matter what you do you are traveling through time, since time is progressively moving forward at a steady rate. If you travel you are travelling also at a steady rate along with time, hence you are both traveling. Also a Light speed Ship makes actual semi-ageless time travel possible.

ok,ok lets split heirs. time doesnt actually exist only form and matter standing still in the same dimensional " space volume". substance and matter still move but they are not going forward in space-time or time-space (one or the other). So no we are not travelling through time only watching the movement of a rudimentry additional calculator
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Have you ever considered that we are currently living in the past to an already existing future?Matthew_Kaeser
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To travel back in time, you need every single atom in the whole world, and that includes the atoms in your computer, in your body, the floor, etc. To travel forward in time, you need net force and work.
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[QUOTE="DrDoomed"][QUOTE="Apollo5000"][QUOTE="DrDoomed"][QUOTE="Apollo5000"]Did you ever think of the fact that we are already time traveling into the future? If you get up and walk out your door, you just time traveled. And the mere fact that if you build a ship that can go at the speed of light you can time travel, should be enough proof.

If time travels with u and u are never ahead of it how can u be in the future? when were u ahead of "time"?

I never said you were going to travel into the future. I said you were time traveling. No matter what you do you are traveling through time, since time is progressively moving forward at a steady rate. If you travel you are travelling also at a steady rate along with time, hence you are both traveling. Also a Light speed Ship makes actual semi-ageless time travel possible.

ok,ok lets split heirs. time doesnt actually exist only form and matter standing still in the same dimensional " space volume". substance and matter still move but they are not going forward in space-time or time-space (one or the other). So no we are not travelling through time only watching the movement of a rudimentry additional calculator

Which in terms of POV which i've been taking this as, (which is really only the way you can experience Time Travel as a person) is something that does apply heavily to the way that the world works. The measurement of time is an invention of man yes. But the actual event exists (obviously) hence everything doesn't happen at once.
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I only understood four words...AnimeKiller
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[QUOTE="DrDoomed"][QUOTE="Apollo5000"][QUOTE="DrDoomed"][QUOTE="Apollo5000"]Did you ever think of the fact that we are already time traveling into the future? If you get up and walk out your door, you just time traveled. And the mere fact that if you build a ship that can go at the speed of light you can time travel, should be enough proof.

If time travels with u and u are never ahead of it how can u be in the future? when were u ahead of "time"?

I never said you were going to travel into the future. I said you were time traveling. No matter what you do you are traveling through time, since time is progressively moving forward at a steady rate. If you travel you are travelling also at a steady rate along with time, hence you are both traveling. Also a Light speed Ship makes actual semi-ageless time travel possible.

ok,ok lets split heirs. time doesnt actually exist only form and matter standing still in the same dimensional " space volume". substance and matter still move but they are not going forward in space-time or time-space (one or the other). So no we are not travelling through time only watching the movement of a rudimentry additional calculator

Yes we are; everything that exists is moving through spacetime at a uniform velocity of c (lightspeed). Movement through space bleeds off motion through time, as governed by the simple formula: Where are you getting the pseudoscientific weirdness that you are spouting?
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according to the scientists on the Colbert Report Time travel into the future is impossible
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[QUOTE="DrDoomed"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"]according to Einstein it is theoretically possible, time slows as you go faster. say im travelling at the speed of light roughly 180,000 miles per second, I would be going so fast that time would slow. Say 5 months would have passed on earth but only 3 weeks passed on the ship. it is possible it is just extremely difficult to understand and develop the technology to achieve thisApollo5000
I would have agreed. If time is considered as a man made form of universal kinetic measurement. In this case if you travel faster then what is considered "a clock", light, then you would be moving faster then all existence and time would no longer exist aye along with all matter? You can only go as fast as the substantiary matter carrying you but not ahead of it or..... u'd probably create the beginning of the universe :) gedit?

Time would still exist. It would just not apply the same to you. You would still feel like time applied to you the same way until you slowed down and seen that all your friends had aged dramatically while only weeks passed for you. This is of course assuming you left Earth, traveled at lightspeed for a week. Turned around, Traveled back to Earth for another week. In those 2 weeks, Years, if not Decades would have passed on Earth.

You using that atomic cock aeroplane thingy right? It is a good experiment but that is alittle behind if i'm not mistaken. Like another guy said science hasnt come very far considering these theories. But still, we havn't fully realised the effect of gravitational magnetic feilds on atoms,cellular levels or other particles. If i'm correct things go backwards in such a way (eg. nova to brown dwarfs) that energy is transformed into new constituants. That is dealing with magnificent gravity feilds and matter,anti-matter relations.
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but its 2:50 am here and i gotta go.
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You using that atomic cock aeroplane thingy right? It is a good experiment but that is alittle behind if i'm not mistaken. Like another guy said science hasnt come very far considering these theories. But still, we havn't fully realised the effect of gravitational magnetic feilds on atoms,cellular levels or other particles. If i'm correct things go backwards in such a way (eg. nova to brown dwarfs) that energy is transformed into new constituants. That is dealing with magnificent gravity feilds and matter,anti-matter relations.DrDoomed
Time dilation has also been verified by seeing greatly extended lifespans of exotic particles generated in accelerators. There hasn't been a "gravitational magnetic field" in the universe in about 15 billion years (since about a billionth of a second after the Big Bang). Since the, nowhere in the universe has been sufficiently energetic to unite gravity with the other forces. Your claims seem to be based on throwing around terminology of science with no understanding of the actual underlying principles.
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it would be the past because we had no future yet.
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[QUOTE="Apollo5000"][QUOTE="DrDoomed"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"]according to Einstein it is theoretically possible, time slows as you go faster. say im travelling at the speed of light roughly 180,000 miles per second, I would be going so fast that time would slow. Say 5 months would have passed on earth but only 3 weeks passed on the ship. it is possible it is just extremely difficult to understand and develop the technology to achieve thisDrDoomed
I would have agreed. If time is considered as a man made form of universal kinetic measurement. In this case if you travel faster then what is considered "a clock", light, then you would be moving faster then all existence and time would no longer exist aye along with all matter? You can only go as fast as the substantiary matter carrying you but not ahead of it or..... u'd probably create the beginning of the universe :) gedit?

Time would still exist. It would just not apply the same to you. You would still feel like time applied to you the same way until you slowed down and seen that all your friends had aged dramatically while only weeks passed for you. This is of course assuming you left Earth, traveled at lightspeed for a week. Turned around, Traveled back to Earth for another week. In those 2 weeks, Years, if not Decades would have passed on Earth.

You using that atomic cock aeroplane thingy right? It is a good experiment but that is alittle behind if i'm not mistaken. Like another guy said science hasnt come very far considering these theories. But still, we havn't fully realised the effect of gravitational magnetic feilds on atoms,cellular levels or other particles. If i'm correct things go backwards in such a way (eg. nova to brown dwarfs) that energy is transformed into new constituants. That is dealing with magnificent gravity feilds and matter,anti-matter relations.

The what now? Well even giving that there is such an experiment that has both a very racy name and applys to what i was saying. Thats not the reason for my saying this. Black Holes for example have proved that for the object moving through the hole, time out with it apparently comes to a stand still, until the object comes out the other end. Not sure if they've actually tested it, but i'm sure just watching an object pass through would be enough. The energy that is released when a Star goes supernova theoretically powerful enough to travel back in time with. But harnessing such power as that and using it as a one way ticket to travel backwards doesn't really seem like a wise move. One tiny miscalculation on the smallest scale could mean that a Super Nova is about to wipe you out. Even so using the Super Nova as a "ticket" so to speak, you would still need a vessel that can reach the speed of light to make it applicable.
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Your wrong....it ISpossible. Haveint you ever seen Bill & Teds Excellent Adventure???


Pfffftttt....idiot.
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="DrDoomed"][QUOTE="Apollo5000"][QUOTE="DrDoomed"][QUOTE="Apollo5000"]Did you ever think of the fact that we are already time traveling into the future? If you get up and walk out your door, you just time traveled. And the mere fact that if you build a ship that can go at the speed of light you can time travel, should be enough proof.

If time travels with u and u are never ahead of it how can u be in the future? when were u ahead of "time"?

I never said you were going to travel into the future. I said you were time traveling. No matter what you do you are traveling through time, since time is progressively moving forward at a steady rate. If you travel you are travelling also at a steady rate along with time, hence you are both traveling. Also a Light speed Ship makes actual semi-ageless time travel possible.

ok,ok lets split heirs. time doesnt actually exist only form and matter standing still in the same dimensional " space volume". substance and matter still move but they are not going forward in space-time or time-space (one or the other). So no we are not travelling through time only watching the movement of a rudimentry additional calculator

Yes we are; everything that exists is moving through spacetime at a uniform velocity of c (lightspeed). Movement through space bleeds off motion through time, as governed by the simple formula: Where are you getting the pseudoscientific weirdness that you are spouting?

Space time is interdimensional yet transient. can that make any sense to you? It's looked at as if its a solid object. Like paper. space-volume is the invisible space that holds all the matter and forces contained to the ends of the universe as it continues to expand. its sort of like the nothingness beyond that, that contains it. Beyond the bounds of the universe there is no space time. therefore it can be argued that by deobjectifying it, it no longer exists on its own. So what i'm saying is if time can exist in nothingness then it is uniform. Otherwise go home. i'm off to bed.
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Actually, time travel into the future is possible, and that is accepted widely. Take for example the famous plane and watch experiment. Time travel back in time is considered impossible by most scientists. You have it backwards.
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[QUOTE="DrDoomed"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="DrDoomed"][QUOTE="Apollo5000"][QUOTE="DrDoomed"][QUOTE="Apollo5000"]Did you ever think of the fact that we are already time traveling into the future? If you get up and walk out your door, you just time traveled. And the mere fact that if you build a ship that can go at the speed of light you can time travel, should be enough proof.

If time travels with u and u are never ahead of it how can u be in the future? when were u ahead of "time"?

I never said you were going to travel into the future. I said you were time traveling. No matter what you do you are traveling through time, since time is progressively moving forward at a steady rate. If you travel you are travelling also at a steady rate along with time, hence you are both traveling. Also a Light speed Ship makes actual semi-ageless time travel possible.

ok,ok lets split heirs. time doesnt actually exist only form and matter standing still in the same dimensional " space volume". substance and matter still move but they are not going forward in space-time or time-space (one or the other). So no we are not travelling through time only watching the movement of a rudimentry additional calculator

Yes we are; everything that exists is moving through spacetime at a uniform velocity of c (lightspeed). Movement through space bleeds off motion through time, as governed by the simple formula: Where are you getting the pseudoscientific weirdness that you are spouting?

Space time is interdimensional yet transient. can that make any sense to you? It's looked at as if its a solid object. Like paper. space-volume is the invisible space that holds all the matter and forces contained to the ends of the universe as it continues to expand. its sort of like the nothingness beyond that, that contains it. Beyond the bounds of the universe there is no space time. therefore it can be argued that by deobjectifying it, it no longer exists on its own. So what i'm saying is if time can exist in nothingness then it is uniform. Otherwise go home. i'm off to bed.

Time cannot exist in nothingness and requires matter and energy to give it definition, as does space; hence, spacetime. What are you trying to say and where are you getting this stuff? It all reads like something written by a career tweaker :\
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[QUOTE="DrDoomed"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="DrDoomed"][QUOTE="Apollo5000"][QUOTE="DrDoomed"][QUOTE="Apollo5000"]Did you ever think of the fact that we are already time traveling into the future? If you get up and walk out your door, you just time traveled. And the mere fact that if you build a ship that can go at the speed of light you can time travel, should be enough proof.

If time travels with u and u are never ahead of it how can u be in the future? when were u ahead of "time"?

I never said you were going to travel into the future. I said you were time traveling. No matter what you do you are traveling through time, since time is progressively moving forward at a steady rate. If you travel you are travelling also at a steady rate along with time, hence you are both traveling. Also a Light speed Ship makes actual semi-ageless time travel possible.

ok,ok lets split heirs. time doesnt actually exist only form and matter standing still in the same dimensional " space volume". substance and matter still move but they are not going forward in space-time or time-space (one or the other). So no we are not travelling through time only watching the movement of a rudimentry additional calculator

Yes we are; everything that exists is moving through spacetime at a uniform velocity of c (lightspeed). Movement through space bleeds off motion through time, as governed by the simple formula: Where are you getting the pseudoscientific weirdness that you are spouting?

Space time is interdimensional yet transient. can that make any sense to you? It's looked at as if its a solid object. Like paper. space-volume is the invisible space that holds all the matter and forces contained to the ends of the universe as it continues to expand. its sort of like the nothingness beyond that, that contains it. Beyond the bounds of the universe there is no space time. therefore it can be argued that by deobjectifying it, it no longer exists on its own. So what i'm saying is if time can exist in nothingness then it is uniform. Otherwise go home. i'm off to bed.

I see you just turned this into a "If you don't agree with me i don't care what you think" situation :P
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you cant go back in time, that stuff already happened