There's No Such Thing as an 'Illegal Alien' by Marc Stevens

There's an incredible amount of energy expended on the subject of so-called "illegal aliens." These are men, women and children who allegedly are not in the "country" "legally." People who think they're "citizens" believe physical force may be used against "illegal aliens" to cage them and send them back to their "country." This use of physical violence is called "deportation." One of the biggest complaints about these so-called "illegals" is how much they cost "citizens" and "taxpayers" in welfare and other "social programs." However, just as it's a myth there's a "country" or "nation" called the "United States," there's no such thing as an "illegal alien." They're all part of the government hoax.

To prove there's no such thing as an "illegal alien," one needs to examine what a "nation" or "country" is. A "nation," such as the pretended "United States," is supposed to be a "voluntary association of individuals." The mere fact physical violence is used to "deport" so-called "illegals" contradicts the professed "voluntary" nature of a "nation.

While "illegal aliens" are not real, violent, anti-social men and women pretending to be "states" are. Buying into the illusion that there are "states" and "nations" only diverts attention from what these professional parasites are doing, i.e., killing, stealing and lying.

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http://www.strike-the-root.com/4/stevens/stevens4.html

I'm Native American, so by the majority's logic. Most Americans are all illegal aliens. I don't even want to get into the double standards that the government makes in it's favor.Boba_Fett_3710

The mere fact physical violence is used to "deport" so-called "illegals" contradicts the professed "voluntary" nature of a "nation.X4D

That's not a contradiciton. What a silly article.

I'm particularly fond of the excessive use of quotations. It's like something out of a Chris Farley sketch.

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]I'm Native American, so by the majority's logic. Most Americans are all illegal aliens. I don't even want to get into the double standards that the government makes in it's favor.bman784

That's funny. After learning Japanese and Spanish, I realize that English is a horribly structured language.

I'm Native American, so by the majority's logic. Most Americans are all illegal aliens. I don't even want to get into the double standards that the government makes in it's favor.Boba_Fett_3710

If we're getting technical here, even Native Americans aren't native to America. Your ancestors crossed the Russia/Alaska land-bridge thousands of years ago and never looked back.

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]I'm Native American, so by the majority's logic. Most Americans are all illegal aliens. I don't even want to get into the double standards that the government makes in it's favor.Video_Game_King

If we're getting technical here, even Native Americans aren't native to America. Your ancestors crossed the Russia/Alaska land-bridge thousands of years ago and never looked back.

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]I'm Native American, so by the majority's logic. Most Americans are all illegal aliens. I don't even want to get into the double standards that the government makes in it's favor.Video_Game_King

If we're getting technical here, even Native Americans aren't native to America. Your ancestors crossed the Russia/Alaska land-bridge thousands of years ago and never looked back.

So if the Bering Straight melted, how were we supposed to go back?

Besides Native Americans followed the migration of the bison. After the bison population was slaughtered for sport, there wasn't anything left to do but assimilate into a culture that didn't want us.

[QUOTE="X4D"]The mere fact physical violence is used to "deport" so-called "illegals" contradicts the professed "voluntary" nature of a "nation.Oleg_Huzwog

That's not a contradiciton. What a silly article.

I'm particularly fond of the excessive use of quotations. It's like something out of a Chris Farley sketch.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]I'm Native American, so by the majority's logic. Most Americans are all illegal aliens. I don't even want to get into the double standards that the government makes in it's favor.bman784

If we're getting technical here, even Native Americans aren't native to America. Your ancestors crossed the Russia/Alaska land-bridge thousands of years ago and never looked back.

shhh the trees will hear you, and then.......THE HAPPENING!

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]I'm Native American, so by the majority's logic. Most Americans are all illegal aliens. I don't even want to get into the double standards that the government makes in it's favor.bman784

If we're getting technical here, even Native Americans aren't native to America. Your ancestors crossed the Russia/Alaska land-bridge thousands of years ago and never looked back.

What about legal immigrants, like those whose ancestors went through Ellis Island? And the Native-but-not-Native Americans can stay :P. Everyone else, get out. Unless you're a Pilgrim. Or a tree. Or a squirrel :P.

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"][QUOTE="X4D"]The mere fact physical violence is used to "deport" so-called "illegals" contradicts the professed "voluntary" nature of a "nation.FragStains

That's not a contradiciton. What a silly article.

I'm particularly fond of the excessive use of quotations. It's like something out of a Chris Farley sketch.

One of the biggest complaints about these so-called "illegals" is how much they cost "citizens" and "taxpayers" in welfare and other "social programs." However, just as it's a myth there's a "country" or "nation" called the "United States," there's no such thing as an "illegal alien."X4D

More silliness! I like the way he follows the "one of the biggest complaints" sentence with a "however" statement, thus implying he will provide something to refute the complaint. But no!

Old defenitions are OOOOOLD. Illegal aliens are a problem, and they know they shouldn't be leaping fences to live in America. What right do they have to say we're wrong for enforcing a very obvious law? Using extremely dated defenitions on what a nation is won't change what a nation is in today's world.

Old defenitions are OOOOOLD. Illegal aliens are a problem, and they know they shouldn't be leaping fences to live in America. What right do they have to say we're wrong for enforcing a very obvious law?

kittykatz5k

But why is it so obvious?

I'm Native American, so by the majority's logic. Most Americans are all illegal aliens. I don't even want to get into the double standards that the government makes in it's favor.Boba_Fett_3710

Sounds like a bleeding heart liberal.

The nation rules by the consent of the governed, if the people want illegal aliens out of their nation, then the government has the right to deport these people.

Let's not kid ourselves, countries, and illegal aliens, exist.

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]I'm Native American, so by the majority's logic. Most Americans are all illegal aliens. I don't even want to get into the double standards that the government makes in it's favor.Jamiemydearx3

Of course not, the government actually worked.

[QUOTE="kittykatz5k"]

Old defenitions are OOOOOLD. Illegal aliens are a problem, and they know they shouldn't be leaping fences to live in America. What right do they have to say we're wrong for enforcing a very obvious law?

X4D

But why is it so obvious?

There's fences and guards all along the border to catch you. You don't jsut accidently stroll through that and end up in america by accident, you know you're doing something illegal, whether you can speak english or not.

[QUOTE="kittykatz5k"]

Old defenitions are OOOOOLD. Illegal aliens are a problem, and they know they shouldn't be leaping fences to live in America. What right do they have to say we're wrong for enforcing a very obvious law?

X4D

But why is it so obvious?

Why is what so obvious? The necessity of the law? Or the simple existence of the law?

As far as i know all immigration laws are based on the same economic concept: A nation and its people should benefit economically from the immigration and the immigrants should not be a leech on society. States don't want immigrants that they'll have to financially support with their people's taxes and other social welfare services. They claim that unskilled immigrants take jobs which could have been available to unskilled native workers. Poor immigrants also make heavy use of social welfare systems, and overload public education, while not returning anything to their economy through taxes.

Countries can't afford a drastic increase in population. If they would let everyone in their country, people from all over the third world (poor countries) will come. Many people want to come to richer and bigger countries where they will have a better life.

I've heard tell that it's a heck of a lot easier for a european to get citizenship or work visa than it is a mexican, even with all else being equal. Can anybody confirm/deny this?Mr_sprinkles

With all else being equal? I want to deny that, and contend the burden of proof lies with those who wish to confirm it. An educated European that can speak English should have just as easy a time legally entering the country as an educated Mexican that can speak English. Likewise, an uneducated European that can't speak English should have just as difficult a time as an uneducated Mexican that can't speak English.