[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]That's what happens when such a high percentage of the population lives off the government. KC_HokieBecause income equality wasn't an issue during the gilded age and industrial revolution. Amirite?20% of the population wasn't completely dependent on government like today. Ok. What does that have to do with what I said? This is when the entire population wasn't dependent on the government for money and were dirt fvcking poor working in factories (This includes children). You act as if inequality wouldn't exist if the welfare state didn't exist, which is complete horseshlt to begin with.
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That's what happens when such a high percentage of the population lives off the government. KC_Hokie.
That's what happens when such a high percentage of the population lives off the government. KC_HokieObvious troll and/or retard post. The vast majority of people "living" off the government are the disabled, elderly, and some students.
20% of the population wasn't completely dependent on government like today. Ok. What does that have to do with what I said? This is when the entire population wasn't dependent on the government for money and were dirt fvcking poor working in factories (This includes children). You act as if inequality wouldn't exist if the welfare state didn't exist, which is complete horseshlt to begin with.Too many people dependent on government and live multiple generations on welfare. Currently 20% of our population lives off the government. We now have a welfare class of citizens and that's terrible.[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] Because income equality wasn't an issue during the gilded age and industrial revolution. Amirite?HoolaHoopMan
Obvious troll and/or retard post. The vast majority of people "living" off the government are the disabled, elderly, and some students. Not true at all. Poverty threshold in the U.S. is high compared to rest of the world ($24,000).[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]That's what happens when such a high percentage of the population lives off the government. Aljosa23
[QUOTE="bookwormwizard"]Workers in the field are a dime a dozen, people who change the world are not. I find it hard to believe that Bill Gates created windows and brought computers into the living room and made it easy to use and changed the world but people still think he has not done his fair share, its people who think like this who are the selfish ones. Yea, even though bill gates helped create millions of jobs, made a great product that almost everyone uses, and changed things in more ways then I can count, its still not good enough. Besides, you do realize the only reason Bill Gates is rich is because the people bought his stuff, they should blame themselves, but they keep giving there money to rich people don't they? Cause they HAVE to have that I-phone right? then after they enjoy it, they complain that Steve Jobs has to much money, which is the same thing as complaining that you had to pay for what you bought. Freaking stupid. Microsoft also monopolized the computer market using shady tactics and FUD. many people think M$ was actually harmful for an industry that could have thrived if more options were available. Just because someone makes a popular product doesn't mean he is a saint or should be treated as superior. There are many people out there who spend their lives doing great things without much compensation and they don't even complain. There's research that shows that a big percentage of ceos have psychopathic tendencies. Psychopaths are highly individualistic, they don't lack perseverance and can be very good at what they do. the disturbing thing is that we live in a society that champions and award those traits over any others and, therefore, people like psychopaths can thrive. But this same society doesn't compensate in equal footing other traits that could be better like collaboration, solidarity, altruism. A society whose desirable traits can be found in psychopaths is not a society with a very brigth future since it isn't an actual society in the first place.[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Why should one earn so much more than the other? The programmer needs the field worker to get food to survive and the field worker needs the programmer to engineer solutions for better services that benefit the field worker too. When we realize qr live in a society and not isolated from each other we'll understand why a society with big inequality basically will never work well.kuraimen
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If Microsoft broke any laws or did anything wrong, they should be held accountable, but being a saint has nothing to do with anything. Letting someone keep what they earn has nothing to do with if you think they are a saint or not. As for psychopathic tendencies, having a few traits of a psychopath does not make you a psychopath. For instance, psychopaths are charming, oh my gosh I know someone who is charming, they must be a psychopath! Its horrible that we live in a society that likes charming people, I mean its a psychopathic tendency. By the way, the fact that you think its bad for a society to thrive by perseverance makes me think you just don't want to work.
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 There are lots of desirable traits that can be found in psychopaths that are good, just like you can find desirable traits in autistic children, like some of them tend to be very good at things like playing music and such. We should never desire our children to be autistic, But that does not mean we should not desire them to be good at music. We should not desire for people to be psychopaths, but that does not mean some of the traits they have are not desirable. These traits exist in people who are not psychopaths and are not wrong. Perseverance is good, never giving up is good, there is nothing wrong with this. Show me a society that is still around today that does not thrive on perseverance, do you want to be like them?
[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]Ok. What does that have to do with what I said? This is when the entire population wasn't dependent on the government for money and were dirt fvcking poor working in factories (This includes children). You act as if inequality wouldn't exist if the welfare state didn't exist, which is complete horseshlt to begin with.Too many people dependent on government and live multiple generations on welfare. Currently 20% of our population lives off the government. We now have a welfare class of citizens and that's terrible. Again, irrelevant to my post and the topic of inequality. Dumb and a pvssy who can't keep a bet.[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]20% of the population wasn't completely dependent on government like today.KC_Hokie
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Obvious troll and/or retard post. The vast majority of people "living" off the government are the disabled, elderly, and some students. Not true at all. Poverty threshold in the U.S. is high compared to rest of the world ($24,000). Okay? That doesn't mean everyone living near or under that is abusing government support. Unless you have proof to back that up...but you don't...because you're a troll.[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]That's what happens when such a high percentage of the population lives off the government. KC_Hokie
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] Ok. What does that have to do with what I said? This is when the entire population wasn't dependent on the government for money and were dirt fvcking poor working in factories (This includes children). You act as if inequality wouldn't exist if the welfare state didn't exist, which is complete horseshlt to begin with.HoolaHoopManToo many people dependent on government and live multiple generations on welfare. Currently 20% of our population lives off the government. We now have a welfare class of citizens and that's terrible. Again, irrelevant to my post and the topic of inequality. Dumb and a pvssy who can't keep a bet. Of course it's relevant when such a high percentage live off the government.
[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Too many people dependent on government and live multiple generations on welfare. Currently 20% of our population lives off the government. We now have a welfare class of citizens and that's terrible.KC_HokieAgain, irrelevant to my post and the topic of inequality. Dumb and a pvssy who can't keep a bet. Of course it's relevant when such a high percentage live off the government. I don't even...fvck it I'm done. I forgot who I responded too. Get me a graph for crying out loud.
Not true at all. Poverty threshold in the U.S. is high compared to rest of the world ($24,000). Okay? That doesn't mean everyone living near or under that is abusing government support. Unless you have proof to back that up...but you don't...because you're a troll. We have a high poverty threshold in which 20% of our population takes advantage of. Our government has created a whole class of people dependent on government for their income and their children inherit that system. Number of people on welfare is going up not down over time.[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Obvious troll and/or retard post. The vast majority of people "living" off the government are the disabled, elderly, and some students.
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Okay? That doesn't mean everyone living near or under that is abusing government support. Unless you have proof to back that up...but you don't...because you're a troll. We have a high poverty threshold in which 20% of our population takes advantage of. Our government has created a whole class of people dependent on government for their income and their children inherit that system. Number of people on welfare is going up not down over time.You're literally repeating yourself now. lol[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"] Not true at all. Poverty threshold in the U.S. is high compared to rest of the world ($24,000). KC_Hokie
We have a high poverty threshold in which 20% of our population takes advantage of. Our government has created a whole class of people dependent on government for their income and their children inherit that system. Number of people on welfare is going up not down over time.You're literally repeating yourself now. lolIt's a huge problem for society even if you don't think it is.[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Okay? That doesn't mean everyone living near or under that is abusing government support. Unless you have proof to back that up...but you don't...because you're a troll.
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Our government has created a whole class of people dependent on government for their income and their children inherit that system. Number of people on welfare is going up not down over time.KC_HokieIs it the government's fault or the businesses? Also some food for thought: Contrary to "Entitlement Society" Rhetoric, Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Our government has created a whole class of people dependent on government for their income and their children inherit that system. Number of people on welfare is going up not down over time.General_XIs it the government's fault or the businesses? Also some food for thought: Contrary to "Entitlement Society" Rhetoric, Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households 20% of the population takes advantage of the system. A huge percentage either don't work and never have or work and don't report that income so they still receive the welfare checks.
[QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Our government has created a whole class of people dependent on government for their income and their children inherit that system. Number of people on welfare is going up not down over time.KC_HokieIs it the government's fault or the businesses? Also some food for thought: Contrary to "Entitlement Society" Rhetoric, Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households 20% of the population takes advantage of the system. A huge percentage either don't work and never have or work and don't report that income so they still receive the welfare checks. Proof?
20% of the population takes advantage of the system. A huge percentage either don't work and never have or work and don't report that income so they still receive the welfare checks. Proof? Percentage of people who live their whole lives on welfare or constantly on and off. Remember welfare was created for a temporary period during hard times and it's being abused by 20% of the population.[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="General_X"]Is it the government's fault or the businesses? Also some food for thought: Contrary to "Entitlement Society" Rhetoric, Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households Aljosa23
[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]That's what happens when such a high percentage of the population lives off the government. KC_HokieBecause income equality wasn't an issue during the gilded age and industrial revolution. Amirite?20% of the population wasn't completely dependent on government like today.
 No instead we had large portions where entire families lived in single rooms and they were workign 12 to 16 hour shifts in dangerous and back breaking work.. Kids were also used as labor during then..  How can some one be so stupid in trying to compare the two?  Accept your shame and leave Gamespot forever, like you promised.
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Proof? Percentage of people who live their whole lives on welfare or constantly on and off. Remember welfare was created for a temporary period during hard times and it's being abused by 20% of the population. Yes, my uncle with down syndrome sure is abusing the system. Damn him![QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]20% of the population takes advantage of the system. A huge percentage either don't work and never have or work and don't report that income so they still receive the welfare checks. KC_Hokie
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Proof?HoolaHoopManPercentage of people who live their whole lives on welfare or constantly on and off. Remember welfare was created for a temporary period during hard times and it's being abused by 20% of the population. Yes, my uncle with down syndrome sure is abusing the system. Damn him!The percentage of down syndrome hasn't increased over time like the percentage and number of people dependent on government.
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Proof? Percentage of people who live their whole lives on welfare or constantly on and off. Remember welfare was created for a temporary period during hard times and it's being abused by 20% of the population.Do you have anything to support this claim? of course not[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]20% of the population takes advantage of the system. A huge percentage either don't work and never have or work and don't report that income so they still receive the welfare checks. KC_Hokie
20% of the population wasn't completely dependent on government like today.[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] Because income equality wasn't an issue during the gilded age and industrial revolution. Amirite?sSubZerOo
 No instead we had large portions where entire families lived in single rooms and they were workign 12 to 16 hour shifts in dangerous and back breaking work.. Kids were also used as labor during then..  How can some one be so stupid in trying to compare the two?  Accept your shame and leave Gamespot forever, like you promised.
We didn't have a welfare state like this back in the 50s where there were basic protections for workers. Stupid to compare 2013 to 1900.Percentage of people who live their whole lives on welfare or constantly on and off. Remember welfare was created for a temporary period during hard times and it's being abused by 20% of the population.Do you have anything to support this claim? of course not The increase in percentage and number....unless you believe the number of mentally retarded people and disabled rises over time.[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Proof?
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] Yes, my uncle with down syndrome sure is abusing the system. Damn him!HoolaHoopManThe percentage of down syndrome hasn't increased over time like the percentage and number of people dependent on government. Still ignoring the fact that most people on welfare are elderly or disabled I see. That 20% are 100% dependent on government. So that figure doesn't include the average retired person. And obviously there isn't a disability crisis growing over time.
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]20% of the population wasn't completely dependent on government like today.KC_Hokie
 No instead we had large portions where entire families lived in single rooms and they were workign 12 to 16 hour shifts in dangerous and back breaking work.. Kids were also used as labor during then..  How can some one be so stupid in trying to compare the two?  Accept your shame and leave Gamespot forever, like you promised.
We didn't have a welfare state like this back in the 50s where there were basic protections for workers. Stupid to compare 2013 to 1900.:lol: Â We also had huge tax rates for corporations... Â The wealth gap was small compared to where it is now.. Are you trying to suggest we should raise our taxes by using the 1950s?
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Proof? Percentage of people who live their whole lives on welfare or constantly on and off. Remember welfare was created for a temporary period during hard times and it's being abused by 20% of the population. I couldn't help but notice that you didn't provide any proof, or even evidence, in your post as was requested.[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]20% of the population takes advantage of the system. A huge percentage either don't work and never have or work and don't report that income so they still receive the welfare checks. KC_Hokie
Still ignoring the fact that most people on welfare are elderly or disabled I see. That 20% are 100% dependent on government. So that figure doesn't include the average retired person. And obviously there isn't a disability crisis growing over time. Disabled people existed in the past at the same degree. The difference being we just said 'fvck it' and let them rot in many cases.[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]The percentage of down syndrome hasn't increased over time like the percentage and number of people dependent on government.KC_Hokie
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]That 20% are 100% dependent on government. So that figure doesn't include the average retired person. And obviously there isn't a disability crisis growing over time. Disabled people existed in the past at the same degree. The difference being we just said 'fvck it' and let them rot in many cases. You can't be serious. Millions of people aren't all of a sudden 'disabled'.[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] Still ignoring the fact that most people on welfare are elderly or disabled I see. HoolaHoopMan
Microsoft also monopolized the computer market using shady tactics and FUD. many people think M$ was actually harmful for an industry that could have thrived if more options were available. Just because someone makes a popular product doesn't mean he is a saint or should be treated as superior. There are many people out there who spend their lives doing great things without much compensation and they don't even complain. There's research that shows that a big percentage of ceos have psychopathic tendencies. Psychopaths are highly individualistic, they don't lack perseverance and can be very good at what they do. the disturbing thing is that we live in a society that champions and award those traits over any others and, therefore, people like psychopaths can thrive. But this same society doesn't compensate in equal footing other traits that could be better like collaboration, solidarity, altruism. A society whose desirable traits can be found in psychopaths is not a society with a very brigth future since it isn't an actual society in the first place.[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="bookwormwizard"] Workers in the field are a dime a dozen, people who change the world are not. I find it hard to believe that Bill Gates created windows and brought computers into the living room and made it easy to use and changed the world but people still think he has not done his fair share, its people who think like this who are the selfish ones. Yea, even though bill gates helped create millions of jobs, made a great product that almost everyone uses, and changed things in more ways then I can count, its still not good enough. Besides, you do realize the only reason Bill Gates is rich is because the people bought his stuff, they should blame themselves, but they keep giving there money to rich people don't they? Cause they HAVE to have that I-phone right? then after they enjoy it, they complain that Steve Jobs has to much money, which is the same thing as complaining that you had to pay for what you bought. Freaking stupid.
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If Microsoft broke any laws or did anything wrong, they should be held accountable, but being a saint has nothing to do with anything. Letting someone keep what they earn has nothing to do with if you think they are a saint or not. As for psychopathic tendencies, having a few traits of a psychopath does not make you a psychopath. For instance, psychopaths are charming, oh my gosh I know someone who is charming, they must be a psychopath! Its horrible that we live in a society that likes charming people, I mean its a psychopathic tendency. By the way, the fact that you think its bad for a society to thrive by perseverance makes me think you just don't want to work.
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 There are lots of desirable traits that can be found in psychopaths that are good, just like you can find desirable traits in autistic children, like some of them tend to be very good at things like playing music and such. We should never desire our children to be autistic, But that does not mean we should not desire them to be good at music. We should not desire for people to be psychopaths, but that does not mean some of the traits they have are not desirable. These traits exist in people who are not psychopaths and are not wrong. Perseverance is good, never giving up is good, there is nothing wrong with this. Show me a society that is still around today that does not thrive on perseverance, do you want to be like them?
That psychopaths have those traits doesn't mean only psychopaths can have them but they're characteristic of psychopaths. Probably the most harmful being the lack of empathy which translates into more individualism. That one is not a desirable trait for a society and definitely not for the leaders of the society and people calling the shots. Sure we have psychopaths, but at least we shouldn't be putting them in power and money is power.[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Proof?Percentage of people who live their whole lives on welfare or constantly on and off. Remember welfare was created for a temporary period during hard times and it's being abused by 20% of the population. I couldn't help but notice that you didn't provide any proof, or even evidence, in your post as was requested.I've asked him numerous times but he keeps dodging and spouting inane garbage. He's really a huge idiot.mattbbpl
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Proof?mattbbplPercentage of people who live their whole lives on welfare or constantly on and off. Remember welfare was created for a temporary period during hard times and it's being abused by 20% of the population. I couldn't help but notice that you didn't provide any proof, or even evidence, in your post as was requested. It's common sense. Look at the rise in numbers and percentage over time. If people only used it temporarily the number should be falling during the 'recovery' not steady and then rising.
[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]That 20% are 100% dependent on government. So that figure doesn't include the average retired person. And obviously there isn't a disability crisis growing over time.KC_HokieDisabled people existed in the past at the same degree. The difference being we just said 'fvck it' and let them rot in many cases. You can't be serious. Millions of people aren't all of a sudden 'disabled'. Please, by all means give me a nice read out of the number of people in this country that are considered disabled and tell how they are wrongly classified as such.
[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]You can't be serious. Millions of people aren't all of a sudden 'disabled'. KC_HokiePlease, by all means give me a nice read out of the number of people in this country that are considered disabled and tell how they are wrongly classified as such. Exactly my point. It's not the disabled taking advantage of the welfare state.
Exactly my point. It's not the disabled taking advantage of the welfare state.[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] Please, by all means give me a nice read out of the number of people in this country that are considered disabled and tell how they are wrongly classified as such. HoolaHoopMan
All facts point to the middle class disappearing and people struggling to provide for families...but hey look...dude on the internet says no. So what if cost of living has increased and wages have stagnated. Dude on the internet says no no no. This does not prove what I said to be wrong. Nothing you said negates what I have said. I could go out of my way to elaborate more to prove my point, but I really can't since I am too busy working and making more money and having more opportunities than most people. So, money isn't a problem if you have money......[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BenedictArnold7"] No living expense is a problem for someone with a decent job is indeed the truth. And again anyone who can't get by is either incompetent and/or in terrible circumstances for whatever reasons. Where is the inaccuracy? Should I give a detailed definition of a decent job? BenedictArnold7
[QUOTE="bookwormwizard"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Microsoft also monopolized the computer market using shady tactics and FUD. many people think M$ was actually harmful for an industry that could have thrived if more options were available. Just because someone makes a popular product doesn't mean he is a saint or should be treated as superior. There are many people out there who spend their lives doing great things without much compensation and they don't even complain. There's research that shows that a big percentage of ceos have psychopathic tendencies. Psychopaths are highly individualistic, they don't lack perseverance and can be very good at what they do. the disturbing thing is that we live in a society that champions and award those traits over any others and, therefore, people like psychopaths can thrive. But this same society doesn't compensate in equal footing other traits that could be better like collaboration, solidarity, altruism. A society whose desirable traits can be found in psychopaths is not a society with a very brigth future since it isn't an actual society in the first place.kuraimen
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If Microsoft broke any laws or did anything wrong, they should be held accountable, but being a saint has nothing to do with anything. Letting someone keep what they earn has nothing to do with if you think they are a saint or not. As for psychopathic tendencies, having a few traits of a psychopath does not make you a psychopath. For instance, psychopaths are charming, oh my gosh I know someone who is charming, they must be a psychopath! Its horrible that we live in a society that likes charming people, I mean its a psychopathic tendency. By the way, the fact that you think its bad for a society to thrive by perseverance makes me think you just don't want to work.
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 There are lots of desirable traits that can be found in psychopaths that are good, just like you can find desirable traits in autistic children, like some of them tend to be very good at things like playing music and such. We should never desire our children to be autistic, But that does not mean we should not desire them to be good at music. We should not desire for people to be psychopaths, but that does not mean some of the traits they have are not desirable. These traits exist in people who are not psychopaths and are not wrong. Perseverance is good, never giving up is good, there is nothing wrong with this. Show me a society that is still around today that does not thrive on perseverance, do you want to be like them?
That psychopaths have those traits doesn't mean only psychopaths can have them but they're characteristic of psychopaths. Probably the most harmful being the lack of empathy which translates into more individualism. That one is not a desirable trait for a society and definitely not for the leaders of the society and people calling the shots. Sure we have psychopaths, but at least we shouldn't be putting them in power and money is power. Lack of empathy for a society is not good, but somehow I don't beleive that CEO's are all psychopaths lol. Also, if there is a rich person who is a psychopath its george soros, go look up some of the thing he's done, yet he supports Obama and the left and they take his money. This idea that its only republicans that cater to "rich evil people" is wrong (not that you said that just saying in general). Just close the freaking tax loop holes, and if you want to raise taxes on the rich, raise it on people who are not investing there money in the US. In other words if there not putting there money in a company or moving this economy along, tax them. Let the rich who are building companies and making jobs, let them keep more of there money so hey can invest more of it, and those who are not investing and are not creating growth get taxed more. I Don't see why both parties could not at least pass a bill like this and at least get something done.
[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="bookwormwizard"]That psychopaths have those traits doesn't mean only psychopaths can have them but they're characteristic of psychopaths. Probably the most harmful being the lack of empathy which translates into more individualism. That one is not a desirable trait for a society and definitely not for the leaders of the society and people calling the shots. Sure we have psychopaths, but at least we shouldn't be putting them in power and money is power. Lack of empathy for a society is not good, but somehow I don't beleive that CEO's are all psychopaths lol. Also, if there is a rich person who is a psychopath its george soros, go look up some of the thing he's done, yet he supports Obama and the left and they take his money. This idea that its only republicans that cater to "rich evil people" is wrong (not that you said that just saying in general). Just close the freaking tax loop holes, and if you want to raise taxes on the rich, raise it on people who are not investing there money in the US. In other words if there not putting there money in a company or moving this economy along, tax them. Let the rich who are building companies and making jobs, let them keep more of there money so hey can invest more of it, and those who are not investing and are not creating growth get taxed more. I Don't see why both parties could not at least pass a bill like this and at least get something done. How is George Soros a psychopath?Â
If Microsoft broke any laws or did anything wrong, they should be held accountable, but being a saint has nothing to do with anything. Letting someone keep what they earn has nothing to do with if you think they are a saint or not. As for psychopathic tendencies, having a few traits of a psychopath does not make you a psychopath. For instance, psychopaths are charming, oh my gosh I know someone who is charming, they must be a psychopath! Its horrible that we live in a society that likes charming people, I mean its a psychopathic tendency. By the way, the fact that you think its bad for a society to thrive by perseverance makes me think you just don't want to work.
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 There are lots of desirable traits that can be found in psychopaths that are good, just like you can find desirable traits in autistic children, like some of them tend to be very good at things like playing music and such. We should never desire our children to be autistic, But that does not mean we should not desire them to be good at music. We should not desire for people to be psychopaths, but that does not mean some of the traits they have are not desirable. These traits exist in people who are not psychopaths and are not wrong. Perseverance is good, never giving up is good, there is nothing wrong with this. Show me a society that is still around today that does not thrive on perseverance, do you want to be like them?
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="bookwormwizard"]That psychopaths have those traits doesn't mean only psychopaths can have them but they're characteristic of psychopaths. Probably the most harmful being the lack of empathy which translates into more individualism. That one is not a desirable trait for a society and definitely not for the leaders of the society and people calling the shots. Sure we have psychopaths, but at least we shouldn't be putting them in power and money is power. Lack of empathy for a society is not good, but somehow I don't beleive that CEO's are all psychopaths lol. Also, if there is a rich person who is a psychopath its george soros, go look up some of the thing he's done, yet he supports Obama and the left and they take his money. This idea that its only republicans that cater to "rich evil people" is wrong (not that you said that just saying in general). Just close the freaking tax loop holes, and if you want to raise taxes on the rich, raise it on people who are not investing there money in the US. In other words if there not putting there money in a company or moving this economy along, tax them. Let the rich who are building companies and making jobs, let them keep more of there money so hey can invest more of it, and those who are not investing and are not creating growth get taxed more. I Don't see why both parties could not at least pass a bill like this and at least get something done. I'm not saying all ceos are psychopaths, that would be ridiculous. But some research have shown that an unusually high portion of them have psychopathic traits since those traits are useful for that kind of positions.Â
If Microsoft broke any laws or did anything wrong, they should be held accountable, but being a saint has nothing to do with anything. Letting someone keep what they earn has nothing to do with if you think they are a saint or not. As for psychopathic tendencies, having a few traits of a psychopath does not make you a psychopath. For instance, psychopaths are charming, oh my gosh I know someone who is charming, they must be a psychopath! Its horrible that we live in a society that likes charming people, I mean its a psychopathic tendency. By the way, the fact that you think its bad for a society to thrive by perseverance makes me think you just don't want to work.
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 There are lots of desirable traits that can be found in psychopaths that are good, just like you can find desirable traits in autistic children, like some of them tend to be very good at things like playing music and such. We should never desire our children to be autistic, But that does not mean we should not desire them to be good at music. We should not desire for people to be psychopaths, but that does not mean some of the traits they have are not desirable. These traits exist in people who are not psychopaths and are not wrong. Perseverance is good, never giving up is good, there is nothing wrong with this. Show me a society that is still around today that does not thrive on perseverance, do you want to be like them?
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Now this was an incredible situation, and I hate to judge the man, he was just a kid, but to say this (now that he's older) saying in a funny way its like the markets...Yea, if someone does not do it, someone else will, so you can do whatever? What on earth...And to feel no guilt, I know I would, at least a little, even if its not directly my fault. If anyone has a lack of empathy its him.bookwormwizardI don't really see why he should feel guilt for that. He couldn't have done anything and if he had he would have been probably been thrown in a concentration camp. He fully admits there that what was going on was evil so he obviously felt bad about what was happening. I feel as if you're also misunderstanding what he's saying. It doesn't seem like he's saying anything like what your claiming it seems more that he's saying if it wasn't that particular man he was with confiscating those things then it would have been someone else so why bother the distinction that he was there. Also I have like almost no clue who this is so my entire judgement of his character is from what you posted.
Hokie, what happened to your avyDroidPhysXIt was hosted on a non GS approved site. Rules went into effect yesterday or something
I'm not saying all ceos are psychopaths, that would be ridiculous. But some research have shown that an unusually high portion of them have psychopathic traits since those traits are useful for that kind of positions.kuraimenJust because you have some symptoms doesn't mean you have the illness. Psychopaths have little if any long-term goals and aren't able to make meaningful relationships...both of which you need to be a successful businessman.
Psychopaths are perfect for leadership roles. They strive for power and dominance without any of the emotional baggage that most normal people would have to deal with. Yet that is their only strength.
While psychopaths are very good at dominating, deceiving, and manipulating people, they also completely lack the ability to be creative in any way. Some people actually believe that psychopaths are not human all together but instead a sub species. The way that a psychopath brain reacts to stimuli is completely different from how a normal healthy human brain reacts. All psychopaths have an almost completely inactive prefrontal cortex.
Psychopaths are not individual's either. They do not have real personalities or identities. They create them for manipulation purposes and when they don't need that mask anymore they discard it to create a new one.Â
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I sometimes wonder how many Psychopaths there are in OT....
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Edit: Don't confuse any of the traits above with creativity. All psychopaths do is steal other peoples ideas and personalities. You will NEVER find a phycopath that is creative. EVER.
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