The Real Reason Muslims blame the U.S. & Israel

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#1 Posted by Skarwolf (1806 posts) -

Anytime something happens the west is blamed. Always. Its either israel or the usa. If they didn't have israel or usa to blame these people would have to look to themselves to understand how fundamentally wrong their society is. This is the conundrum because their religion forbids questioning their way of life. Anyone who does and you get shoulder to shoulder dudes on the street clutching wreckage burning flags and acting like a buncha savages.

Therefore they need someone else to blame because if they didn't they'd have to question themselves and as a result would be forced to committ suicide because they're not allowed to :P

#3 Posted by themajormayor (25667 posts) -
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#4 Posted by mayceV (4599 posts) -
...? You're now the most ignorant person on OT :) have a nice day.
#7 Posted by BlindBluMonstah (13820 posts) -
...? You're now the most ignorant person on OT :) have a nice day.mayceV
Made me laugh :p
#8 Posted by Mike-uk (2088 posts) -

gtfo.

#9 Posted by Laihendi (5800 posts) -

Anytime something happens the west is blamed. Always. Its either israel or the usa. If they didn't have israel or usa to blame these people would have to look to themselves to understand how fundamentally wrong their society is. This is the conundrum because their religion forbids questioning their way of life. Anyone who does and you get shoulder to shoulder dudes on the street clutching wreckage burning flags and acting like a buncha savages.

Therefore they need someone else to blame because if they didn't they'd have to question themselves and as a result would be forced to committ suicide because they're not allowed to :P

Skarwolf
Be careful, you might offend someone and incite more riots.
#10 Posted by m25105 (3135 posts) -

Anytime something happens the west is blamed. Always. Its either israel or the usa. If they didn't have israel or usa to blame these people would have to look to themselves to understand how fundamentally wrong their society is. This is the conundrum because their religion forbids questioning their way of life. Anyone who does and you get shoulder to shoulder dudes on the street clutching wreckage burning flags and acting like a buncha savages.

Therefore they need someone else to blame because if they didn't they'd have to question themselves and as a result would be forced to committ suicide because they're not allowed to :P

Skarwolf
Moron.
#11 Posted by MrPraline (21284 posts) -
It's a good thing you didn't put that in an animated YouTube film, Skar.
#12 Posted by Barbariser (6717 posts) -

The Middle East today is the result of the entire region being turned into a battlefield of the Cold War. The U.S. and the Soviets pretty much caused the Islamic radicalization of the region with their callous attempts at manipulating it for their own gain, and the U.S. is still fvcking up the region today with sh!t like the Iraq War. Islamic culture is not a nice thing even in countries that are more prosperous and stable than the Middle East, but a great deal of the Middle East's resentment of the West is perfectly justified.

#13 Posted by chessmaster1989 (29062 posts) -

Therefore they need someone else to blame because if they didn't they'd have to question themselves and as a result would be forced to committ suicide because they're not allowed to :P

Skarwolf

wat

#14 Posted by sonicare (53448 posts) -
It's a good thing you didn't put that in an animated YouTube film, Skar.MrPraline
I was just reading about this dutch filmmaker that was shot 12 times and killed after making a film that questioned islam. This happened in Holland and the killer then attempted to behead him. Seriously, wtf? Imagine being targetted for death because you call god the magic spaghetti monster. Dudes just need to chill the fck out. Why do they get so crazy about some random person's film? People say insulting crap all the time. Got to learn better coping mechanisms.
#19 Posted by Harisemo (4133 posts) -

lol

#20 Posted by cslayer211 (833 posts) -

The Middle East today is the result of the entire region being turned into a battlefield of the Cold War. The U.S. and the Soviets pretty much caused the Islamic radicalization of the region with their callous attempts at manipulating it for their own gain, and the U.S. is still fvcking up the region today with sh!t like the Iraq War. Islamic culture is not a nice thing even in countries that are more prosperous and stable than the Middle East, but a great deal of the Middle East's resentment of the West is perfectly justified.

Barbariser
The Soviets invaded Afghanistan for many reasons, one of them was Islamic extremism. The U.S. made the mistake of giving a crap load of weapons to Afghan Mujahideens, not realizing they were going to be a future enemy. Blaming their intolerance for western culture on other people certainly is foolish.
#21 Posted by BossPerson (9432 posts) -

kind of stupid OP is kind of stupid

#22 Posted by FMAB_GTO (14385 posts) -
I don't get it....?
#23 Posted by MrPraline (21284 posts) -
[QUOTE="MrPraline"]It's a good thing you didn't put that in an animated YouTube film, Skar.sonicare
I was just reading about this dutch filmmaker that was shot 12 times and killed after making a film that questioned islam. This happened in Holland and the killer then attempted to behead him. Seriously, wtf? Imagine being targetted for death because you call god the magic spaghetti monster. Dudes just need to chill the fck out. Why do they get so crazy about some random person's film? People say insulting crap all the time. Got to learn better coping mechanisms.

Yeah, Theo van Gogh. Black day in our history. :( Film in question was Submission, written by Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who I think is somewhat known in the USA, too. She moved there a few years ago and has been on several programs.
#24 Posted by jimkabrhel (15416 posts) -

Partly because the US (and other western allies) supported dictators who oppressed millions of Muslims for many years. Now we expect them to embrace us just because we got rid of those same dictators?

#25 Posted by Spinnerweb (2928 posts) -
 Besides, why did you feel the need to post this? You just made yourself look stupid.
#26 Posted by DroidPhysX (17088 posts) -
OP confirmed for f*****
#27 Posted by Jebus213 (8716 posts) -
The U.S. made the mistake of giving a crap load of weapons to Afghan Mujahideens, not realizing they were going to be a future enemy.cslayer211
I'm tired of people saying that.... We sure did supply them with half century old Lee Enfields and kolesnikov's alright. Totally supplied by us. After the countless video's and documentaries there are no weapons being produced or sold on the border at all.
#28 Posted by mahlasor (1278 posts) -

I dont get the whole "wow this guy is stupid," nothing he said is really stupid.. Then again those people are probably the stupid ones in reality. Everyone knows that they are just blaming their problems on others, you dont blame other people for some that you did that you have control over. The way they are acting now, is a sure way of holding back progress for their countries, be freakin honest. The US cant make them that way.

#29 Posted by ShadowMoses900 (17081 posts) -

Agreed. However it is not just Islam that causes this hatred, I know an Arab person from my university and they are an atheist. But they still hate Jews and the US military. They hate Jews even if they arn't religious ones. Not all arabs do though mind you, I get along with some of them.

The ME needs to get with the times, it is living in a backwards barbaric state run by dictators and rich oil tyrants. Kuwait for example is one of the richest places in the world, this is because they make huge sums of money off of the oil trade.

The US and other western nations put these tyrants in charge, we also trained many of the terrorist groups back in the 80's to fight the Soviet Union. We share some of the blame.

This is why Israel is so important. They are the only democracy in that region, the only nation that values human rights an equality. It has it's problems sure, but it only does the things it has to in self defense.

Israel is a blessing to the Middle East and a Gift from God to the World. I hope Israel kicks Iran's ass.

#30 Posted by kingkong0124 (8710 posts) -

I agree with most of what you're saying.

#31 Posted by ShadowMoses900 (17081 posts) -

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]It's a good thing you didn't put that in an animated YouTube film, Skar.sonicare
I was just reading about this dutch filmmaker that was shot 12 times and killed after making a film that questioned islam. This happened in Holland and the killer then attempted to behead him. Seriously, wtf? Imagine being targetted for death because you call god the magic spaghetti monster. Dudes just need to chill the fck out. Why do they get so crazy about some random person's film? People say insulting crap all the time. Got to learn better coping mechanisms.

I have seen the film. It's on Youtube actually. It is terriblly low budget and the actors are so bad, the Muhammed character is portrayed as a crazy war tyrant who is also a sex predator and preys on a little girl (which btw did happen according to the Quran. I ask Muslims about this but they dismiss it or give me some BS answer like "girls grew up faster back then" ).

Regardless, the fact is do you believe in freedom of speech or not? There are things all the time that I see that I disagree with, like Bill Maher sometimes rustles my jimmies because he says things like "religious people have lower IQ's" which is absolutely wrong. I don't watch him but every now and then I do come across him. I don't hate him, I think he has a good sense of humor, but his attitude is very snobby and he comes across as closed minded.

But I don't want to kill him, I will stand up for his right to say what he wants. If Muslims truly want to live in a free world with democracy they will have to learn to do the same thing. People are going to say or make things that you disagree with. You just have to get over it and let it be. You can make you claim as to why they are wrong with your own freedom of speech.

But killing people over it just seems childish. Super hyper sensitive.

#32 Posted by GrayF0X786 (3827 posts) -

*sigh* brb next month lol

#33 Posted by ShadowMoses900 (17081 posts) -

I agree with most of what you're saying.

kingkong0124

You, him, and me are probably the only 3 people in this thread who will agree. Everyone else is just bashing TC and calling him a bigot when he isn't one at all. Off Topic is so full of politicaly correct morons that they are hyper sensitive, all TC is doing is sayng the truth. He wasn't insulting Muslims or Arabs, he was just pointing out the real reason why they hate the US and Israel.

Israel and the US are the only two targest that they agree on, wihtouth them they would just go back to fighting each other. And Political Correctness is Censorship.

#34 Posted by l4dak47 (6838 posts) -

I agree with most of what you're saying.

kingkong0124
You're also ignorant with much of the ME's history.
#37 Posted by kingkong0124 (8710 posts) -

ShadowMoses900

There's a few other people (hopefully) on OT, so don't worry, and yeah, I agree. And political correctness being censorship is a great point. It removes you from the truth of the matter.

#39 Posted by kingkong0124 (8710 posts) -

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

I agree with most of what you're saying.

l4dak47

You're also ignorant with much of the ME's history.

Tell me about the ME's history, historian.

#40 Posted by Skarwolf (1806 posts) -

kind of stupid OP is kind of stupid

BossPerson

Well I apologize to the more cultured readers who understand sarcasm apparently thats another subject Muslims cannot comprehend along with irony.

Next time I post something I'll make sure to dumb it down enough so its easier for the savages to understand.

Durka durka durkaaaa

#41 Posted by champion837 (1447 posts) -

Anytime something happens the west is blamed. Skarwolf

Just because someone brings up the problems in the west doesn't mean that they are blaming the west for every friggin thing. It's funny how that is the argument used quite frequently for people who want to ignore the issues that are being discussed.

#42 Posted by l4dak47 (6838 posts) -

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

I agree with most of what you're saying.

kingkong0124

You're also ignorant with much of the ME's history.

Tell me about the ME's history, historian.

Would take me pages to tell you all of it, but uh..... despite what you think, it's not as simple as "durr hurr they hate u.s/israel because of jealously. hurr"
#43 Posted by The_Gaming_Baby (6335 posts) -

Anytime something happens the west is blamed. Always. Its either israel or the usa. If they didn't have israel or usa to blame these people would have to look to themselves to understand how fundamentally wrong their society is. This is the conundrum because their religion forbids questioning their way of life. Anyone who does and you get shoulder to shoulder dudes on the street clutching wreckage burning flags and acting like a buncha savages.

Therefore they need someone else to blame because if they didn't they'd have to question themselves and as a result would be forced to committ suicide because they're not allowed to :P

Skarwolf
You've solved it
#44 Posted by kingkong0124 (8710 posts) -

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] You're also ignorant with much of the ME's history. l4dak47

Tell me about the ME's history, historian.

Would take me pages to tell you all of it, but uh..... despite what you think, it's not as simple as "durr hurr they hate u.s/israel because of jealously. hurr"

It's a pretty big reason, you have to admit that.

#45 Posted by l4dak47 (6838 posts) -

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Tell me about the ME's history, historian.

kingkong0124

Would take me pages to tell you all of it, but uh..... despite what you think, it's not as simple as "durr hurr they hate u.s/israel because of jealously. hurr"

It's a pretty big reason, you have to admit that.

I don't really consider it a reason since many of the radicals despise our way of life. why would they be jealous of something that they despise?
#46 Posted by ShadowMoses900 (17081 posts) -

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] You're also ignorant with much of the ME's history. l4dak47

Tell me about the ME's history, historian.

Would take me pages to tell you all of it, but uh..... despite what you think, it's not as simple as "durr hurr they hate u.s/israel because of jealously. hurr"

They hate Israel because they are anti-semitic. And they hate the US in part because we put dictators there, but also because they are brainwashed to hate it. They think the US is the Great Devil of the World.

Many people on Off Topic seem to have a similar attitude unfortunately. They are just kids trying to be cool, they'll grow up eventually.

#47 Posted by Mike-uk (2088 posts) -

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Tell me about the ME's history, historian.

ShadowMoses900

Would take me pages to tell you all of it, but uh..... despite what you think, it's not as simple as "durr hurr they hate u.s/israel because of jealously. hurr"

They hate Israel because they are anti-semitic. And they hate the US in part because we put dictators there, but also because they are brainwashed to hate it. They think the US is the Great Devil of the World.

Many people on Off Topic seem to have a similar attitude unfortunately. They are just kids trying to be cool, they'll grow up eventually.

You make it sound like the US Government is all sunshine and rainbows.
#48 Posted by l4dak47 (6838 posts) -

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Tell me about the ME's history, historian.

ShadowMoses900

Would take me pages to tell you all of it, but uh..... despite what you think, it's not as simple as "durr hurr they hate u.s/israel because of jealously. hurr"

They hate Israel because they are anti-semitic. And they hate the US in part because we put dictators there, but also because they are brainwashed to hate it. They think the US is the Great Devil of the World.

Many people on Off Topic seem to have a similar attitude unfortunately. They are just kids trying to be cool, they'll grow up eventually.

Parts bolded are pretty damn important and not something to just skip over. The U.S. is seen as the Great devil because they have done many things that we would consider evil in the Me. Also, ever consider the fact that the reason so many of them are brainwashed is because, in part, of the dictators we put in power?