@Riverwolf007 said:
@SolidTy said:
@Riverwolf007 said:
fucking unbelievable.
there may not be one greater human right in the constitution than the protection of free speech.
sony or amc or anyone else that capitulated to this threat will never see another penny from me.
as americans the last thing we should give a **** about is the threat of injury in the face of protecting free speech.
and yes it is a shame that it is over some stupid stoner roganfranco picture but that part does not really matter.
the smallest erosion of free speech is a very very big deal.
Well, to be clear Sony Pictures was victimized for daring to create and green light this project with North Korea as a subject. It could have been any film company. Sony Pictures didn’t pull the movie because they were scared; they pulled the movie because all the theaters said they were not going to run it. Sony Pictures said they were not going to run it because they talked to their lawyers and those lawyers said if somebody dies in one of these screenings, then Sony was going to be responsible.
This is a very big deal with regards to free speech, but you are looking to blame in the wrong direction. The terrorist attacks and North Korea are the issue here. After multiple chains opted to cancel the movie, Sony was left with little choice but to pull the movie.
“Sony Pictures has no further release plans for the film,”
http://deadline.com/2014/12/sony-hack-the-interview-release-vod-1201328791/
if this was just about safety they would not have shitcanned all versions.
if it was about safety they are idiots.
free speech is and always will be risky.
caving because of that reason is even worse than caving because of money.
That link is from two days ago and a lot has happened since then. You are WAY too quick to point fingers at a situation that is still unfolding. They caved in because theatres won't play the movie. That was already stated above.
They didn't shitcan anything, and they didn't cave. You are wrong. They just said today they are considering alternatives which includes releasing The Interview. You are citing a two day old article that is sourced from a "low level studio spokesperson."
Let's go to the top dog of Sony Pictures, the Sony Pictures CEO Lynton said this TODAY:
"We have not caved, we have not given in, we have persevered and we have not backed down. We have always had every desire to have the American public to see this movie..."
In fact, I'll raise your single two day old article citing a PR person with two articles from a few hours ago citing the actual SONY Pictures CEO.
These two articles were both posted today (minutes ago):
Sony Pictures CEO: 'We have always had every desire' to release The Interview (LINK #1)
and
Sony says no online service has 'stepped forward' to distribute The Interview (LINK #2)
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tl;dr: You are just creating confusion and misunderstanding on a terrorist situation that you yourself haven't researched very well. It seems like you have an agenda or are just trying to vilify and demonize Sony Pictures in any way you can. Let's be honest too, you have a very jaded history with Sony when it comes to your posts for a great many years. You would quote a two day old article citing a low level employee over the Sony Pictures CEO from today? It just doesn't add up, unless you trying to troll and get others to dislike the company that you have actively disliked for years? I really hope not.
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This is the third or fourth thread that you have been provided links and evidence but you keep showing up in other threads stating the same old things. You went as far as to tell users you wouldn't buy a PS4 or Sony products and were equating this terrorist situation as Sony infringing on your free speech. It reads like some peculiar spin and strange propaganda in all honesty after all the links and evidence I read the subject. You should direct your anger to the terrorists or perhaps the all the various theatre chains (Regal, AMC, Cinemark, Cineplex, Bow Tie Cinemas, Carmike, etc)) that pulled Sony's film down.
Here's a third article that is very enlightening about the subject. You also have to realize this news is changing daily and some articles are quoting low level people and others are quoting top level execs. You have to be able to distinguish the sources these articles are based on. You have to realize websites want traffic and create click-bait and accept you may have to read more than one article to get an idea of what is happening. This is essentially a giant Chess game and we are mid game. Sony will have more things to say and do in the future. The United States is now weighing in on this as Obama and the F.B.I. are getting involved. You are blaming Sony as if they are the terrorists or as if Sony could control the mass amount of theatre chains that pulled the movie (which I cited in that other thread for you; Regal, AMC, Cinemark, Cineplex, Bow Tie Cinemas, Carmike, etc).
You need to place your personal bias you've had for years towards Sony aside (despite the "I own PS machines!" argument, I'm talking about your long time anti Sony posting history) and look at the big picture. You certainly should stop jumping the gun and trying to convince others when you don't have all the facts in and you are running around with one old news article. There is ample material to read today that directly conflicts with your article from much higher sources to boot (Sony Pictures CEO for example).
Yesterday's George Clooney interview article on the situation is a great read (Hollywood Cowardice: George Clooney Explains Why Sony Stood Alone In North Korean Cyberterror Attack).
I posted 4 links in this post. Hopefully that will help, but remember tomorrow is another day and even more news may unfold.
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