The death penalty, do you support it?

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#201 Posted by Ncsoftlover (2111 posts) -

Yeah, depends on the situation, only internet kids don't support it. They get all their morals from the liberal circle jerk on the internet.

GD1551

try to get a restore death penalty bill in Canadian parliament where there's a conservative majority and see how the vote will go, then you'll know if it's just the kids on the internet that are against it.

#202 Posted by GD1551 (9155 posts) -

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Yeah, depends on the situation, only internet kids don't support it. They get all their morals from the liberal circle jerk on the internet.

Ncsoftlover

try to get a restore death penalty bill in Canadian parliament where there's a conservative majority and see how the vote will go, then you'll know if it's just the kids on the internet that are against it.

Nobody gives a shit about irrelevant countries like Canada.

#203 Posted by Rapporteur (99 posts) -

[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Yeah, depends on the situation, only internet kids don't support it. They get all their morals from the liberal circle jerk on the internet.

GD1551

try to get a restore death penalty bill in Canadian parliament where there's a conservative majority and see how the vote will go, then you'll know if it's just the kids on the internet that are against it.

Nobody gives a shit about irrelevant countries like Canada.

I give a shit about it because it directly contradicts your absolutely moronic assertion that only online kids (who are implied to follow some sort of herd liberal morality) oppose it.
#204 Posted by GD1551 (9155 posts) -

I give a shit about it because it directly contradicts your absolutely moronic assertion that only online kids (who are implied to follow some sort of herd liberal morality) oppose it. Rapporteur

Canada is fully of irrelvant sissies pretending like they matter in any form or fashion other than being in the shadow of America. Nobody cares about them, they have no influence in the world and no one cares what they do or say.

#205 Posted by masiisam (5717 posts) -

Meh...I haven't really thought about it ...maybe it's cause I don't care..Kill them or not is just fine with me..

#206 Posted by Serraph105 (27739 posts) -

I've never been comfortable with the death penalty. I feel like we lower ourselves to the level of the one we are prosecuting. It doesn't help that there are innocent people that have been put to death in the past. I'm going to go the fiscally conservative route, and say that I do not.

#207 Posted by chrisrooR (9026 posts) -

[QUOTE="Rapporteur"]

I give a shit about it because it directly contradicts your absolutely moronic assertion that only online kids (who are implied to follow some sort of herd liberal morality) oppose it. GD1551

Canada is fully of irrelvant sissies pretending like they matter in any form or fashion other than being in the shadow of America. Nobody cares about them, they have no influence in the world and no one cares what they do or say.

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#208 Posted by GD1551 (9155 posts) -

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="Rapporteur"]

I give a shit about it because it directly contradicts your absolutely moronic assertion that only online kids (who are implied to follow some sort of herd liberal morality) oppose it. chrisrooR

Canada is fully of irrelvant sissies pretending like they matter in any form or fashion other than being in the shadow of America. Nobody cares about them, they have no influence in the world and no one cares what they do or say.

 

:cry:

Truth hurts, I know.

#209 Posted by chrisrooR (9026 posts) -

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Canada is fully of irrelvant sissies pretending like they matter in any form or fashion other than being in the shadow of America. Nobody cares about them, they have no influence in the world and no one cares what they do or say.

GD1551

 

:cry:

Truth hurts, I know.

:lol: You sound butthurt. It's cute how you group everyone together. So full of anger!
#210 Posted by GD1551 (9155 posts) -

:cry:chrisrooR

I'm not the one crying.

#211 Posted by Rich3232 (2754 posts) -

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]

:cry:GD1551

I'm not the one crying.

Nah, just a big ol whiner.
#212 Posted by chrisrooR (9026 posts) -

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]

:cry:GD1551

I'm not the one crying.

hahaha awww you guys, how cute is this! He thinks he's making a point. **I'm just laughing brah, you seem rather butthurt.
#213 Posted by Palantas (15321 posts) -

There is too much trolling on this page.

I've never been comfortable with the death penalty. I feel like we lower ourselves to the level of the one we are prosecuting. It doesn't help that there are innocent people that have been put to death in the past. I'm going to go the fiscally conservative route, and say that I do not.

Serraph105

I don't think we lowers ourselves by putting someone to death. If so, do we not lower ourselves when administering others punishments? If not, why?

I do agree about the problem that there are innocent people being put to death. To execute someone means we already have them in our power. They can do no more to hurt us; we've won. It's too great a risk to then kill them, I think.

#214 Posted by worlock77 (22547 posts) -

[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Yeah, depends on the situation, only internet kids don't support it. They get all their morals from the liberal circle jerk on the internet.

GD1551

try to get a restore death penalty bill in Canadian parliament where there's a conservative majority and see how the vote will go, then you'll know if it's just the kids on the internet that are against it.

Nobody gives a shit about irrelevant countries like Canada.

You're kind of a moron aren't you?

#215 Posted by Aljosa23 (24606 posts) -

[QUOTE="Rapporteur"]

I give a shit about it because it directly contradicts your absolutely moronic assertion that only online kids (who are implied to follow some sort of herd liberal morality) oppose it. GD1551

Canada is fully of irrelvant sissies pretending like they matter in any form or fashion other than being in the shadow of America. Nobody cares about them, they have no influence in the world and no one cares what they do or say.

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y u mad tho

#216 Posted by ghoklebutter (19327 posts) -
I'm not a fan of state-sponsored murder, no.
#217 Posted by Primordialous (1276 posts) -

I've done a lot of thinking in the past day........personally, I'm starting to find it wrong to kill somebody else. Nobody deserves to die, though they do deserve punishment for the crimes they commit....

 

Thanks for your input, everyone.

#218 Posted by GD1551 (9155 posts) -

You're kind of a moron aren't you?

worlock77

You're one of those little liberal shits aren't you?

#219 Posted by Rich3232 (2754 posts) -

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

You're kind of a moron aren't you?

GD1551

You're one of those little liberal shits aren't you?

Sure are making your conservatives pals look good with those little tantrums you keep throwing.
#220 Posted by Intrinsic29 (35 posts) -

I've done a lot of thinking in the past day........personally, I'm starting to find it wrong to kill somebody else. Nobody deserves to die, though they do deserve punishment for the crimes they commit....

Thanks for your input, everyone.

Primordialous

I think you're onto something but you should take it a bit further. People don't 'deserve' to suffer, no matter what they do. There was never a moment in either of our lives where we 'chose' to not be psychopathic killers. You and I are merely lucky that we didn't have the right (or wrong) biological priors and life experiences that led us to become psychopathic killers. The idea that people 'deserve' to suffer, regardless of what they've done, is based on an intuitive desire for retribution and revenge. It has no rational basis and is based wholly on malevolent values. If we value life and the well-being of others then our justice system should be based around preventing suffering as best as possible and not inflicting more needless suffering on those who we've already successfully moved from potential victims. There simply is no rational reason to go in, after you have someone separated from society, and make them suffer more. The only reason that has been put forward was that it might set an example which might deter future potential criminals but studies have shown that punishment in the legal system beyond mere incarceration has nearly zero value as a deterrent.

#221 Posted by ghoklebutter (19327 posts) -

Yeah, depends on the situation, only internet kids don't support it. They get all their morals from the liberal circle jerk on the internet.

GD1551

Yep. It's not like anyone could possibly oppose the death penalty for his/her own reasons. They only do so because they're part of a circle-jerk.

Get off your high-horse. 

#222 Posted by ghoklebutter (19327 posts) -

[QUOTE="Rapporteur"]

I give a shit about it because it directly contradicts your absolutely moronic assertion that only online kids (who are implied to follow some sort of herd liberal morality) oppose it. GD1551

Canada is fully of irrelvant sissies pretending like they matter in any form or fashion other than being in the shadow of America. Nobody cares about them, they have no influence in the world and no one cares what they do or say.

Did you even read what that person said? Or were you too fixated on trying to sound cool?
#223 Posted by worlock77 (22547 posts) -

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

You're kind of a moron aren't you?

GD1551

You're one of those little liberal shits aren't you?

You didn't answer the question.

#224 Posted by GD1551 (9155 posts) -

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

You're kind of a moron aren't you?

Rich3232

You're one of those little liberal shits aren't you?

Sure are making your conservatives pals look good with those little tantrums you keep throwing.

Ok Mr pseudo intellectual, and I'm not a conservative for your information, but in the liberal mind you are either us or them. Damn kids up in here.

#225 Posted by GD1551 (9155 posts) -

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="Rapporteur"]

I give a shit about it because it directly contradicts your absolutely moronic assertion that only online kids (who are implied to follow some sort of herd liberal morality) oppose it. ghoklebutter

Canada is fully of irrelvant sissies pretending like they matter in any form or fashion other than being in the shadow of America. Nobody cares about them, they have no influence in the world and no one cares what they do or say.

Did you even read what that person said? Or were you too fixated on trying to sound cool?

This is the first and last time I will respond to you, do not bother quoting me because I will not answer.

#226 Posted by GD1551 (9155 posts) -

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

You're kind of a moron aren't you?

worlock77

You're one of those little liberal shits aren't you?

You didn't answer the question.

I don't need to answer your questions but I won't ask if you aren't an obnoxious liberal shit, the two threads I've seen you in already already confirm that.

#227 Posted by tenaka2 (17013 posts) -

Do you support it?

 

What do you think of it?

 

I'm personally for it if the suspect is proven guilty of murder. Murderers are the lowest form of scum on this planet. I honestly cannot see why someone would think that people who take lives deserves to live themselves.

Primordialous

Not the U.S. version as it costs far to much, if you have to have it, it should occur the next morning at dawn after sentence, being on death row for years with endless appeals is a mess,

#228 Posted by Barbariser (6717 posts) -

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="Rapporteur"]

I give a shit about it because it directly contradicts your absolutely moronic assertion that only online kids (who are implied to follow some sort of herd liberal morality) oppose it. ghoklebutter

Canada is fully of irrelvant sissies pretending like they matter in any form or fashion other than being in the shadow of America. Nobody cares about them, they have no influence in the world and no one cares what they do or say.

Did you even read what that person said? Or were you too fixated on trying to sound cool?

I'm not sure why you would bother trying to reason with someone whose first and only reaction to anything that proves him wrong is basically "you suck so I'm still right". I think people would have figured out that if someone rants about "liberals" in half his posts as though one of them killed his dog or something they should probably be ignored and left to crawl out of their little bubbles of ignorance on their own initiative.

#229 Posted by worlock77 (22547 posts) -

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

You're one of those little liberal shits aren't you?

GD1551

You didn't answer the question.

I don't need to answer your questions but I won't ask if you aren't an obnoxious liberal shit, the two threads I've seen you in already already confirm that.

Got nothing to do with being liberal or conservative. The fact is you've made nothing but absolutely moronic, borderline trollish comments in this thread. Hence the question. Now, are you a moron?

#230 Posted by LJS9502_basic (150066 posts) -

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

try to get a restore death penalty bill in Canadian parliament where there's a conservative majority and see how the vote will go, then you'll know if it's just the kids on the internet that are against it.

worlock77

Nobody gives a shit about irrelevant countries like Canada.

You're kind of a moron aren't you?

I see you still employ the insult as a debating technique....:lol:
#231 Posted by dave123321 (33618 posts) -
Grade school in here.
#232 Posted by dave123321 (33618 posts) -
I don't think I support the death penalty
#233 Posted by KungfuKitten (20772 posts) -

There is no reason for death penalty.
There is no actual support for death penalty.
It costs more money, it is completely inhumane and it doesn't gain us anything. It also doesn't allow us to correct for errors.
In hands of a government who can throw anyone they want into torture and even extradites people nilliwilly, death penalty is the last thing you want to see accepted in their society.
The people who say they support it must be very blood thirsty. Maybe you should sign up for the légion étrangère if you want to see death so badly.

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#235 Posted by genfactor (1462 posts) -
I probably would support the death penalty if it was applied to the elite. Politicians, wallstreet executives, high ranking church officials, the wealthy and other people in positions of power who abuse their power. It's easy to execute a petty street thug or the poor. If you want to impress me, prove how much you care about justice by going after the people at the top of the food chain.
#236 Posted by PannicAtack (20937 posts) -

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

You're one of those little liberal shits aren't you?

GD1551

You didn't answer the question.

I don't need to answer your questions but I won't ask if you aren't an obnoxious liberal shit, the two threads I've seen you in already already confirm that.

Rustling jimmies, huh?

#237 Posted by ghoklebutter (19327 posts) -

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

Canada is fully of irrelvant sissies pretending like they matter in any form or fashion other than being in the shadow of America. Nobody cares about them, they have no influence in the world and no one cares what they do or say.

Barbariser

Did you even read what that person said? Or were you too fixated on trying to sound cool?

I'm not sure why you would bother trying to reason with someone whose first and only reaction to anything that proves him wrong is basically "you suck so I'm still right". I think people would have figured out that if someone rants about "liberals" in half his posts as though one of them killed his dog or something they should probably be ignored and left to crawl out of their little bubbles of ignorance on their own initiative.

That user was just amusingly arrogant and short-sighted, hence my responses. I definitely didn't expect to engage in a meaningful discussion with that user. I mean, just look at his/her previous response to me. >_>

#238 Posted by ghoklebutter (19327 posts) -

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

Canada is fully of irrelvant sissies pretending like they matter in any form or fashion other than being in the shadow of America. Nobody cares about them, they have no influence in the world and no one cares what they do or say.

GD1551

Did you even read what that person said? Or were you too fixated on trying to sound cool?

This is the first and last time I will respond to you, do not bother quoting me because I will not answer.

you're like so cool dude can you teach me how to be cool
#239 Posted by PannicAtack (20937 posts) -

[QUOTE="Barbariser"]

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] Did you even read what that person said? Or were you too fixated on trying to sound cool?ghoklebutter

I'm not sure why you would bother trying to reason with someone whose first and only reaction to anything that proves him wrong is basically "you suck so I'm still right". I think people would have figured out that if someone rants about "liberals" in half his posts as though one of them killed his dog or something they should probably be ignored and left to crawl out of their little bubbles of ignorance on their own initiative.

That user was just amusingly arrogant and short-sighted, hence my responses. I definitely didn't expect to engage in a meaningful discussion with that user. I mean, just look at his/her previous response to me. >_>

I'm guessing he's a troll. The alternative being "massive twat."
#240 Posted by ristactionjakso (5666 posts) -

Ya I support it. 

Our technology allows for very accurate DNA readings. If the person is guilty of murder, child molestation and things along those lines then yes. Death penalty. 

#241 Posted by BossPerson (9432 posts) -

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="Rapporteur"]

I give a shit about it because it directly contradicts your absolutely moronic assertion that only online kids (who are implied to follow some sort of herd liberal morality) oppose it. coolbeans90

Canada is fully of irrelvant sissies pretending like they matter in any form or fashion other than being in the shadow of America. Nobody cares about them, they have no influence in the world and no one cares what they do or say.

Yeah, leaning towards troll on this.

he's sort of right
#242 Posted by BossPerson (9432 posts) -

especially with our prime robot harper

#243 Posted by Danyawesomsauce (105 posts) -
Yes, if the crime commited demands it. I also don't believe in the "life sentence" since the person lives off of taxpayer money until he dies.
#244 Posted by AncientDozer (8128 posts) -
I do not. For many reasons. First, it's expensive. People will point out that it's not the death penalty itself but the appeals process. Which is true! But we live in a society that is supposed to be fair, where the people are innocent until proven guilty. Where we have fail safes. There is absolutely NO WAY to get around the appeals process because it is there on the OFF CHANCE the person might actually be innocent. EVEN IF THERE IS A 0.009% chance the person is innocent, we cannot ignore that possibility. So therefor, when we talk about the death penalty, the appeals process HAS to be factored in. And therefor it is expensive. Second, there is always a chance the person is innocent. However slim, the person we might be sending to death is the wrong person and that is horrifying. Too horrifying to accept. Third, the death penalty does not work in dissuading crime. If a person is mentally ill, they're not going to be scared of the death penalty or know better. If the person is criminally inclined and they do something bad, there's no reason to stop because either way they're screwed if they're caught. And people just don't care. Sometimes life is too short to care that some day you may be caught and killed. Or they have too much of a good thing. Regardless, studies have shown that it's not discouraging crime. Fourth, it is not helping our society. No good is coming of it. It's not out of justice but revenge that we put people to death. Revenge, hate, and every kind of bad emotion Yoda warns us against. It's state-sanctioned murder, some will say. I don't know if I'd go that far but we are putting people to death in situations that are not self defense or battle and it only breeds more negative emotion. Fifth, it's not going to bring anyone back to life and it's not going to bring closure. It's an illusion. A lie we tell ourselves because we're so full of grief and hate. 6th, and this will be the most outlandish of my points, it's a waste of human resources. Even pretty bad criminals can be put to work or labor doing something even if it's peddling on a bike to power a light bulb. Rather than kill them and lose a body, they should be made to literally/actually repay their debt to society in someway by improving it or contributing. 7th, whatever happened to rehabilitation or prevention. Rather than focus on revenge, we should put our resources to rehabilitating people after a crime or before when there are signs. We need to find ways to help with mental health and other methods of prevention. These are more noble endeavors than zapping or poisoning people.
#245 Posted by tjricardo089 (7429 posts) -

I don't know. I don't think it's not up to ourselves to judge on who must live and who must die, but then again if someone killed my family I would like to see him dead. I really don't know, it's a tough question.

#246 Posted by whiskeystrike (12068 posts) -

From rustling liberal minds on OT to trolling sheep on SW GD1551 is a true GameSpot villain.

#247 Posted by Rockman999 (7232 posts) -

He's right about one thing; there is a big liberal circle jerk.

As for the topic.

I do not.

I would prefer we use torture as an extreme form of punishment instead of death.

You get nothing with death but by making the criminal suffer in excruciating agony for the rest of their life then you gain everything.

#248 Posted by dagreenfish (1817 posts) -

I'm ok with it provided strict procedures and protocol are followed.