The death penalty, do you support it?

Do you support it?

What do you think of it?

I'm personally for it if the suspect is proven guilty of murder. Murderers are the lowest form of scum on this planet. I honestly cannot see why someone would think that people who take lives deserves to live themselves.

Yes, under certain circumstances

Yes, under certain circumstances

kingkong0124

Elaborate, if you wish.

i actually dont know where i stand on it.

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Yes, under certain circumstances

Primordialous

Elaborate, if you wish.

I get the whole "eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" type of thing, but that whole philosophy turns foolish when there's like 25 people getting killed by 1 person.

Hitler, for example, deserved the death penalty.

only for lemmings:cool:

i actually dont know where i stand on it.

konvikt_17

Same.

Think of Adam Lanza, the Newtown shooter. He shot and killed 20 children. If he had not committed suicide, he would most likely have gotten the death penalty. Would you really want somebody like this to be kept alive? Anyone with a brain would say no.

Think of Adam Lanza, the Newtown shooter. He shot and killed 20 children. If he had not committed suicide, he would most likely have gotten the death penalty. Would you really want somebody like this to be kept alive? Anyone with a brain would say no.

Primordialous

you cant just base things off of one case.

Think of Adam Lanza, the Newtown shooter. He shot and killed 20 children. If he had not committed suicide, he would most likely have gotten the death penalty. Would you really want somebody like this to be kept alive? Anyone with a brain would say no.

Primordialous

I get the whole "eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" type of thing, but that whole philosophy turns foolish when there's like 25 people getting killed by 1 person. kingkong0124

Do you support it?

 

What do you think of it?

 

I'm personally for it if the suspect is proven guilty of murder. Murderers are the lowest form of scum on this planet. I honestly cannot see why someone would think that people who take lives deserves to live themselves.

Primordialous

Because some people don't deserve to live, or rather, deserve to die. A murderer of rapists, thieves, usurer should get a prize, not a death sentence.

No I don't.

Leaning towards no. I haven't really given it much thought lately. 

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Do you support it?

 

What do you think of it?

 

I'm personally for it if the suspect is proven guilty of murder. Murderers are the lowest form of scum on this planet. I honestly cannot see why someone would think that people who take lives deserves to live themselves.

N30F3N1X

Because some people don't deserve to live, or rather, deserve to die. A murderer of rapists, thieves, usurer should get a prize, not a death sentence.

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Do you support it?

 

What do you think of it?

 

I'm personally for it if the suspect is proven guilty of murder. Murderers are the lowest form of scum on this planet. I honestly cannot see why someone would think that people who take lives deserves to live themselves.

PannicAtack

Because some people don't deserve to live, or rather, deserve to die. A murderer of rapists, thieves, usurer should get a prize, not a death sentence.

I guess he took Boondock Saints a little too close to heart.

Murder is an appropriate response to theft?PannicAtack

Not theft as in stealing snacks from a crowded bar of course, but rather theft as in massive fiscal frauds.

No, and thankfully I live in a country that's against it.

And why would you ask, three simple reasons.

1. Having to be in prison for a large portion of your life if not for the rest of your life is more of a punishment then simply killing them off.

2. Depending on the degree and circumstances, You could rehabilitate those convicted as several more often then not regrets killing another person more so then doing time because of it.

3. It completely removes the chance that you kill a person who could've been innocent.

And it cheaper to give life in prison compared to death sentences

No, and thankfully I live in a country that's against it.

And why would you ask, three simple reasons.

1. Having to be in prison for a large portion of your life if not for the rest of your life is more of a punishment then simply killing them off.

2. Depending on the degree and circumstances, You could rehabilitate those convicted as several more often then not regrets killing another person more so then doing time because of it.

3. It completely removes the chance that you kill a person who could've been innocent.

 

And it cheaper to give life in prison compared to death sentences

Treflis

No.MrPraline

No. It's pointless with 0 positives and the only people for it are bloodthirsty savages.

I find your ideas more scary than the state determining death.LJS9502_basic

You do realize that while the State carries out the sentence, it is a jury of peers that sentence someone to death right?WhiteKnight77

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I find your ideas more scary than the state determining death.Zeviander

No. There's a chance that you can get it wrong, and that's not a chance that should be taken. And it's more expensive than indefinite incarceration.

"Justice" system, not "vengeance".

3. DNA makes that less and less likelyLJS9502_basic

Yet there is still a chance of error and if there is even a small chance of error, it makes more sense to err on the side of avoiding executing inoccent people. After all, the death penalty is in no way neccessary, so it's not really worth the risk.

4. It's not he death sentence nor the execution that are more costly...it's the appeals process.LJ

Regardless of the reasons for the costs, those costs still exist, making the dealth penalty the less cost effective option.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] 3. DNA makes that less and less likelyGreySeal9

Yet there is still a chance of error and if there is even a small chance of error, it makes more sense to err on the side of avoiding executing inoccent people. After all, the death penalty is in no way neccessary, so it's not really worth the risk.

4. It's not he death sentence nor the execution that are more costly...it's the appeals process.LJ

Regardless of the reasons for the costs, those costs still exist, making the dealth penalty the less cost effective option.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] 3. DNA makes that less and less likelyLJS9502_basic

Yet there is still a chance of error and if there is even a small chance of error, it makes more sense to err on the side of avoiding executing inoccent people. After all, the death penalty is in no way neccessary, so it's not really worth the risk.

4. It's not he death sentence nor the execution that are more costly...it's the appeals process.LJ

Regardless of the reasons for the costs, those costs still exist, making the dealth penalty the less cost effective option.

I didn't say your statements were not correct. I'm simply saying that those statements don't really work as an argument in favor of the death penalty, however correct they may be.

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Regardless of the reasons for the costs, those costs still exist, making the dealth penalty the less cost effective option.

GreySeal9

I didn't say your statements were not correct. I'm simply saying that those statements don't really work as an argument in favor of the death penalty, however correct they may be.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] But both my points are correct...LJS9502_basic

I didn't say your statements were not correct. I'm simply saying that those statements don't really work as an argument in favor of the death penalty, however correct they may be.

Ah, ok. I just assumed they were because of the particular post you responded to.

But anyway, what I've never understood is why some people (not you) think it's neccesary to have a death penalty even in spite of the risk of killing innocent people and the added costs. What makes the death penalty so valuable that killing innocent people and spending more money is desirable?

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I didn't say your statements were not correct. I'm simply saying that those statements don't really work as an argument in favor of the death penalty, however correct they may be.

GreySeal9

Ah, ok. I just assumed they were because of the particular post you responded to.

But anyway, what I've never understood is why some people (not you) think it's neccesary to have a death penalty even in spite of the risk of killing innocent people and the added costs. What makes the death penalty so valuable that killing innocent people and spending more money is desirable?

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] They weren't intended to be used a such.:|LJS9502_basic

Ah, ok. I just assumed they were because of the particular post you responded to.

But anyway, what I've never understood is why some people (not you) think it's neccesary to have a death penalty even in spite of the risk of killing innocent people and the added costs. What makes the death penalty so valuable that killing innocent people and spending more money is desirable?

I'm not into that myself, but different strokes and all that. 

But props for actually taking the sanctity of life seriously unlike some prolifers.

As long as the person is removed from society for the rest of their life, I support whatever method is the cheapest

Yes, kill them all...and let God  separate the innocent.

Don't know, and don't really care whether these criminals are incarcerated or given the death sentence.