States look to Internet taxes to close budget gaps

It was only a matter of time. Texas has something similar where no matter where you live, if you order online from Texas, you have to pay their tax. If states all have their own internet tax ontop of that, ordering from TX will be really expensive (double tax). :P

It was only a matter of time. Texas has something similar where no matter where you live, if you order online from Texas, you have to pay their tax. If states all have their own internet tax ontop of that, ordering from TX will be really expensive (double tax). :P

Pirate700

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It was only a matter of time. Texas has something similar where no matter where you live, if you order online from Texas, you have to pay their tax. If states all have their own internet tax ontop of that, ordering from TX will be really expensive (double tax). :P

topsemag55

I have no problem with this in theory, but I'm not sure how it can practically be enforced.

I have no problem with this in theory, but I'm not sure how it can practically be enforced.

worlock77

Um... If legislation is passed that allows them to tax online retailers it will be enforced the same way local retailers are taxed... If they wish to remain incorporated and provide services in that state they will charge tax on products and pay the government...

I have no problem with this in theory, but I'm not sure how it can practically be enforced.

worlock77

This is so dumb. Eventually there will be a time where every single little thing you do is taxed. Why should we have pay for s*** like this when it was our dumb governement's fault for screwing up the budget anyway?

Well fortunately for me, voters in Oregon think that property taxes are a better way to get tax revenue than sales taxes, so I'm not effected :D

That raises the number of good things about Oregon to the astounding total of... One.

Well fortunately for me, voters in Oregon think that property taxes are a better way to get tax revenue than sales taxes, so I'm not effected :D

That raises the number of good things about Oregon to the astounding total of... One.

MetroidPrimePwn

I live in Kentucky,

were behind on many things, but not taxes:(

I had to pay the +6% on amazon for years now.

I live in Kentucky,

were behind on many things, but not taxes:(

I had to pay the +6% on amazon for years now.

dercoo

How close to bordering states do you live? Could always get a PO box there :P

I live in southern Ohio, and a weapon I bought recently couldn't be shipped to Ohio... So I just moseyed on down to Newport, Kentucky, rented a PO box... Had it shipped to Kentucky, picked it up, moseyed on back across the river... :D

Good thing my state has no budget deficit then. One of the very few perks of living in Arkansas.

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I have no problem with this in theory, but I'm not sure how it can practically be enforced.

LJS9502_basic

No kidding? Yes, I understand the concept. Here's the thing though: say Online Retailer A is based in Tennessee. They ship an order to a resident in alaska, but decide to not charge that person sales tax. How do authorities in Alaska enforce this sales tax? Do they file charges against the retailer? If that's the case are the charges filed in Alaska, or Tennessee or in a Federal court? Is it even worth the time, effort and expense to do so?

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

I live in Kentucky,

were behind on many things, but not taxes:(

I had to pay the +6% on amazon for years now.

Buttons1990

How close to bordering states do you live? Could always get a PO box there :P

I live in southern Ohio, and a weapon I bought recently couldn't be shipped to Ohio... So I just moseyed on down to Newport, Kentucky, rented a PO box... Had it shipped to Kentucky, picked it up, moseyed on back across the river... :D

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Well, derp, Big Corporate Lobbyists will automatically have this shut out because they know alot of people prefer online services for shopping because of the traditional No Tax/ Free Shipping that keeps people flocking to their websites.

One way or another you pay property tax...LJS9502_basic

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

I have no problem with this in theory, but I'm not sure how it can practically be enforced.

worlock77

No kidding? Yes, I understand the concept. Here's the thing though: say Online Retailer A is based in Tennessee. They ship an order to a resident in alaska, but decide to not charge that person sales tax. How do authorities in Alaska enforce this sales tax? Do they file charges against the retailer? If that's the case are the charges filed in Alaska, or Tennessee or in a Federal court? Is it even worth the time, effort and expense to do so?

Here's a new concept....stop spending money that you don't have. And the population needs to stop holding their hands out for the money as well.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Here's a new concept....stop spending money that you don't have. And the population needs to stop holding their hands out for the money as well.mattbbpl

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Here's a new concept....stop spending money that you don't have. And the population needs to stop holding their hands out for the money as well.mattbbpl

If brick and mortars are taxed, then internet stores should be taxed as well. Only taxing one of them creates an unfair competitive advantage that unbalances the market.

If brick and mortars are taxed, then internet stores should be taxed as well. Only taxing one of them creates an unfair competitive advantage that unbalances the market.

Archon_basic

If brick and mortars are taxed, then internet stores should be taxed as well. Only taxing one of them creates an unfair competitive advantage that unbalances the market.

Archon_basic

The only good thing about this tax is that it affects everyone. For all those clamoring about getting more and more services, now they are going to feel a little of that. If you want to have good social services, you have to pay for them. Not rely on everyone else. If this helps benefit the states, then I dont mind paying the sales tax.

I find it ironic that Wal-Mart is complaining about something that they themselves have pulled. While I do shop at Wally World sometimes, I prefer to spend my money elsewhere, even if it does cost me a bit more for the product and usually, it's a better product. One has to laugh at them now that the shoe is on the other foot.

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If brick and mortars are taxed, then internet stores should be taxed as well. Only taxing one of them creates an unfair competitive advantage that unbalances the market.

topsemag55

[QUOTE="Archon_basic"]

If brick and mortars are taxed, then internet stores should be taxed as well. Only taxing one of them creates an unfair competitive advantage that unbalances the market.

LJS9502_basic

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If brick and mortars are taxed, then internet stores should be taxed as well. Only taxing one of them creates an unfair competitive advantage that unbalances the market.

Archon_basic

You're going to pay for shipping however, which is probably going to be just as much, if not more than the tax you'd pay at your local retailer.

I think we need younger representives in the government if we want the internet to survive. The older people don't seem to understand its importance.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Archon_basic"]

If brick and mortars are taxed, then internet stores should be taxed as well. Only taxing one of them creates an unfair competitive advantage that unbalances the market.

Archon_basic

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Here's a new concept....stop spending money that you don't have. And the population needs to stop holding their hands out for the money as well.LJS9502_basic

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Different states have different tax bases. If I went to a state with a lower tax base to purchase I wouldn't be charged my rate. Which internet stores do. And if the government is for opening up between state lines then the first thing they should do is allow medical insurance to be bought.worlock77

You're going to pay for shipping however, which is probably going to be just as much, if not more than the tax you'd pay at your local retailer.

[QUOTE="Archon_basic"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Different states have different tax bases. If I went to a state with a lower tax base to purchase I wouldn't be charged my rate. Which internet stores do. And if the government is for opening up between state lines then the first thing they should do is allow medical insurance to be bought.LJS9502_basic

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[QUOTE="Archon_basic"]Of course you'll be charged a different tax rate for buying something in another state, but that's a fairly unusual occurrence. However, online retailers are essentially a loophole to avoid sales tax all together. Why pay $3 in sales tax to buy a game at my local store when Amazon can sell it to me without any tax? The local store is at a severe disadvantage that is caused by unequal taxation laws. As for insurance, I agree with you completely. That's another example of the government disrupting the free market, though in a different way than the sales tax issue.

Archon_basic

You're going to pay for shipping however, which is probably going to be just as much, if not more than the tax you'd pay at your local retailer.

Oh I don't disagree with taxing online retailers. I just don't think it's a factor for most people in deciding whether to buy online or at the local brick-and-morter.

Damn it, I like my tax free stuff from amazon. :(chessmaster1989

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Here's a new concept....stop spending money that you don't have. And the population needs to stop holding their hands out for the money as well.LJS9502_basic

This makes absolutely NOsense when the taxes we have paid for the past decade rivals that of the Truman era... The only raising in taxes that have been even SUGGESTED have been of 90's levels..

This won't work and has been tried before in other states. Amazon will just cut their subsidaries in the said state, which will ensure that they have 0 physical presence in the state. This will cause the state to LOSE JOBS and lose tax revenue. This is such a stupid idea that it could only be encouraged by politicians. Source :http://chicagoist.com/2011/01/08/the_bad_math_of_the_amazon_tax.php