Socialism or Capitalism?

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#1 Posted by Vuurk (6258 posts) -

Which do you support.

I am a supporter of Capitalism.

#2 Posted by Necrifer (10629 posts) -

I too support Capitalism.

And there are other things besides Capitalism and Socialism.

#3 Posted by trialxerror (431 posts) -

I support freedom.

#4 Posted by DroidPhysX (17088 posts) -

Socialism by far. I've already had multiple expierences where I've gotten my ass kicked by corporations, from my health insurer dropping me for no reason (pulled out the Obamacare card where you're insured until 26 on parents, nice try IBC) to where my loan issuer was trying to be funny and raise a fixed interest rate.

#5 Posted by DoomZaW (6470 posts) -

Capitalism lets those who want to form unity do so, Socialism forces you to.

#6 Posted by chessmaster1989 (29062 posts) -
A mixed economy (leaning more towards capitalism) like we have now is best.
#7 Posted by SolidSnake35 (58030 posts) -
I'd say I lean more socialist... but, of course, it needs to be done right. You can't let people take advantage of being poor, for example.
#8 Posted by SolidSnake35 (58030 posts) -

Capitalism lets those who want to form unity do so, Socialism forces you to.

DoomZaW
Who would form a unity with the poor?
#9 Posted by Ilovegames1992 (14221 posts) -

Most humans tend not to lean towards helping their fellow humans so i would guess most vote for Capitalism. I voted for Socialism for teh lulz.

#10 Posted by DroidPhysX (17088 posts) -

Also, a persons upbringing factors into thier choice. I've noticed that people who were brought up in higher income families tended to be more capitalist.

#11 Posted by Socijalisticka (1609 posts) -

A form of National Socialism.

Also Socialism is not pampering as your poll suggests (charity is a characteristic of captialism).

#12 Posted by CRS98 (9036 posts) -
Socialism seems ideal.
#13 Posted by theone86 (20555 posts) -

A little bit from column A, a little from column B.

#14 Posted by YUDODIS (9 posts) -
Why do you think that socialism would give you 'free stuff'?
#15 Posted by delol (8793 posts) -

What about socio-capitalism Use people money to save the Banks an reduce all wellfare state Tea Party can give you a much better explanation of this than i ever could

#16 Posted by markop2003 (29917 posts) -
Capitalism, i like the idea of socialism in a utopia but we do not live in such a place. Therefore i support a pretty bare bones capitalist society, education and security would be the only parts which would be exempt.
#17 Posted by Alex3796 (2669 posts) -
Mixed.
#18 Posted by delol (8793 posts) -
Social security or the weapons bussiness?
#19 Posted by T_P_O (5388 posts) -

"Whichever one gives me free stuff (socialism)"

Ha, die.

#20 Posted by Socijalisticka (1609 posts) -

Capitalism, i like the idea of socialism in a utopia but we do not live in such a place. Therefore i support a pretty bare bones capitalist society, education and security would be the only parts which would be exempt. markop2003

Socialism does exist as a state and has been successful for numerous European nations, I would hardly call that utopic.

#21 Posted by Vuurk (6258 posts) -

A form of National Socialism.

Also Socialism is not pampering as your poll suggests (charity is a characteristic of captialism).

Socijalisticka
Voluntary charity yes. Not forced redistribution of wealth.
#22 Posted by Vuurk (6258 posts) -
It scares me that this is nearly 50-50. O_o
#23 Posted by DroidPhysX (17088 posts) -

It scares me that this is nearly 50-50. O_oVuurk
You expected a capitalist rout? :?

#24 Posted by foxhound_fox (87329 posts) -
Well not socialism, because it is anti-Christian, anti-productivity, anti-American dream and most importantly, it is anti-human. [spoiler] I support a society that doesn't allow a large disparity between rich and poor, but still allows people to benefit from their own labour and be free in their beliefs and thoughts. So definitely a more socialist-oriented society, but not full-on communism. There is no benefit to having the "super rich" control the majority of the country's wealth, however, redistribution is also unfair, as it takes away the drive for people to do well. If there is some kind of balance point between what the US practices and pure socialism/communism, then I support that. [/spoiler]
#25 Posted by surrealnumber5 (23044 posts) -
do you want to be upwardly mobile or do you just want the basics? do you want to work your ass off or do you want to just be? i'll go with a shot at greatness any day of the week.
#26 Posted by Vuurk (6258 posts) -

[QUOTE="Vuurk"]It scares me that this is nearly 50-50. O_oDroidPhysX

You expected a capitalist rout? :?

Well, I think it'd be hard to find many economists who wouldn't lean more toward capitalism than socialism. Obviously, you can't really classify an entire economy as either capitalist or socialist. It is more of a scale. But people who have really studied the subject in depth tend to be more in favor of capitalism than socialism. I guess since this is the off-topic forums of a gaming website, it is logical that there would be many people who favor an economic system that sounds good (socialism) until you really have a good grasp of economics.
#27 Posted by Genesis-X (220 posts) -
A mixture of the two is best, but if I had to choose then Team Socialism ftw.
#28 Posted by markop2003 (29917 posts) -

[QUOTE="markop2003"]Capitalism, i like the idea of socialism in a utopia but we do not live in such a place. Therefore i support a pretty bare bones capitalist society, education and security would be the only parts which would be exempt. Socijalisticka

Socialism does exist as a state and has been successful for numerous European nations, I would hardly call that utopic.

*scratches head* At what point did i say it wouldn't be functional? Monarchies and dictatorships are perfectly functional too, that dosn't mean they're good things.
#29 Posted by Ilovegames1992 (14221 posts) -

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="Vuurk"]It scares me that this is nearly 50-50. O_oVuurk

You expected a capitalist rout? :?

Well, I think it'd be hard to find many economists who wouldn't lean more toward capitalism than socialism. Obviously, you can't really classify an entire economy as either capitalist or socialist. It is more of a scale. But people who have really studied the subject in depth tend to be more in favor of capitalism than socialism. I guess since this is the off-topic forums of a gaming website, it is logical that there would be many people who favor an economic system that sounds good (socialism) until you really have a good grasp of economics.

I'm assuming we could factor in all elements, economy, morality etc Not just from an economical standpoint.

#30 Posted by -Sun_Tzu- (17379 posts) -

I voted for socialism just to put it ahead in the poll \o/

But I am for freedom

#32 Posted by OrkHammer007 (4751 posts) -

Capitalism, because the idea of putting every economic decision in the hands of the same idiots who run the DMV scares the **** out of me.

#33 Posted by worlock77 (22547 posts) -

The TC seems to be of the mistaken belief that the two are mutually exclusive, when in fact many countries have a mixed system. The United States is one notable example of this.

#34 Posted by Vuurk (6258 posts) -

The TC seems to be of the mistaken belief that the two are mutually exclusive, when in fact many countries have a mixed system. The United States is one notable example of this.

worlock77
No, I understand very well as I described previously that there are a variety of economic systems other than these and that you can't classify an entire country as either capitalist or socialist but rather where it lies on a scale. However, for simplicity purposes and out of my own curiosity, I wanted to see which general economic system most gamespot users supported. Thus, my decision to only have 2 primary options in the poll with the 3rd added as a joke.
#35 Posted by dunl12496 (5710 posts) -

Wow, ton of radicals on here. :P

#36 Posted by worlock77 (22547 posts) -

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

The TC seems to be of the mistaken belief that the two are mutually exclusive, when in fact many countries have a mixed system. The United States is one notable example of this.

Vuurk

No, I understand very well as I described previously that there are a variety of economic systems other than these and that you can't classify an entire country as either capitalist or socialist but rather where it lies on a scale. However, for simplicity purposes and out of my own curiosity, I wanted to see which general economic system most gamespot users supported. Thus, my decision to only have 2 primary options in the poll with the 3rd added as a joke.

I doubt you're going to find anyone here who truely favors a system that is completely one or the other.

#37 Posted by foxhound_fox (87329 posts) -
Wow, ton of radicals on here. :Pdunl12496
Yah I know, eh? They should come back to the logical, socialist side of the fence.
#38 Posted by Ace6301 (21388 posts) -
Mixed system works the best at the moment. Things like healthcare should be government run like most of Europe and Canada, though I wouldn't be opposed to small clinics being privately run. I've been screwed by corporations far more than the government (granted I live in Canada and for the most part the government is pretty good about the whole working for the people, though they can be overly bureaucratic but at least that's in the sake of personal privacy)
#39 Posted by Socijalisticka (1609 posts) -

[QUOTE="Socijalisticka"]

A form of National Socialism.

Also Socialism is not pampering as your poll suggests (charity is a characteristic of captialism).

Vuurk

Voluntary charity yes. Not forced redistribution of wealth.

Yes redistribution isn't charity, your point is?

#40 Posted by Socijalisticka (1609 posts) -

[QUOTE="Socijalisticka"]

[QUOTE="markop2003"]Capitalism, i like the idea of socialism in a utopia but we do not live in such a place. Therefore i support a pretty bare bones capitalist society, education and security would be the only parts which would be exempt. markop2003

Socialism does exist as a state and has been successful for numerous European nations, I would hardly call that utopic.

*scratches head* At what point did i say it wouldn't be functional? Monarchies and dictatorships are perfectly functional too, that dosn't mean they're good things.

I wasn't speaking of functionality either.

#41 Posted by Vuurk (6258 posts) -

[QUOTE="Vuurk"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

The TC seems to be of the mistaken belief that the two are mutually exclusive, when in fact many countries have a mixed system. The United States is one notable example of this.

worlock77

No, I understand very well as I described previously that there are a variety of economic systems other than these and that you can't classify an entire country as either capitalist or socialist but rather where it lies on a scale. However, for simplicity purposes and out of my own curiosity, I wanted to see which general economic system most gamespot users supported. Thus, my decision to only have 2 primary options in the poll with the 3rd added as a joke.

I doubt you're going to find anyone here who truely favors a system that is completely one or the other.

That is why as I have now stated 3 times, I am asking broadly whether people generally tend to favor a capitalism or socialism economic system.
#42 Posted by cybrcatter (16210 posts) -
A mixed economy (leaning more towards capitalism) like we have now is best.chessmaster1989
Word to your mother.
#43 Posted by Vuurk (6258 posts) -
[QUOTE="dunl12496"]Wow, ton of radicals on here. :Pfoxhound_fox
Yah I know, eh? They should come back to the logical, socialist side of the fence.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. (I really hope so)
#44 Posted by Vuurk (6258 posts) -

[QUOTE="Vuurk"][QUOTE="Socijalisticka"]

A form of National Socialism.

Also Socialism is not pampering as your poll suggests (charity is a characteristic of captialism).

Socijalisticka

Voluntary charity yes. Not forced redistribution of wealth.

Yes redistribution isn't charity, your point is?

Socialism forces you to give your money/resources to other people. Capitalism doesn't.
#45 Posted by Vuurk (6258 posts) -
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]A mixed economy (leaning more towards capitalism) like we have now is best.cybrcatter
Word to your mother.

Maybe with a little less crony capitalism than we have now though. =P
#46 Posted by Ilovegames1992 (14221 posts) -

[QUOTE="Socijalisticka"]

[QUOTE="Vuurk"] Voluntary charity yes. Not forced redistribution of wealth.Vuurk

Yes redistribution isn't charity, your point is?

Socialism forces you to give your money/resources to other people. Capitalism doesn't.

Society forces a lot of things, mainly for the good.

God knows how we'd be if it didnt.

#47 Posted by Overlord93 (12602 posts) -
Capitalism is an ancient system, it allows human advancement, but at the cost of freedom and equality. It is easily achieved by men despite their imperfections since it exploits those weaknesses. Socialism, and other similar movements are the future of politics, for a better world we all ought to be heading towards it. We have lived in capitalist societies since the stone age, the thing that separates us today from our societies 200 years ago, is our progression towards the left.
#48 Posted by hiphops_savior (7791 posts) -
Socialist public service (healthcare, education, post office, public transit, emergency department) and capitalist investment.
#49 Posted by sSubZerOo (43003 posts) -
Mixed economy.. Leaning too much in either direction is a bad idea imo.. Though I will say that right now we need to go the more government end... Simply due to the numerous deregulation we have seen.. And corporations really control the government, and our free market is more ran like a corporate feudalism than anything coming close to the democracy like powers workers had in earlier decades.