Socialism, Capitalism, Communism or Monarchy?

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#1 Posted by KOTORkicker (4595 posts) -

I'd like to see what the GS population think is the best form of government, or which is the worst.

(If the one you believe is best is not listed, please comment)

#2 Posted by BlackAlpha666 (2614 posts) -
Your poll is wrong. Capitalism and socialism are not forms of governments. Communism is an example of socialism.
#3 Posted by sonicare (53465 posts) -
Capitalism isn't a form of government.
#4 Posted by sonicare (53465 posts) -

Your poll is wrong. Capitalism and socialism are not forms of governments. Communism is an example of socialism.BlackAlpha666

Communism is a specific form of socialsim, but by pure definition communism is not socialism.

#5 Posted by mattyftm (7305 posts) -
Either socialism or communism. A monarchy has an unelected person in charge purely because they happen to be born into the right family. Capitalism has rich people in charge. At least socialism and communism tries to do what is best for the hard working normal people.
#6 Posted by H8sMikeMoore (5427 posts) -

I'd like to see what the GS population think is the best form of government, or which is the worst.

(If the one you believe is best is not listed, please comment)

KOTORkicker

i voted capitalist, because logically speaking its the only one that can benefit anyone.

I know you didnt mean government either.

and of course, theres gonna be all the 16 year olds saying socialism and communism is best. pretty easy to say while you're hanging out at home on the internet, while people in actual socialist countries are starving ;)

#7 Posted by sonicare (53465 posts) -
In theory, communims or socialism are nice ideas. In practice, they've been horrible and usually result in an oppressive ruling party that controls all the power.
#8 Posted by 11Marcel (7241 posts) -
Something in between capitalism and socialism. Successful people get rewarded plenty, but with good healthcare for everyone and basic services being done by government (electricity, water etc.). Oh, and democracy of course.
#9 Posted by KOTORkicker (4595 posts) -

[QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"]Your poll is wrong. Capitalism and socialism are not forms of governments. Communism is an example of socialism.sonicare

Communism is a specific form of socialsim, but by pure definition communism is not socialism.

Capitalism isn't a form of government.sonicare
Your poll is wrong. Capitalism and socialism are not forms of governments. Communism is an example of socialism.BlackAlpha666

What I meant was what system by pure habit of a country rather than the actual official system.

#10 Posted by mattyftm (7305 posts) -

and of course, theres gonna be all the 16 year olds saying socialism and communism is best. pretty easy to say while you're hanging out at home on the internet, while people in actual socialist countries are starving ;)

H8sMikeMoore

Not everyone who supports communism is a 16 year old who doesn't know what they're talking about. I support it, and while I may only be 19, I support it because I have learned about it from both my grandad and uncle who are both supporters of it.

And while you are right that socialism has never worked well in the past, it is a great idea, and just because it hasn't worked in the past, doesn't mean it can't work in the future. If everyone gave up every time a good idea failed where would we be now? Still living in caves probably. We need to work at it and try to find a way to get it to work properly.

#11 Posted by BlackAlpha666 (2614 posts) -

[QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"]Your poll is wrong. Capitalism and socialism are not forms of governments. Communism is an example of socialism.sonicare

Communism is a specific form of socialsim, but by pure definition communism is not socialism.

Yes, you are right.

And I picked capitalism. In a perfect world I might choose communism/socialism.

#13 Posted by sentencedogu (3823 posts) -
aren't socialism and capitalism economic systems?
#14 Posted by X4D (1161 posts) -

None of them. Monarchy is undemocratic and by definition puts the interests of the monarch above the people. Communism is too extreme and like monarchy results in authoritarian governments. Capitalism is based on greed and results in extremely unequal wealth distribution. In order to counteract the negative effects of capitalism i'd go with social democracy. In fact, neither pure capitalism nor pure socialism do exist. Modern economies are by the most part mixed economies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_economy

#15 Posted by LJS9502_basic (150722 posts) -
While not a form of government....I picked capitalism.
#16 Posted by swizz-the-gamer (8801 posts) -
[QUOTE="KOTORkicker"]

I'd like to see what the GS population think is the best form of government, or which is the worst.

(If the one you believe is best is not listed, please comment)

H8sMikeMoore

i voted capitalist, because logically speaking its the only one that can benefit anyone.

I know you didnt mean government either.

and of course, theres gonna be all the 16 year olds saying socialism and communism is best. pretty easy to say while you're hanging out at home on the internet, while people in actual socialist countries are starving ;)

Yep no one goes hungry in capitalist country's!
#17 Posted by hiphops_savior (7877 posts) -
I'd probably pick social democracy. Capitalism can be good for competition, but some people cheat, exploit and commit numerous crimes just to get more digits in their books. Communism might be a good idea in theory, it's too bad time and time again proves that human nature makes it impossible to work.
#18 Posted by LJS9502_basic (150722 posts) -

None of them. Monarchy is undemocratic and by definition puts the interests of the monarch above the people. Communism is too extreme and like monarchy results in authoritarian governments. Capitalism is based on greed and results in extremely unequal wealth distribution. In order to counteract the negative effects of capitalism i'd go with social democracy.

X4D

The free market is set by supply and demand. If you are too greedy...you won't profit.

#19 Posted by H8sMikeMoore (5427 posts) -
[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="KOTORkicker"]

I'd like to see what the GS population think is the best form of government, or which is the worst.

(If the one you believe is best is not listed, please comment)

swizz-the-gamer

i voted capitalist, because logically speaking its the only one that can benefit anyone.

I know you didnt mean government either.

and of course, theres gonna be all the 16 year olds saying socialism and communism is best. pretty easy to say while you're hanging out at home on the internet, while people in actual socialist countries are starving ;)

Yep no one goes hungry in capitalist country's!

not like they do in socialist ones. if you were moral, youd tried to see as few people starve as possible.

at least in capitalism the bum on the street can ask for handouts and its really not a burden to give a few dollars.

#20 Posted by swizz-the-gamer (8801 posts) -
[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="KOTORkicker"]

I'd like to see what the GS population think is the best form of government, or which is the worst.

(If the one you believe is best is not listed, please comment)

H8sMikeMoore

i voted capitalist, because logically speaking its the only one that can benefit anyone.

I know you didnt mean government either.

and of course, theres gonna be all the 16 year olds saying socialism and communism is best. pretty easy to say while you're hanging out at home on the internet, while people in actual socialist countries are starving ;)

Yep no one goes hungry in capitalist country's!

not like they do in socialist ones. if you were moral, youd tried to see as few people starve as possible.

at least in capitalism the bum on the street can ask for handouts and its really not a burden to give a few dollars.

Yep. Some people can afford a helicopter some cant feed their children. Justice!
#21 Posted by mattyftm (7305 posts) -
[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="KOTORkicker"]

I'd like to see what the GS population think is the best form of government, or which is the worst.

(If the one you believe is best is not listed, please comment)

H8sMikeMoore

i voted capitalist, because logically speaking its the only one that can benefit anyone.

I know you didnt mean government either.

and of course, theres gonna be all the 16 year olds saying socialism and communism is best. pretty easy to say while you're hanging out at home on the internet, while people in actual socialist countries are starving ;)

Yep no one goes hungry in capitalist country's!

not like they do in socialist ones. if you were moral, youd tried to see as few people starve as possible.

at least in capitalism the bum on the street can ask for handouts and its really not a burden to give a few dollars.

There is nothing in socialism that prevents a bum on the street from asking for handouts. In socialism, there shouldn't even be a bum on the street. What you are refering to is totalitarianism. A form of govenment that communism/socialism often turns into due to corrupt governments.

#22 Posted by LJS9502_basic (150722 posts) -
Yep. Some people can afford a helicopter some cant feed their children. Justice!swizz-the-gamer
Capitalism is not a form of government. The government creates programs for public assistance so the poor can feed their children. What country are you talking about that uses the capitalist market and the government isn't helping the poor?
#23 Posted by H8sMikeMoore (5427 posts) -
[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="KOTORkicker"]

I'd like to see what the GS population think is the best form of government, or which is the worst.

(If the one you believe is best is not listed, please comment)

swizz-the-gamer

i voted capitalist, because logically speaking its the only one that can benefit anyone.

I know you didnt mean government either.

and of course, theres gonna be all the 16 year olds saying socialism and communism is best. pretty easy to say while you're hanging out at home on the internet, while people in actual socialist countries are starving ;)

Yep no one goes hungry in capitalist country's!

not like they do in socialist ones. if you were moral, youd tried to see as few people starve as possible.

at least in capitalism the bum on the street can ask for handouts and its really not a burden to give a few dollars.

Yep. Some people can afford a helicopter some cant feed their children. Justice!

thats how individualism works. ironic that "freer" markets end up with less starving people? God forbid anyone buy a helicopter!

guys like donald trump and bill gates donate more charity than socialist countries give out food. morallity dosent really exist in the socialist realm, only lazyness.

#24 Posted by H8sMikeMoore (5427 posts) -
[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="KOTORkicker"]

I'd like to see what the GS population think is the best form of government, or which is the worst.

(If the one you believe is best is not listed, please comment)

mattyftm

i voted capitalist, because logically speaking its the only one that can benefit anyone.

I know you didnt mean government either.

and of course, theres gonna be all the 16 year olds saying socialism and communism is best. pretty easy to say while you're hanging out at home on the internet, while people in actual socialist countries are starving ;)

Yep no one goes hungry in capitalist country's!

not like they do in socialist ones. if you were moral, youd tried to see as few people starve as possible.

at least in capitalism the bum on the street can ask for handouts and its really not a burden to give a few dollars.

There is nothing in socialism that prevents a bum on the street from asking for handouts. In socialism, there shouldn't even be a bum on the street. What you are refering to is totalitarianism. A form of govenment that communism/socialism often turns into due to corrupt governments.

I didnt say there was a bum on the street in socialism. I was talking about our starving people.

Socialist countries stretch themselves to thin. theres an inherit economic error. I forget the actual name of it, but Ludwig Von Mises talked about it alot.

#25 Posted by markop2003 (29917 posts) -
Capitalism, if super corperations are formed they'l gradually turn in to comunist states though, as long as that dosn't happen then capitalism is the best
#26 Posted by the1stfandb (2397 posts) -

Capitalism, the end.

Or Batmanism, its alot better then anything else.

#27 Posted by sonicare (53465 posts) -
[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="KOTORkicker"]

I'd like to see what the GS population think is the best form of government, or which is the worst.

(If the one you believe is best is not listed, please comment)

swizz-the-gamer

i voted capitalist, because logically speaking its the only one that can benefit anyone.

I know you didnt mean government either.

and of course, theres gonna be all the 16 year olds saying socialism and communism is best. pretty easy to say while you're hanging out at home on the internet, while people in actual socialist countries are starving ;)

Yep no one goes hungry in capitalist country's!

Capitalism is far from perfect. It has many flaws and pitfalls. However, I still consider it better than the other alternatives out there. Every attempt to implement socialsim on a large scale has resulted in oppressive governments that benefit only the small minority in "the party." The general person is still left impoverished and no better off.

People argue that these governments are not true socialism or communism, but what good is theory if it can't be successfuly implemented?

#28 Posted by Rikusaki (16365 posts) -

Either socialism or communism. A monarchy has an unelected person in charge purely because they happen to be born into the right family. Capitalism has rich people in charge. At least socialism and communism tries to do what is best for the hard working normal people.mattyftm

O.M.G. Someone that agrees with me!!!!

Where were you all this time!!??????

#29 Posted by Godly_Cure (4293 posts) -

Capitalism. Socialism and Communism just don't work and the Monarchy is outdated.

#30 Posted by Rikusaki (16365 posts) -

Socialism.

Everyone benefits, nobody is left out. :)

In capitalism, only the rich and wealthy benifit and the poor suffer.

And Monarchy is just stupid.

#31 Posted by Sajo7 (14049 posts) -
Did the TC think anyone was going to say monarchy? I mean there are a few left but still.
#32 Posted by Godly_Cure (4293 posts) -

Socialism.

Everyone benefits, nobody is left out. :)

In capitalism, only the rich and wealthy benifit and the poor suffer.

And Monarchy is just stupid.

Rikusaki
Capitalism is not a form of government.:|
#33 Posted by shoeman12 (8744 posts) -
capitalism is the best economy.
#34 Posted by mattyftm (7305 posts) -
[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Socialism.

Everyone benefits, nobody is left out. :)

In capitalism, only the rich and wealthy benifit and the poor suffer.

And Monarchy is just stupid.

Godly_Cure

Capitalism is not a form of government.:|

Seriously, how many times are people going to say that? Its been said tonnes of times. It doesn't need to be said again.

Capitalism is an ecconomic system. Ecconomic sysetems are one of the main influencing factors on the way a government runs. The TC didn't explain it properly, but everyone with more than one brain cell should know what he means and just answer the question rather than shouting "BUT TEH CAPITALISM IS NO TEH FROM OF GOVERMINT!!!"

#35 Posted by BlackAlpha666 (2614 posts) -

Socialism.

Everyone benefits, nobody is left out. :)

In capitalism, only the rich and wealthy benifit and the poor suffer.

And Monarchy is just stupid.

Rikusaki

Did you even read what the other people said? In theory it works like that but not in practice because the theory forgot that humans can be corrupt. So you end up with a rich guy, a few rich people underneath him and everyone else "equally" at the bottom, in the same poor condition.

#36 Posted by Godly_Cure (4293 posts) -

Seriously, how many times are people going to say that? Its been said tonnes of times. It doesn't need to be said again.

Capitalism is an ecconomic system. Ecconomic sysetems are one of the main influencing factors on the way a government runs. The TC didn't explain it properly, but everyone with more than one brain cell should know what he means and just answer the question rather than shouting "BUT TEH CAPITALISM IS NO TEH FROM OF GOVERNMENT!!!"

mattyftm
Perhaps because it's inaccurate to place it with forms of government for the purpose of comparing government. :|
#37 Posted by Rikusaki (16365 posts) -
[QUOTE="mattyftm"][QUOTE="Godly_Cure"]Capitalism is not a form of government.:|Godly_Cure

Seriously, how many times are people going to say that? Its been said tonnes of times. It doesn't need to be said again.

Capitalism is an ecconomic system. Ecconomic sysetems are one of the main influencing factors on the way a government runs. The TC didn't explain it properly, but everyone with more than one brain cell should know what he means and just answer the question rather than shouting "BUT TEH CAPITALISM IS NO TEH FROM OF GOVERNMENT!!!"

Perhaps because it's inaccurate to place it with forms of government for the purpose of comparing government. :|

lol ok, but socialism is still better IMO.

:| :| :| :| :| lol sorry, i just think this face is funny! :|

#38 Posted by KOTORkicker (4595 posts) -
I myself believe in Socialism (when applied properly)
#39 Posted by Godly_Cure (4293 posts) -

lol ok, but socialism is still better IMO.

:| :| :| :| :| lol sorry, i just think this face is funny! :|

Rikusaki
On what do you base this?
#40 Posted by soiguessialive (670 posts) -

[QUOTE="mattyftm"]Either socialism or communism. A monarchy has an unelected person in charge purely because they happen to be born into the right family. Capitalism has rich people in charge. At least socialism and communism tries to do what is best for the hard working normal people.Rikusaki

O.M.G. Someone that agrees with me!!!!

Where were you all this time!!??????

Obama doesn't. America is capitalist country and we help the poor

#41 Posted by X4D (1161 posts) -

Capitalism. Socialism and Communism just don't work and the Monarchy is outdated.

Godly_Cure

Communism is too extreme but socialism can work. Sweden for example is the most solid socialist state, yet it doesnt seem they are very poor nor that they are going down under.

#42 Posted by Godly_Cure (4293 posts) -
[QUOTE="Godly_Cure"]

Capitalism. Socialism and Communism just don't work and the Monarchy is outdated.

X4D

Communism is too extreme but socialism can work. Sweden for example is the most solid socialist state, yet it doesnt seem they are very poor nor that they are going down under.

Sweden uses a free market.
#43 Posted by -Wicked_Sick- (1171 posts) -
Capitalism is my vote. Works best.
#44 Posted by X4D (1161 posts) -

Sweden uses a free market.Godly_Cure

Still, an extensive range of services in Sweden are provided by state-owned enterprises, which are funded by one of the highest levels of taxation in Europe. They include health care, housing for the needy, education, and child care for working parents.

#45 Posted by Iron_will (2837 posts) -
Haruhiism, nuff said. :lol:
#46 Posted by -Wicked_Sick- (1171 posts) -

[QUOTE="Godly_Cure"]Sweden uses a free market.X4D

Still, an extensive range of services in Sweden are provided by state-owned enterprises, which are funded by one of the highest levels of taxation in Europe. They include health care, housing for the needy, education, and child care for working parents.

That would be a mix of the two then and not pure socialism.
#47 Posted by BlackAlpha666 (2614 posts) -

[QUOTE="Godly_Cure"]Sweden uses a free market.X4D

Still, an extensive range of services in Sweden are provided by state-owned enterprises, which are funded by one of the highest levels of taxation in Europe. They include health care, housing for the needy, education, and child care for working parents.

Well, seeing as how there is no socialism standard and socialism is a mix of different things that the country thinks is best, it's kind of hard to say that socialism is good and then compare it with a country that uses mixed systems. The only good things I see in socialism is government funded education, health care and some others. But you don't need a socialism based government to implement those things.

#48 Posted by sonicare (53465 posts) -

[QUOTE="Godly_Cure"]Sweden uses a free market.X4D

Still, an extensive range of services in Sweden are provided by state-owned enterprises, which are funded by one of the highest levels of taxation in Europe. They include health care, housing for the needy, education, and child care for working parents.

All countries implement some form of socialism. Taxes, themselves, are a way of redistributing wealth. Most countries with captialistic economies utilize and provide social services such as welfare, disability, health care, retirement, etc. These programs are funded by taxing the economy driven by capitalism.

#49 Posted by 11Marcel (7241 posts) -
A mix of capitalism and socialism is probably best. A big part of europe has this, with free market etc. and still minimum wage laws, social healthcare, education etc. Of course, it comes with a lot of taxes, but pretty much no one is really poor, and if you're decently successful you've got money to spare.
#50 Posted by Mr_sprinkles (6461 posts) -
A combination of both socialism and capitalism. Pure capitalism promotes exploitation. Pure socialism paves the way for laziness.