So uhh...Breaking Bad is...

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] It's for the preservation of Jesse as well. Let's assume you guys save Jane. Then Jesse and Jane they run off, spend all their money on drugs, and die from drug over-use. Good job, you just killed two people :P.Shottayouth13-

Considering some of the shit Walt's pulled I doubt he's really all that concered with Jesse's welfare for Jesse's own sake, but more so that he has a partner he can control.

[spoiler] Shit like, for instance, poisoning Jesse's girlfriend's kid and blaming it on Gustavo, when he saw that Jesse was gaining favor with Gus. [/spoiler]

The Walt/Jesse relationship is a complex one, and there's much more to it that Walt just using Jesse for his own benefit. From the conversation with Donald at the bar, you could tell that Walt had paternal feelings for Jesse and that's what compelled him to go to Jesse's house - he didn't like the direction he was heading in with all that drug use. He did try to genuinely help him, something just went horribly wrong in the process.

Jane would have probably overdosed sooner or later the way she was going and the plane crash may probably still have happened.
[/spoiler]

[spoiler] Because in spite of what he might say, or even tell himself for that matter, I'm not totally convinced that Walt's actions are entirely motivated by Jesse's well being.

Also, that Jane may have overdosed sooner or later does not excuse Walt's standing back watching as she dies. And the plane crash isn't really relevant to the question of Walt's motivations. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Considering some of the shit Walt's pulled I doubt he's really all that concered with Jesse's welfare for Jesse's own sake, but more so that he has a partner he can control.

[spoiler] Shit like, for instance, poisoning Jesse's girlfriend's kid and blaming it on Gustavo, when he saw that Jesse was gaining favor with Gus. [/spoiler]

worlock77

The Walt/Jesse relationship is a complex one, and there's much more to it that Walt just using Jesse for his own benefit. From the conversation with Donald at the bar, you could tell that Walt had paternal feelings for Jesse and that's what compelled him to go to Jesse's house - he didn't like the direction he was heading in with all that drug use. He did try to genuinely help him, something just went horribly wrong in the process.

Jane would have probably overdosed sooner or later the way she was going and the plane crash may probably still have happened.
[/spoiler]

[spoiler] Because in spite of what he might say, or even tell himself for that matter, I'm not totally convinced that Walt's actions are entirely motivated by Jesse's well being.

Also, that Jane may have overdosed sooner or later does not excuse Walt's standing back watching as she dies. And the plane crash isn't really relevant to the question of Walt's motivations. [/spoiler]

Yep. If you say so. I wonder why GoT has a larger, dedicated fanbase then. ShadowsDemon

Come on now. The amount of viewership rarely, if ever, reflects the actual quality of the show.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

The whole point of the show is to transform this mild-mannered, kind of a whimp of a teacher into basically Tony goddamn Montana. If you haven't been able to see the show building up to that then yeah, you've not understood it.

AFBrat77

No

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] No, I think I saw that pretty clearly. It's called feeling sorry for douchebags.....get the picture yet? And to the person that said you can't compare BB to GoT, you bloody well can. Except GoT is better.ShadowsDemon

No

Holy shit are you really saying "more fans = better"?

The Wire never had a large audience. That show must have been much worse than NCIS.
Arrested Development is nowhere near as good as Two and a Half Men.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"] [spoiler] How can you even say that? Walt put his head on the line for Jesse a good amount of times, throwing himself into situations that he knew would be detrimental to his own well being (killing Gus' men in order to save Jesse's life.)

The Walt/Jesse relationship is a complex one, and there's much more to it that Walt just using Jesse for his own benefit. From the conversation with Donald at the bar, you could tell that Walt had paternal feelings for Jesse and that's what compelled him to go to Jesse's house - he didn't like the direction he was heading in with all that drug use. He did try to genuinely help him, something just went horribly wrong in the process.

Jane would have probably overdosed sooner or later the way she was going and the plane crash may probably still have happened.
[/spoiler]

Shottayouth13-

[spoiler] Because in spite of what he might say, or even tell himself for that matter, I'm not totally convinced that Walt's actions are entirely motivated by Jesse's well being.

Also, that Jane may have overdosed sooner or later does not excuse Walt's standing back watching as she dies. And the plane crash isn't really relevant to the question of Walt's motivations. [/spoiler]

I never said that he was completely using Jesse, but.....

[spoiler] Allowing Jane to die, whatever the justification he might use, flipping his shit when Jesse wanted to start cooking again when he (Walt that is) said he didn't want to, poisoning Brock to turn Jesse against Gustavo, and the way he frequently berates and talks down to Jesse are kinda the actions of a controlling dick. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]

Also, to whoever praised the episode "Fly" and how good it was, I'll just leave it at this.

dave123321

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]

Also, to whoever praised the episode "Fly" and how good it was, I'll just leave it at this.

dave123321

I did feel "The Fly" needed to be seen a 2nd time to appreciate it. I think Season 3 was an alltogether great Season, particularly the last 2 episodes.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]

Yep. If you say so. I wonder why GoT has a larger, dedicated fanbase then. drinkerofjuice

Come on now. The amount of viewership rarely, if ever, reflects the actual quality of the show.

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="dave123321"] It's posts like this that make people think you have missed out on some stuff I mean you can certainly critique if the episode was sussesful in what it was trying to do. Feeling that it was a good episode or if it failed in reaching the themes and character stuff it wanted to explore. Among other stuff. Would certainly understand a person hating the episode.AFBrat77

I did feel "The Fly" needed to be seen a 2nd time to appreciate it. I think Season 3 was an alltogether great Season, particularly the last 2 episodes.

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] No, I think I saw that pretty clearly. It's called feeling sorry for douchebags.....get the picture yet? And to the person that said you can't compare BB to GoT, you bloody well can. Except GoT is better.ShadowsDemon

No

[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]

Yep. If you say so. I wonder why GoT has a larger, dedicated fanbase then. ShadowsDemon

Come on now. The amount of viewership rarely, if ever, reflects the actual quality of the show.

Comparing Breaking Bad to Games of Thrones is one of the stupidest things I've read on this board in a while, and everyone involved in that conversation should be ashamed of themselves.

worlock77

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"] By that logic, The Walking Dead is the best show on TV because its fanbase/viewship is much higher. Also, The Wire is one of the worst shows ever because it seriously struggled in ratings.

Come on now. The amount of viewership rarely, if ever, reflects the actual quality of the show.

heeweesRus

This is still sillydave123321

[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

i found them quite underwhelming.

started with some promise, silent killers. then they just became meh.

konvikt_17

[spoiler] He had help:P

just figured they would have put up more a fight.

yea am curious what he will do. i dont think he will go after Walter or at least not at first.

[/spoiler]

I think he will though, it's his most beloved case! :shock: 

There's only 8 episodes left, and Hank's the only real antagonist left. [/spoiler]

Comparing Breaking Bad to Games of Thrones is one of the stupidest things I've read on this board in a while, and everyone involved in that conversation should be ashamed of themselves.

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Okay, maybe not, but GoT was originally an effort of a single guy in his spare time who wrote over 2 million words for his book series. BB is a collective effort by multiple people. For me, it's easy to see which one is better. ShadowsDemon

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="heeweesRus"] Funny how you fail to mention that GoT's budget is much much larger than Breaking Bad's budget.

heeweesRus

Parks and Recreation>Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones

Parks and Recreation>Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones

DharmaMember77

[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

Parks and Recreation>Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones

JML897

[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

Parks and Recreation>Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones

JML897

Yeah I've been on a real Parks and Rec high because of the two new episodes that aired back to back tonight.

[QUOTE="JML897"][QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

Parks and Recreation>Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones

Razor-Lazor

Season 1 is shaky but once you start season 2 it's fantastic.

[QUOTE="JML897"][QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

Parks and Recreation>Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones

Razor-Lazor

TC, are you caught up with the show?dave123321

Yup

am now impatiently waiting for August.

Never really liked the twins from BB. Felt their portrayal was a bit too *some word I can't think of right now*dave123321

i found them quite underwhelming.

started with some promise, silent killers. then they just became meh.

Parks and Recreation>Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones

DharmaMember77

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Never really liked the twins from BB. Felt their portrayal was a bit too *some word I can't think of right now*konvikt_17

i found them quite underwhelming.

started with some promise, silent killers. then they just became meh.

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Never really liked the twins from BB. Felt their portrayal was a bit too *some word I can't think of right now*konvikt_17

i found them quite underwhelming.

started with some promise, silent killers. then they just became meh.

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Never really liked the twins from BB. Felt their portrayal was a bit too *some word I can't think of right now*KHAndAnime

i found them quite underwhelming.

started with some promise, silent killers. then they just became meh.

by silent i meant they didnt really say much.:P

i liked them but i felt they could have been used a tad bit more.

they fizzled too soon.

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

i found them quite underwhelming.

started with some promise, silent killers. then they just became meh.

konvikt_17

by silent i meant they didnt really say much.:P

i liked them but i felt they could have been used a tad bit more.

they fizzled too soon.

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Never really liked the twins from BB. Felt their portrayal was a bit too *some word I can't think of right now*Shottayouth13-

i found them quite underwhelming.

started with some promise, silent killers. then they just became meh.

[spoiler] He had help:P

just figured they would have put up more a fight.

yea am curious what he will do. i dont think he will go after Walter or at least not at first.

[/spoiler]

[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

Parks and Recreation>Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones

cain006

Seasons 2 and 3 of The Office are classics but I think Parks and Rec has stayed much more consistent and avoided all of the mistakes that The Office made during it's run.

[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

Parks and Recreation>Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones

DharmaMember77

Seasons 2 and 3 of The Office are classics but I think Parks and Rec has stayed much more consistent and avoided all of the mistakes that The Office made during it's run.