Should it be illegal to resell severely damaged cars as normal used cars?

This really burns me up, there are used car dealerships out there that sell cars that have been completly totaled. They get "Salvage" titles and then sell these cars after they have repaired the body damage. they still have frame damage, possible engine problems, etc. I feel like the government should crack down on these dealerships doing this to people because there's no reason for it. Totaled cars should be banned from being resold and immediately destoryed. Any thoughts on this?

No. They aren't forcing you to purchase are they? Man you seem unhappy in all your posts....cheer the f*ck up dude. Life's an adventure......

Whenever something is sold "as-is", it should be a given that the consumer should know that something could be up with whatever the item is. It shouldn't be illegal just because someone is dumb enough to buy the item without looking farther into it.

Nope. If you decide to save a few bucks and get a car "as is" instead of saving up to get something of better quality, or don't do your research beforehand, then that's complely on you.

Caveat emptor--Let the buyer beware.

Why are you so hostile to the idea of people choosing what to buy with their money? Nobody is forcing people to buy these cars.Laihendi

These are usually cars with a low downpayment, so the attract poorer people that might have just gotten a new job and need a vehicle. They keep you at the dealership for HOURS and then only let you know about the Salvage title after the paper work has started. If you refuse at that point not only have you wasted an entire day, but you had to get a ride to that dealership, so you have to call back whoever took you around in the first place. I just feel like there should be more protections for the buyer in this case because the dealership manipulates these cars (removing air bags, check engine lights, duct taping parts together) and when dealing with the public you should be more honest.

Why not protect people from clear predatory practices? It's like those payday loans, they are just ripping poor people off because they are in a tough spot. How can that be considered the right thing to do and how can you stand okay with such things taking place?

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]Why are you so hostile to the idea of people choosing what to buy with their money? Nobody is forcing people to buy these cars.Yusuke420

These are usually cars with a low downpayment, so the attract poorer people that might have just gotten a new job and need a vehicle. They keep you at the dealership for HOURS and then only let you know about the Salvage title after the paper work has started. If you refuse at that point not only have you wasted an entire day, but you had to get a ride to that dealership, so you have to call back whoever took you around in the first place. I just feel like there should be more protections for the buyer in this case because the dealership manipulates these cars (removing air bags, check engine lights, duct taping parts together) and when dealing with the public you should be more honest.

Why not protect people from clear predatory practices? It's like those payday loans, they are just ripping poor people off because they are in a tough spot. How can that be considered the right thing to do and how can you stand okay with such things taking place?

Yusuke420

Full disclosure here, I have a car with a Salvage title in my possesion now, but it works really good for the most part (there some minor things with the driver side door but that it everything else is really nice). That being said though why is it so hard to just have people be honest from the get go? Why continue to allow people to be ripped off if you can do something about it? You guys wouldn't support a con artist so how is this any different? Simply because it's a business?

Why not protect people from clear predatory practices? It's like those payday loans, they are just ripping poor people off because they are in a tough spot. How can that be considered the right thing to do and how can you stand okay with such things taking place?

Yusuke420

Nah, people should have things checked out before they buy. Personally when I see "sold as is" I automatically think that something's wrong and avoid that product.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]Why are you so hostile to the idea of people choosing what to buy with their money? Nobody is forcing people to buy these cars.Yusuke420

These are usually cars with a low downpayment, so the attract poorer people that might have just gotten a new job and need a vehicle. They keep you at the dealership for HOURS and then only let you know about the Salvage title after the paper work has started. If you refuse at that point not only have you wasted an entire day, but you had to get a ride to that dealership, so you have to call back whoever took you around in the first place. I just feel like there should be more protections for the buyer in this case because the dealership manipulates these cars (removing air bags, check engine lights, duct taping parts together) and when dealing with the public you should be more honest.

Why not protect people from clear predatory practices? It's like those payday loans, they are just ripping poor people off because they are in a tough spot. How can that be considered the right thing to do and how can you stand okay with such things taking place?

kinda reminds me of those people who thought they were buying a $250 psp on ebay for $20 and got a box with sand in it instead... at some point common sense needs to kick in.comp_atkins

Those people aren't the bad people that lied though, why are you sticking up for con artists? To address other comments made, from what I understand a salvage title is issued when a car is repaired after being totaled out. I just want people to get good things for the money they pay and I don't think that's to much to ask. I do think the government has a role in consumer protections, we can't let people commit fraud and get away with it because someone is ignorant of certain aspects. You can't expect everyone to know everything or even have access to someone that does

Or just don't buy from them. Problem solved.

The government doesn't need to replace common sense. If you're buying a car, even if you're poor, you should ask for a vehicle history report. If there is none, then don't buy it. It's really common sense.

[QUOTE="lowkey254"]

Nah, people should have things checked out before they buy. Personally when I see "sold as is" I automatically think that something's wrong and avoid that product.

thegerg

I just want people to get good things for the money they payYusuke420

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]kinda reminds me of those people who thought they were buying a $250 psp on ebay for $20 and got a box with sand in it instead... at some point common sense needs to kick in.Yusuke420

Those people aren't the bad people that lied though, why are you sticking up for con artists? To address other comments made, from what I understand a salvage title is issued when a car is repaired after being totaled out. I just want people to get good things for the money they pay and I don't think that's to much to ask. I do think the government has a role in consumer protections, we can't let people commit fraud and get away with it because someone is ignorant of certain aspects. You can't expect everyone to know everything or even have access to someone that does

[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="lowkey254"]

Nah, people should have things checked out before they buy. Personally when I see "sold as is" I automatically think that something's wrong and avoid that product.

lowkey254

Are they selling the cars as something other than "as-is"? Zeviander

Or just don't buy from them. Problem solved.

The government doesn't need to replace common sense. If you're buying a car, even if you're poor, you should ask for a vehicle history report. If there is none, then don't buy it. It's really common sense.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]kinda reminds me of those people who thought they were buying a $250 psp on ebay for $20 and got a box with sand in it instead... at some point common sense needs to kick in.Yusuke420

Those people aren't the bad people that lied though, why are you sticking up for con artists? To address other comments made, from what I understand a salvage title is issued when a car is repaired after being totaled out. I just want people to get good things for the money they pay and I don't think that's to much to ask. I do think the government has a role in consumer protections, we can't let people commit fraud and get away with it because someone is ignorant of certain aspects. You can't expect everyone to know everything or even have access to someone that does

and it's hard to get people to ride you around (even if you do things for them but that's another thread for another time)Yusuke420

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]kinda reminds me of those people who thought they were buying a $250 psp on ebay for $20 and got a box with sand in it instead... at some point common sense needs to kick in.Yusuke420

Those people aren't the bad people that lied though, why are you sticking up for con artists? To address other comments made, from what I understand a salvage title is issued when a car is repaired after being totaled out. I just want people to get good things for the money they pay and I don't think that's to much to ask. I do think the government has a role in consumer protections, we can't let people commit fraud and get away with it because someone is ignorant of certain aspects. You can't expect everyone to know everything or even have access to someone that does

This. I don't understand the accusations of fraud and being a conman. MrPraline

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]and it's hard to get people to ride you around (even if you do things for them but that's another thread for another time)MrPraline

Nope. Don't buy it unless you know what you're getting.

I need to edit my title because I don't have a problem with as-is, but dealerships buying these wreaked cars and then reselling them. About the state inspection, it's well known that these shady dealers have inspectors on the take that will certify anything, so it doesn't really offer the consumer any protection. It seems like it's required to be a total sleeze bag to work in the low downpayment used car industry. I'm sure everyone would buy new if they could afford it.

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

I need to edit my title because I don't have a problem with as-is, but dealerships buying these wreaked cars and then reselling them. About the state inspection, it's well known that these shady dealers have inspectors on the take that will certify anything, so it doesn't really offer the consumer any protection. It seems like it's required to be a total sleeze bag to work in the low downpayment used car industry. I'm sure everyone would buy new if they could afford it.

thegerg

I need to edit my title because I don't have a problem with as-is, but dealerships buying these wreaked cars and then reselling them. About the state inspection, it's well known that these shady dealers have inspectors on the take that will certify anything, so it doesn't really offer the consumer any protection. It seems like it's required to be a total sleeze bag to work in the low downpayment used car industry. I'm sure everyone would buy new if they could afford it.Yusuke420

I have no problem with selling cars "as is." Check things out before you buy.dagreenfish