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Russia is on a downwards spiral.
So far from the truth. Russia's economy is based on natural resources and is in complete control of the gas pipelines that heat Europe during the Winter months. Russia is growing more powerful every day, but I don't expect a moron like you to make a thought based on reason and logic.
Did I really need to specify that I was referring to it's society, not it's economics? You'd have to be incredibly stupid not to understand what I meant.
You never gave any reason for your opinion so it's still a stupid comment.
So Russia is turning into another North Korea.. Or was it always like that?
lol looks like Russia is going full circle
Russia is on a downwards spiral.
So far from the truth. Russia's economy is based on natural resources and is in complete control of the gas pipelines that heat Europe during the Winter months. Russia is growing more powerful every day, but I don't expect a moron like you to make a thought based on reason and logic.
Did I really need to specify that I was referring to it's society, not it's economics? You'd have to be incredibly stupid not to understand what I meant.
You never gave any reason for your opinion so it's still a stupid comment.
No you just have the mind of a 4 year old and need everything explained to you. Why would you assume I was talking about economics? This thread has absolutely nothing to do with economics.
Its not like banning swearing in movies would undermine the quality of life for Russians or anything.
Limiting freedom of expression wouldn't undermine the quality of life? lol wut?
'Lets start banning Middle Eastern sounding words and names, I'm sure it wouldn't undermine the quality of Muslims' life!'
Russia is on a downwards spiral.
They are near the bottom already. This is behaviour one would expect of the Soviet regime.
Hmm, so America is on an upward spiral? Where they promote homosexuality on children's shows, where entire verses are bleeped out on the radio because of curses, where they teach young girls that being a slut is cool?
Russia is becoming the most true Christian nation on earth, while America and everyone else is turning their backs on Jesus.
Russia is on a downwards spiral.
They are near the bottom already. This is behaviour one would expect of the Soviet regime.
Hmm, so America is on an upward spiral? Where they promote homosexuality on children's shows, where entire verses are bleeped out on the radio because of curses, where they teach young girls that being a slut is cool?
Russia is becoming the most true Christian nation on earth, while America and everyone else is turning their backs on Jesus.
How do you promote being gay? Oh right you can't. what they teach in schools is not to bully other people because of their sexuality, race or gender.
Are you also annoyed that blacks can marry whites now?
Why is that a bad thing? You may not like it and you may feel that it goes against your own values and perception of liberty, but again the law does not target you. I personally find swearing in movies and shows humorous when done right of course, but if some people feel the opposite then so be it. If some people are feeling the need to promote traditional values then again so be it, whatever makes them sleep better at night. Its not like banning swearing in movies would undermine the quality of life for Russians or anything. I bet they have better things to worry about.
I know this may sound quite shocking to some of you, but there are cultures and peoples out there that do not share the same values of other- currently more dominant cultures. With that said, you may question the intentions and pretexts of that legislation, but that would be a different matter than questioning the legislation itself.
Because freedom is a natural human right. It doesn't matter if some cultures do not share those values because those people aren't given a choice on the matter. Humanity will never progress while some portion of us are stuck living under totalitarian control.
Its amazing how you guys believe the shit you say. Maybe its time for you to liberate Russians and bestow democracy upon them!
Why is that a bad thing? You may not like it and you may feel that it goes against your own values and perception of liberty, but again the law does not target you. I personally find swearing in movies and shows humorous when done right of course, but if some people feel the opposite then so be it. If some people are feeling the need to promote traditional values then again so be it, whatever makes them sleep better at night. Its not like banning swearing in movies would undermine the quality of life for Russians or anything. I bet they have better things to worry about.
I know this may sound quite shocking to some of you, but there are cultures and peoples out there that do not share the same values of other- currently more dominant cultures. With that said, you may question the intentions and pretexts of that legislation, but that would be a different matter than questioning the legislation itself.
Because freedom is a natural human right. It doesn't matter if some cultures do not share those values because those people aren't given a choice on the matter. Humanity will never progress while some portion of us are stuck living under totalitarian control.
Its amazing how you guys believe the shit you say. Maybe its time for you to liberate Russians and bestow democracy upon them!
It's amazing how at every turn you show your disdain for freedom of speech yet at the same time fail to understand that you actually hold that position
Not taking a side here, but you are acting like it is wrong to care for those who are oppressed by a dictator that acts as the president of Russia (yes he is a dictator). Should we have no remorse for the people of Syria or Iraq? Or the men and women that suffer in Sudan? That is what your logic is saying.
I'm not against people caring for those who are oppressed, quite the contrary in fact seeing how that could actually benefit me. Consequently no, I'm not against people having remorse for the people of Syria or Iraq. What I'm against however is disingenuous remorse and benevolence, which are only expressions of some perceived expediency or disguised self-interest, being sold as genuine and humane. The only plausible reason as for why Russia receives flak from the west for its alleged human rights violations is because the west perceives in Russia a potential threat to its hegemony and dominance so it is in the best interest of western civilization to continue patronizing Russia and attempting to discredit and undermine it. Reflect with me further: If the concerns of western civilization for Russia's alleged human rights violations were genuine and of a benevolent nature then it'd only natural for them to be in direct proportion to the volume and severity of these violations and the resulting suffering that they inflict on Russians. In that scenario, the concerns of western civilization for the people of Syria or Iraq would also need to be in direct proportion to the volume of the suffering of those peoples. If you compare the volume and severity of the suffering of Russians under the Putin regime and say the suffering of Syrians under the Assad regime, and if you take this a step further and compare the attention and action both variants of suffering receive from the average western citizen then I believe you'll begin to understand my point of view, provided that you had any intention of impartially understanding to begin with. The average western citizen knows very little about the Middle East and he has little interest in it, which is why you hear the occasional "Duh its the Middle East, why not nuke it and get it over with". Its also the reason why the west lost its mind during the Crimea fiasco but didn't really bat an eye when entire states in the Middle East have been fully invaded. Furthermore, If western civilization committed itself for the emancipation of the Palestinian people just as half as it commits itself every time Putin farts we'd be way better off than we are now, keeping in mind that western civilization IS responsible for our misery. But I guess its too busy supporting Israel and providing it with the necessary resources for it to continue consolidating its unjust and inhumane dominance over us.
Now, western civilization is free to act upon whatever pretexts and perceived expediences as it sees suitable; there's no need however for malignant claims of benevolence and human values.
Why is that a bad thing? You may not like it and you may feel that it goes against your own values and perception of liberty, but again the law does not target you. I personally find swearing in movies and shows humorous when done right of course, but if some people feel the opposite then so be it. If some people are feeling the need to promote traditional values then again so be it, whatever makes them sleep better at night. Its not like banning swearing in movies would undermine the quality of life for Russians or anything. I bet they have better things to worry about.
I know this may sound quite shocking to some of you, but there are cultures and peoples out there that do not share the same values of other- currently more dominant cultures. With that said, you may question the intentions and pretexts of that legislation, but that would be a different matter than questioning the legislation itself.
Because freedom is a natural human right. It doesn't matter if some cultures do not share those values because those people aren't given a choice on the matter. Humanity will never progress while some portion of us are stuck living under totalitarian control.
Its amazing how you guys believe the shit you say. Maybe its time for you to liberate Russians and bestow democracy upon them!
It's amazing how at every turn you show your disdain for freedom of speech yet at the same time fail to understand that you actually hold that position
Which position exactly? And if you truly believe that I only have disdain towards freedom of speech then I honestly don't know what to say to you.
Not taking a side here, but you are acting like it is wrong to care for those who are oppressed by a dictator that acts as the president of Russia (yes he is a dictator). Should we have no remorse for the people of Syria or Iraq? Or the men and women that suffer in Sudan? That is what your logic is saying.
The only plausible reason as for why Russia receives flak from the west for its alleged human rights violations is because the west perceives in Russia a potential threat to its hegemony and dominance so it is in the best interest of western civilization to continue patronizing Russia and attempting to discredit and undermine it.
Is that so.
Why is that a bad thing? You may not like it and you may feel that it goes against your own values and perception of liberty, but again the law does not target you. I personally find swearing in movies and shows humorous when done right of course, but if some people feel the opposite then so be it. If some people are feeling the need to promote traditional values then again so be it, whatever makes them sleep better at night. Its not like banning swearing in movies would undermine the quality of life for Russians or anything. I bet they have better things to worry about.
I know this may sound quite shocking to some of you, but there are cultures and peoples out there that do not share the same values of other- currently more dominant cultures. With that said, you may question the intentions and pretexts of that legislation, but that would be a different matter than questioning the legislation itself.
Where do I begin..
Furthermore you make it sound like the reaction to this law is based on some sort of cultural selfishness, as though western culture not banning swear words means we think no other culture else should. But if according to you it is not in our place to decide what is illegal in other cultures then how is it in the russian government's place to decide what is illegal for everyone else in their country? You are implying cultural homogeneity of the russian people which is basically racism.
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