Reselling concert tickets for profit: is it immoral?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Neither of those have anything to do with my point.

N30F3N1X

Of course they do. You're saying how bad authoritarianism is and why you'd like to get rid of it, and I'm saying why it is here.

You sound like you really don't have the slightest f*cking idea what you're talking about.

[...] wouldn't living by your own code be another form of morality?supa_badman

You are so ignorant of his point it isn't even funny. But I will laugh for you benefit. :lol:Zeviander

Nope, as somebody with more linguistic dexterity than me said, I'm a moral relativist. As such, I do understand that while opinions on the matter of morality may diverge, there are principles embedded in our psychology that simply cannot be forsaken. In fact I think the whole idea behind morality is based on these things. If you have any other insightful as a wall of fog remark to make, feel free to.

[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]You're a nihilist, but you believe there are ways people "ought" to act? I never made any claim about people's minds, so that's a non-sequitor. What we understand as "morality" may be inherent to some degree, but that doesn't mean those ideas should control our actions on an individual level.N30F3N1X

I said I believe in existential nihilism. Life itself means nothing to me.

What do you mean you never made any claim about people's minds?

"Immorality" is an authoritarian conceptYou

Herp derp?

Then try to live a day using lack of integrity, dishonesty and unfairness as your principles. Tell me how well that works out for you.

[QUOTE="supa_badman"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

What?

worlock77

You'll have to explain how it's a sh*tty answer first.

You sound like you really don't have the slightest f*cking idea what you're talking about.

worlock77

Oh dear. Please elaborate.

[QUOTE="supa_badman"] [...] wouldn't living by your own code be another form of morality?Zeviander

I never said people ought to act without integrity, or that they ought to be dishonest, you babbling plebe. I said people should live without limits, which is another way of saying I reject "ought" claims as not truth-apt. That's what moral nihilism is. Like I said, you need to do some reading about the philosophy, because you don't know sh*t about it. I don't care what you describe yourself as, ignorance is ignorance, and yours is obvious. I made a claim about the philosophical concept of morality, not how the mind works. How you confuse these things is baffling, but unsurprising from what I've seen of you.Rhazakna

Have you actually ever read anything about philosophy *at all*? I mean real philosophy, like Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Rousseau, Kant, or the likes? Because if you don't understand the link between the mind and anything that has to do with philosophy you really have no basis to say anything regarding it :lol:

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="supa_badman"] I just feel like your answer is a sh!tty answer, I want you to expand. What would be better?supa_badman

You'll have to explain how it's a sh*tty answer first.

His point seemed to be that without morality people will steal and murder at will. My point was that people do such things in spite of morality, and indeed often use their professed morals to justify such actions.

Nope, as somebody with more linguistic dexterity than me said, I'm a moral relativist. As such, I do understand that while opinions on the matter of morality may diverge, there are principles embedded in our psychology that simply cannot be forsaken. In fact I think the whole idea behind morality is based on these things. If you have any other insightful as a wall of fog remark to make, feel free toN30F3N1X

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

You sound like you really don't have the slightest f*cking idea what you're talking about.

N30F3N1X

Oh dear. Please elaborate.

If you think authoritarianism is simply protecting individual rights then there's no point.

[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]I never said people ought to act without integrity, or that they ought to be dishonest, you babbling plebe. I said people should live without limits, which is another way of saying I reject "ought" claims as not truth-apt. That's what moral nihilism is. Like I said, you need to do some reading about the philosophy, because you don't know sh*t about it. I don't care what you describe yourself as, ignorance is ignorance, and yours is obvious. I made a claim about the philosophical concept of morality, not how the mind works. How you confuse these things is baffling, but unsurprising from what I've seen of you.N30F3N1X

Have you actually ever read anything about philosophy *at all*? I mean real philosophy, like Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Rousseau, Kant, or the likes? Because if you don't understand the link between the mind and anything that has to do with philosophy you really have no basis to say anything regarding it :lol:

Enter mental illness and the delusion that eating a person's heart is "good", while leaving it in their chest is "evil". Morality is nothing but a concept cooked up by the human mind to justify one's actions. There is no "embedded" things in our psychology or biology. They are merely there because people keep repeating them to one another for generation after generation. It does not "exist" as anything more than a figment of our imaginations. Our nature is self-preservation, and we *will* act on it when our mental faculties can no longer aid our survival.Zeviander

Not sure what you're referring to with the heart thing. And how are you judging that it's "mental illness and delusion" if you have no base to define good and evil with?

Not sure what you're saying with that either. Picture a world where we start at prehistory and press fast forward. Where would we be today?

If you think authoritarianism is simply protecting individual rights then there's no point.

worlock77

So you're deciding that based on your own assumptions?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="supa_badman"] I just feel like your answer is a sh!tty answer, I want you to expand. What would be better?supa_badman

You'll have to explain how it's a sh*tty answer first.

EDIT: Sorry Worlock, that quote was supposed to be quoting yours, but you'd understand

I see no problem you bought the ticket its your property I say sell it, heck half the time I see people actuall selling tickets is when they cannot go to the show yet dont want to waste that money.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

If you think authoritarianism is simply protecting individual rights then there's no point.

N30F3N1X

So you're deciding that based on your own assumptions?

You seem to have absolutely no idea what authoritarianism is. Until you learn this is an utterly fruitless conversation.

Not sure what you're referring to with the heart thing. And how are you judging that it's "mental illness and delusion" if you have no base to define good and evil with? Not sure what you're saying with that either. Picture a world where we start at prehistory and press fast forward. Where would we be today?N30F3N1X

In my opinion yes but extremely beneficial to both parties: One person makes a profit and the other person doesn't have to wait in line.

The whole thing has been done before not just with tickets but also phones and gaming systems so I don't see the big deal in all of it.

leviathan91

Tickets for pretty much any major event are sold online, so there's no more lines to stand in before the box office opens.

Of course not. It's capitalism.

It's actually illegal to buy a "second-hand" ticket in massachusetts. But nobody enforces it. Example, people who just re-sell their tickets on stubhub ect.