Rep. Jon Hubbard: Slavery "A Blessing In Disguise"

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#1 Posted by Aljosa23 (24996 posts) -

Some of Arkansas Republican legislators are radical extremists whose views are far outside the mainstream of Arkansas.

Ive written previously about State Rep. Loy Mauchs radical beliefs, now its time to examine the extremism of another Republican state legislator Jon Hubbard.

Republican State Rep. Jon Hubbard published a book entitled, Letters to the Editor: Confessions of a Frustrated Conservative, and using highly sophisticated oppo research skills that Republicans complain about, I read some of what he wrote. What Jon Hubbard writes and believes will blow your hair back.

From reading Hubbards writings, it is clear he believes that African-Americans are lazy, ignorant, lack discipline and that they should be thankful they were once enslaved. My previous sentence is inflammatory, but that is what Hubbard has basically written in his book. And by the end of this post youll believe I even held back a little.

Lets start looking at the extreme words Hubbard put to paper.

First, Hubbard believes that slavery was, in the end, a good thing for African-Americans:

the institution of slavery that the black race has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may actually have been a blessing in disguise. The blacks who could endure those conditions and circumstances would someday be rewarded with citizenship in the greatest nation ever established upon the face of the Earth. (Pages 183-89)

Here is what Hubbard is really saying: Hey black folks, yeah, I know, we kept you in chains for hundreds of years, beat you, raped your women, lynched innocent teenagers, destroyed your families, but isnt that really a good thing?

Hubbard believes integrating schools is harmful to white students because, in his opinion, blacks are lazy, have no discipline and are causing a decline in education:

one of the stated purposes of school integration was to bring black students up to a level close to that of white students. But, to the great disappointment of everyone, the results of this theory worked exactly in reverse of its intended purpose, and instead of black students rising to the educational levels previously attained by white students, the white students dropped to the level of black students. To make matters worse the lack of discipline and ambition of black students soon became shared by their white classmates, and our educational system has been in a steady decline ever since. (Page 27)

Hubbard believes blacks are too ignorant to know the value of a good education:

Wouldnt life for blacks in America today be more enjoyable and successful if they would only learn to appreciate the value of a good education? (Page 184)

Hubbard believes black folks were lucky they were once enslaved because living in Africa is bad:

African Americans must understand that even while in the throes of slavery, their lives as Americans are likely much better than they ever would have enjoyed living in sub-Saharan Africa.

Knowing what we know today about life on the African continent, would an existence spent in slavery have been any crueler than a life spent in sub-Saharan Africa? (Pages 93 and 189)

Here is where Hubbard basically says black folks are lazy and dont do anything worthwhile:

will it ever become possible for black people in the United States of America to firmly establish themselves as inclusive and contributing members of society within this country? (Page 187)

It blows my mind that this man is an elected state representative. Are the above views shared by others in the Republican legislative caucus? Have any Republican legislators ever denounced Hubbard from writing straight-out racist statements? Is this representative of the Republican Party of Arkansas reflective of the partys attitude toward African-American Arkansans? Will they condemn this intolerance and ignorant attitude? Silence will speak volumes.

I doubt folks in Craighead County had any idea about Hubbards core beliefs in 2010 when they first elected him. Harold Copenhaver is running against this condescending, clueless and yes, Ill say it, racist incumbent and hopefully the Democratic challenger is getting the word out about the extremist Jon Hubbard.

http://talkbusiness.net/2012/10/rep-jon-hubbard-slavery-a-blessing-in-disguise/

lol holy crap. What is with these legislators and stupid comments lately?

#2 Posted by Pirate700 (46465 posts) -

He's not exactly wrong in the first part you bolded. He never said slavery was a good thing.

#3 Posted by Aljosa23 (24996 posts) -

He's not exactly wrong in the first part you bolded. He never said slavery was a good thing.

Pirate700

In what universe is a blessing not considered a good thing? Come on, man.

#4 Posted by JML897 (33125 posts) -
I think what he said about "white students dropping down the the black students' level" was even worse than the slavery thing. Thankfully he's just a state representative and not a national one.
#5 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
And this man has the power to make laws.
#6 Posted by l4dak47 (6838 posts) -
Filled with ignorance and stupidity. In other words,same ol same ol for these republicans.
#7 Posted by Pirate700 (46465 posts) -

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

He's not exactly wrong in the first part you bolded. He never said slavery was a good thing.

Aljosa23

In what universe is a blessing not considered a good thing? Come on, man.

A blessing can come as the result of something bad. He worded it poorly though.

#8 Posted by dave123321 (34077 posts) -

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

He's not exactly wrong in the first part you bolded. He never said slavery was a good thing.

Pirate700

In what universe is a blessing not considered a good thing? Come on, man.

A blessing can come as the result of something bad.

A blessing in disguise
#10 Posted by l4dak47 (6838 posts) -

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

He's not exactly wrong in the first part you bolded. He never said slavery was a good thing.

Pirate700

In what universe is a blessing not considered a good thing? Come on, man.

A blessing can come as the result of something bad. He worded it poorly though.

He's still wrong.
#11 Posted by LJS9502_basic (151104 posts) -
Perhaps it will cause his loss of political position. That would be blessing in disguise....no?
#12 Posted by dave123321 (34077 posts) -
Perhaps it will cause his loss of political position. That would be blessing in disguise....no?LJS9502_basic
Most definitely
#13 Posted by Blood-Scribe (6465 posts) -

The blacks who could endure those conditions and circumstances would someday be rewarded with citizenship in the greatest nation ever established upon the face of the Earth.

instead of black students rising to the educational levels previously attained by white students, the white students dropped to the level of black students.

African Americans must understand that even while in the throes of slavery, their lives as Americans are likely much better than they ever would have enjoyed living in sub-Saharan Africa.

This is actually kinda funny once you get past how incredibly stupid and distasteful it is.

It almost sounds like something from the Onion.

#14 Posted by dave123321 (34077 posts) -

[QUOTE=""]

The blacks who could endure those conditions and circumstances would someday be rewarded with citizenship in the greatest nation ever established upon the face of the Earth.
Blood-Scribe

instead of black students rising to the educational levels previously attained by white students, the white students dropped to the level of black students.

African Americans must understand that even while in the throes of slavery, their lives as Americans are likely much better than they ever would have enjoyed living in sub-Saharan Africa.

This is actually kinda funny once you get past how incredibly stupid and distasteful it is.

Reminds me of a user named slapshot from several years ago
#15 Posted by chessmaster1989 (29308 posts) -
Perhaps it will cause his loss of political position. That would be blessing in disguise....no?LJS9502_basic
#16 Posted by Aljosa23 (24996 posts) -

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

He's not exactly wrong in the first part you bolded. He never said slavery was a good thing.

Pirate700

In what universe is a blessing not considered a good thing? Come on, man.

A blessing can come as the result of something bad. He worded it poorly though.

I doubt it. You wouldn't go around saying "the Holocaust was good because Israel was born out of it".

#17 Posted by Jolt_counter119 (4060 posts) -

That was shockingly offensive.

#18 Posted by Pirate700 (46465 posts) -

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]In what universe is a blessing not considered a good thing? Come on, man.

Aljosa23

A blessing can come as the result of something bad. He worded it poorly though.

I doubt it. You wouldn't go around saying "the Holocaust was good because Israel was born out of it".

You are missing my point. It's not saying slavery was good by saying there are positives that may have spawned from it.

#19 Posted by Aljosa23 (24996 posts) -

You are missing my point. It's not saying slavery was good by saying there are positives that spawned from it.

Pirate700

Okay and? He doesn't even have any definitive proof to back up his silly claim.

#20 Posted by Pirate700 (46465 posts) -

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

You are missing my point. It's not saying slavery was good by saying there are positives that spawned from it.

Aljosa23

Okay and? He doesn't even have any definitive proof to back up his silly claim.

He needs proof that released slaves got citizenship and a life in this country?

#21 Posted by l4dak47 (6838 posts) -

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

You are missing my point. It's not saying slavery was good by saying there are positives that spawned from it.

Pirate700

Okay and? He doesn't even have any definitive proof to back up his silly claim.

He needs proof that released slaves got citizenship and a life in this country?

He needs proof that this nation is "one of the greatest known"
#22 Posted by Aljosa23 (24996 posts) -

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

You are missing my point. It's not saying slavery was good by saying there are positives that spawned from it.

Pirate700

Okay and? He doesn't even have any definitive proof to back up his silly claim.

He needs proof that released slaves got citizenship and a life in this country?

No, he needs proof that they wouldn't have gotten citizenship without slavery. And that "best country" bit was pretty funny.

#23 Posted by Pirate700 (46465 posts) -

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Okay and? He doesn't even have any definitive proof to back up his silly claim.

Aljosa23

He needs proof that released slaves got citizenship and a life in this country?

No, he needs proof that they wouldn't have gotten citizenship without slavery. And that "best country" bit was pretty funny.

How exactly would people from tribes in Africa get citizenship in the US (or the west period) in that age otherwise?

#24 Posted by Optical_Order (5100 posts) -

The blacks who could endure those conditions and circumstances would someday be rewarded with citizenship in the greatest nation ever established upon the face of the Earth. (Pages 183-89)

Aljosa23

Hey, just be a slave for a little while and then we'll let you join our club. It's not that big a deal.

#25 Posted by Aljosa23 (24996 posts) -

How exactly would people from tribes in Africa get citizenship in the US (or the west period) in that age otherwise?Pirate700

Same way that everyone else did.

#26 Posted by Pirate700 (46465 posts) -

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

How exactly would people from tribes in Africa get citizenship in the US (or the west period) in that age otherwise?Aljosa23

Same way that everyone else did.

I can't tell if you're being serious. We aren't talking about 2012 here.

#27 Posted by needled24-7 (15900 posts) -

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]He needs proof that released slaves got citizenship and a life in this country?

Pirate700

No, he needs proof that they wouldn't have gotten citizenship without slavery. And that "best country" bit was pretty funny.

How exactly would people from tribes in Africa get citizenship in the US (or the west period) in that age otherwise?

why should they want citizenship in this country? even after slavery, blacks were treated like sh*t. they probably would have preferred to stay in africa

#28 Posted by Pirate700 (46465 posts) -

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]No, he needs proof that they wouldn't have gotten citizenship without slavery. And that "best country" bit was pretty funny.

needled24-7

How exactly would people from tribes in Africa get citizenship in the US (or the west period) in that age otherwise?

why should they want citizenship in this country? even after slavery, blacks were treated like sh*t. they probably would have preferred to stay in africa

Fair enough.

#29 Posted by Aljosa23 (24996 posts) -

I can't tell if you're being serious. We aren't talking about 2012 here.

Pirate700

Half serious. Even if we pretend the first bolded was okay to say the rest of the stuff he says is pretty dumb too.

#30 Posted by Jolt_counter119 (4060 posts) -

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

How exactly would people from tribes in Africa get citizenship in the US (or the west period) in that age otherwise?Pirate700

Same way that everyone else did.

I can't tell if you're being serious. We aren't talking about 2012 here.

A lot of black people came to America through ellis island, though mostly carribean. Slavery was not needed for citizenship, and even if some people would not be here without slavery it's pretty damn arragant and ignorant to tell black people they should see slavery as a positive in any sort of way.

edit: well not a lot, but still.

#31 Posted by Pirate700 (46465 posts) -

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I can't tell if you're being serious. We aren't talking about 2012 here.

Aljosa23

Half serious. Even if we pretend the first bolded was okay to say the rest of the stuff he says is pretty dumb too.

Of course the rest was. All I was saying is the first part had some poorly worded truth...that of course is assuming he meant there is good that came from it and not that slavery was good because of it.

#32 Posted by BossPerson (9472 posts) -
Relax, there are democratic politicians who are just as crazy and racist...right??
#33 Posted by Pirate700 (46465 posts) -

Relax, there are democratic politicians who are just as crazy and racist...right??BossPerson
I believe there's one that's an ex klan member.

#34 Posted by -Sun_Tzu- (17384 posts) -

He's not exactly wrong in the first part you bolded. He never said slavery was a good thing.

Pirate700
Stop defending stupid people
#35 Posted by sammyjenkis898 (28097 posts) -
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

He's not exactly wrong in the first part you bolded. He never said slavery was a good thing.

-Sun_Tzu-
Stop defending stupid people

#36 Posted by the_bi99man (11047 posts) -

Relax, there are democratic politicians who are just as crazy and racist...right??BossPerson

Extremely true. Extremism, racism, insanity and stupidity don't have any party allegiance.