Here's a good one: President Obama signed the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act, which allows the military to indefinitely detain you without probable cause. This act is not only tyrannical, but clearly unconstitutional.
Here's what the ACLU has to say about it: http://www.aclu.org/national-security/president-obama-signs-indefinite-detention-bill-law
Blue-Sky
But the NDAA has strong republican support. Wouldn't Romney have signed it as well?
This topic is illogical because you can condemn one person for one thing but that doesn't translate to what the other person would have done in the same shoes. The only proper comparison you can make on Romney and Obama at this point are their ethics, their ideologies and religious devotion.
Yeah, I never said that the Republicans and Romney didn't support it too. Both parties are equally tyrannical.
You could argue overall that Romney leans a bit more toward personal and economic freedom than Obama, but really, most of the arguments for why Romney is good are really based on how Obama is bad, so you may be better off attacking Obama and resting on the lesser of two evils approach.
Here's a good one: President Obama signed the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act, which allows the military to indefinitely detain you without probable cause. This act is not only tyrannical, but clearly unconstitutional.
Here's what the ACLU has to say about it: http://www.aclu.org/national-security/president-obama-signs-indefinite-detention-bill-law
JLCrogue
But the NDAA has strong republican support. Wouldn't Romney have signed it as well?
This topic is illogical because you can condemn one person for one thing but that doesn't translate to what the other person would have done in the same shoes. The only proper comparison you can make on Romney and Obama at this point are their ethics, their ideologies and religious devotion.
Yeah, I never said that the Republicans and Romney didn't support it too. Both parties are equally tyrannical.
does it matter the patriot act pretty much already allowed that. The police, military and everyone else could search, hall you off you off to prison and anything else in the name of terrorism. p.s anything could be terrorism lol
Obama is downsizing the U.S. Military with massive cuts agreed to by Republicans and Democrats, and he is disarming America of nuclear weapons. He also doesn't view Israel as an ally, just going by his actions, and it's clear that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Obama are not friends (while Romney and Netanyahu have been great friends for years.)cslayer211
[QUOTE="cslayer211"]Obama is downsizing the U.S. Military with massive cuts agreed to by Republicans and Democrats, and he is disarming America of nuclear weapons. He also doesn't view Israel as an ally, just going by his actions, and it's clear that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Obama are not friends (while Romney and Netanyahu have been great friends for years.)sSubZerOo
That is a good thing..
The cuts aren't "massive" though. Not remotely. Don't worry, warmongers. The US will still spend more on the military than every other country combined.
[QUOTE="cslayer211"]Obama is downsizing the U.S. Military with massive cuts agreed to by Republicans and Democrats, and he is disarming America of nuclear weapons. He also doesn't view Israel as an ally, just going by his actions, and it's clear that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Obama are not friends (while Romney and Netanyahu have been great friends for years.)Rhazakna
That is a good thing..
The cuts aren't "massive" though. Not remotely. Don't worry, warmongers. The US will still spend more on the military than every other country combined. They aren't good for Obama politically. Thousands of people will lose their jobs if the military cuts go into effect. Though I'm not sure how wanting a strong military makes you a warmonger...
The cuts aren't "massive" though. Not remotely. Don't worry, warmongers. The US will still spend more on the military than every other country combined. They aren't good for Obama politically. Thousands of people will lose their jobs if the military cuts go into effect. Though I'm not sure how wanting a strong military makes you a warmonger...Its not the governments job to employ people....and like someone else said we spend more on our military than all other countries combined.
The cuts aren't "massive" though. Not remotely. Don't worry, warmongers. The US will still spend more on the military than every other country combined. They aren't good for Obama politically. Thousands of people will lose their jobs if the military cuts go into effect. Though I'm not sure how wanting a strong military makes you a warmonger...
If the United States cut their military budget in half, it will still have a strong military.. The US military spending is greater than the next 25 top militaries combined....
[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"] The cuts aren't "massive" though. Not remotely. Don't worry, warmongers. The US will still spend more on the military than every other country combined. They aren't good for Obama politically. Thousands of people will lose their jobs if the military cuts go into effect. Though I'm not sure how wanting a strong military makes you a warmonger...Its not the governments job to employ people....and like someone else said we spend more on our military than all other countries combined. Those other countries aren't fighting a war. We might as well pull out of Afghanistan though, and other places that have military waste. There are places to cut the military, but not in places that actually reduce what the U.S. is capable of. Although I don't know why some people have such a big problem with having a strong military. Does it make people angry that no one can wage a one-on-one war with America?
[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="cslayer211"] They aren't good for Obama politically. Thousands of people will lose their jobs if the military cuts go into effect. Though I'm not sure how wanting a strong military makes you a warmonger...Its not the governments job to employ people....and like someone else said we spend more on our military than all other countries combined. Those other countries aren't fighting a war. We might as well pull out of Afghanistan though, and other places that have military waste. There are places to cut the military, but not in places that actually reduce what the U.S. is capable of. Although I don't know why some people have such a big problem with having a strong military. Does it make people angry that no one can wage a one-on-one war with America? :lol: You got to be sh*tting me. Dat military industrial complex.
The cuts aren't "massive" though. Not remotely. Don't worry, warmongers. The US will still spend more on the military than every other country combined. They aren't good for Obama politically. Thousands of people will lose their jobs if the military cuts go into effect. Though I'm not sure how wanting a strong military makes you a warmonger... People who support the massively bloated military budget are usually also in favor of interventionist wars in other countries. If you're opposed to those wars, but support the budget as it is, you're just an idiot. Why have such insanely high spending on "defense" if you don't want war?
[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="cslayer211"] They aren't good for Obama politically. Thousands of people will lose their jobs if the military cuts go into effect. Though I'm not sure how wanting a strong military makes you a warmonger...Its not the governments job to employ people....and like someone else said we spend more on our military than all other countries combined. Those other countries aren't fighting a war. We might as well pull out of Afghanistan though, and other places that have military waste. There are places to cut the military, but not in places that actually reduce what the U.S. is capable of. Although I don't know why some people have such a big problem with having a strong military. Does it make people angry that no one can wage a one-on-one war with America? Yeah, why do people have a problem with spending trillions on the military industrial complex? Killing people who pose no threat to the US in any way for the enrichment of certain elite firms is nothing to complain about. Whiners, the lot of them.
I can assure you. Romney or Obama you will get mostly the same. What was different about Bush vs Obama? The only thing that was remotely different was Obama Care.
The cuts aren't "massive" though. Not remotely. Don't worry, warmongers. The US will still spend more on the military than every other country combined. They aren't good for Obama politically. Thousands of people will lose their jobs if the military cuts go into effect. Though I'm not sure how wanting a strong military makes you a warmonger... The spending cuts are not intended to go into place in the first place.
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