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#1 SteverXIII
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Alright, right off the bat I'm not saying I believe this or not, but I have a debate soon and this is the motion. My team has been put to oppose this, so we are on the side of Romney. Now, I'm not a Romney supporter, but could someone who does want to see him in power please give me some points, because I'm stumped. Is something I can put him above Obama on, in relation to this?

Thanks

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Oh this thread has the potential to be hilarious.

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#3 JML897
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Well you could argue that the Obama-approved drone strikes kill innocent people. (I personally think Romney would be just as bad in that area but since he hasn't been President yet that can't be proven. )
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You could argue that Obama's refusal to face Iran directly could lead to a pre-emptive strike of theirs on neighboring countries (such as Iraq and Israel) which could claim millions of lives.. Though I personally think that's a absolute bullsh!t point that it would not happen.. But hey you asked for something..
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#5 SteverXIII
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Well you could argue that the Obama-approved drone strikes kill innocent people. (I personally think Romney would be just as bad in that area but since he hasn't been President yet that can't be proven. )JML897
You could argue that Obama's refusal to face Iran directly could lead to a pre-emptive strike of theirs on neighboring countries (such as Iraq and Israel) which could claim millions of lives.. Though I personally think that's a absolute bullsh!t point that it would not happen.. But hey you asked for something.. sSubZerOo
These could work, thanks
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Alright, right off the bat I'm not saying I believe this or not, but I have a debate soon and this is the motion. My team has been put to oppose this, so we are on the side of Romney. Now, I'm not a Romney supporter, but could someone who does want to see him in power please give me some points, because I'm stumped. Is something I can put him above Obama on, in relation to this?

Thanks

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#7 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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yes he does
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#8 LordQuorthon
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Mormon with nukes...

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Mormon with nukes...

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aren't mormons christians?
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#10 LordQuorthon
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[QUOTE="LordQuorthon"]

Mormon with nukes...

Jandurin

aren't mormons christians?

Kind of. I can say "Christian with nukes." Would that make you happy? The difference between Mormons and most assorted Christians is that Mormons take their crap, like, really, really, really seriously, which, by definition, is dangerous.

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oh definitely don't want a fanatic in office
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#12 SteverXIII
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[QUOTE="SteverXIII"]

Alright, right off the bat I'm not saying I believe this or not, but I have a debate soon and this is the motion. My team has been put to oppose this, so we are on the side of Romney. Now, I'm not a Romney supporter, but could someone who does want to see him in power please give me some points, because I'm stumped. Is something I can put him above Obama on, in relation to this?

Thanks

ClassicRockFTW

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Yeah. How'd you know?
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#13 ClassicRockFTW
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[QUOTE="ClassicRockFTW"]

[QUOTE="SteverXIII"]

Alright, right off the bat I'm not saying I believe this or not, but I have a debate soon and this is the motion. My team has been put to oppose this, so we are on the side of Romney. Now, I'm not a Romney supporter, but could someone who does want to see him in power please give me some points, because I'm stumped. Is something I can put him above Obama on, in relation to this?

Thanks

SteverXIII

holy crap do you live in ireland?

Yeah. How'd you know?

What school do you go to?

We're doing the exact same motion thats why.

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#14 SteverXIII
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[QUOTE="SteverXIII"][QUOTE="ClassicRockFTW"]

holy crap do you live in ireland?

ClassicRockFTW

Yeah. How'd you know?

What school do you go to?

We're doing the exact same motion thats why.

One in mayo. I think it might be a general motion, in the sense that everyone gets the same topic across the country but each school gets oppose/for
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#15 Abbeten
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Obama's refusal to take a hard stance with Iran has disrupted the balance of power in the region and seen Iran well on the road to nuclear power, which could be used preemptively against Israel. His disregard for national sovereignty with drone strikes in Pakistan have done more harm than good since one in four of the people killed are civilians, and the attacks make people more likely to join a terrorist organization.
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#16 comp_atkins
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romney's killed less americans than obama. so there's that.
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[QUOTE="LordQuorthon"]

Mormon with nukes...

Jandurin
aren't mormons christians?

They are as Christian as Muslims are.
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#18 ClassicRockFTW
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[QUOTE="ClassicRockFTW"]

[QUOTE="SteverXIII"] Yeah. How'd you know? SteverXIII

What school do you go to?

We're doing the exact same motion thats why.

One in mayo. I think it might be a general motion, in the sense that everyone gets the same topic across the country but each school gets oppose/for

>mayo
>Implying you're not a culchie


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The political platform is a joke, it's just a tool used to keep the masses diverted from the real people pulling the strings behind Obama and Romney!!! It's time to play catch up people......"HEY CANADA" you guys got room for one more!!!! lol:P

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#20 SteverXIII
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Implying you're not a culchieClassicRockFTW
!!!!! What about you, what county?
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#21 Blue-Sky
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Greater threat...?

Neither of them are threats, whats with the hyperbolic terms?

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="LordQuorthon"]

Mormon with nukes...

hiphops_savior

aren't mormons christians?

They are as Christian as Muslims are.

Even though "MOST" Christians, Muslims and even Zionist don't get along today they all share father Abrahams promise. Most of the people(a very small minority)who know this don't get caught up in all of the conflict.

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[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] aren't mormons christians?MarcRecon

They are as Christian as Muslims are.

Even though "MOST" Christians, Muslims and even Zionist don't get along today they all share father Abrahams promise. Most of the people(a very small minority)who know this don't get caught up in all of the conflict.

what about non-religious people
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[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"] They are as Christian as Muslims are.Jandurin

Even though "MOST" Christians, Muslims and even Zionist don't get along today they all share father Abrahams promise. Most of the people(a very small minority)who know this don't get caught up in all of the conflict.

what about non-religious people

they're going to burn for all eternity. easy.
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they're going to burn for all eternity. easy.Allicrombie
AT LEAST I WON'T BE COLD edit: that emote is trash
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#26 MarcRecon
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[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"] They are as Christian as Muslims are.Jandurin

Even though "MOST" Christians, Muslims and even Zionist don't get along today they all share father Abrahams promise. Most of the people(a very small minority)who know this don't get caught up in all of the conflict.

what about non-religious people

I'm not sure what you are asking....?

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#27 MarcRecon
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

Even though "MOST" Christians, Muslims and even Zionist don't get along today they all share father Abrahams promise. Most of the people(a very small minority)who know this don't get caught up in all of the conflict.

Allicrombie

what about non-religious people

they're going to burn for all eternity. easy.

:P....that wasn't nice

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

Even though "MOST" Christians, Muslims and even Zionist don't get along today they all share father Abrahams promise. Most of the people(a very small minority)who know this don't get caught up in all of the conflict.

MarcRecon

what about non-religious people

I'm not sure what you are asking....?

idk anything about abraham or whatever promise he made does that mean i should or shouldn't conflict
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#29 JML897
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Neither of them are threats, whats with the hyperbolic terms?

Blue-Sky

Well it depends how you look at it. I'm sure people in Pakistan see them as threats.

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#30 MarcRecon
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[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] what about non-religious peopleJandurin

I'm not sure what you are asking....?

idk anything about abraham or whatever promise he made does that mean i should or shouldn't conflict

Stop being lazy....the informatiom is easy to look up!! I'll give you the "VERY" short version....Abraham is the father of the Zionist and Muslim nations and God made a promise to him about his future children.

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does this mean i'm religious now :o
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#32 Slow_Show
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I guess you could try the "Romney will be a better steward of the economy because of his more free-market approach and experience at Bain Capital" argument, based on the idea a strong American economy will alleviate some of the economic issues in Europe (and even China, to an extent). It has the slight downside of being demonstrably not true (on account of how much bananash*t insane policy has made its way into his platform to appease the far-right), but if you do your research and word your argument just right you can probably pull it off.

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[QUOTE="ClassicRockFTW"]Implying you're not a culchieSteverXIII
!!!!! What about you, what county?

Dublin ofcourse.

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Here's a good one: President Obama signed the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act, which allows the military to indefinitely detain you without probable cause. This act is not only tyrannical, but clearly unconstitutional.

Here's what the ACLU has to say about it: http://www.aclu.org/national-security/president-obama-signs-indefinite-detention-bill-law

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Here's a good one: President Obama signed the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act, which allows the military to indefinitely detain you without probable cause. This act is not only tyrannical, but clearly unconstitutional.

Here's what the ACLU has to say about it: http://www.aclu.org/national-security/president-obama-signs-indefinite-detention-bill-law

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Here's a good one: President Obama signed the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act, which allows the military to indefinitely detain you without probable cause. This act is not only tyrannical, but clearly unconstitutional.

Here's what the ACLU has to say about it: http://www.aclu.org/national-security/president-obama-signs-indefinite-detention-bill-law

JLCrogue

But the NDAA has strong republican support. Wouldn't Romney have signed it as well?

This topic is illogical because you can condemn one person for one thing but that doesn't translate to what the other person would have done in the same shoes. The only proper comparison you can make on Romney and Obama at this point are their ethics, their ideologies and religious devotion.

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obama committed treason with fast and furious
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#38 cslayer211
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Obama is downsizing the U.S. Military with massive cuts agreed to by Republicans and Democrats, and he is disarming America of nuclear weapons. He also doesn't view Israel as an ally, just going by his actions, and it's clear that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Obama are not friends (while Romney and Netanyahu have been great friends for years.)
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Thanks a lot for these guys, they will come in handy,
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Thanks a lot for these guys, they will come in handy,SteverXIII

handy when? when youre ploughing potatoes?

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[QUOTE="SteverXIII"]Thanks a lot for these guys, they will come in handy,ClassicRockFTW

handy when? when youre ploughing potatoes?

no no no he's gonna get out of his podunk town
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jand why you quit
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jand why you quitDylan_11
what do you think you're doing
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I SAID JAND WHY YOU QUIT answer dylan
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[QUOTE="SteverXIII"]Thanks a lot for these guys, they will come in handy,ClassicRockFTW

handy when? when youre ploughing potatoes?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwLvNWwwyVM&t=28s
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why is the title in quotes? your the one saying it. I agree i take obama over romney but really i take someone else over romney or obama
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[QUOTE="Dylan_11"]I SAID JAND WHY YOU QUIT answer dylan

fine D3NNY stole my powers illegitimately when I got them back legitimately
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oh he nooblet'd you sad come home
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[QUOTE="Dylan_11"]oh he nooblet'd you sad come home

never
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MALCOLM BURGER KING JONES YOU COME HOME THIS INSTANT