Putin to gays: they must "leave the children in peace."

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#1 Edited by Master_Live (14162 posts) -

Putin stresses 'gay propaganda' law

From the article:

Russian President Vladimir Putin sought Friday to reassure gay visitors to the Sochi Olympics that they are welcome in Russia but said they must "leave the children in peace."

Responding to a question from an Olympics volunteer during a visit in the Black Sea resort city, Putin vowed that gays face no discrimination in Russia and could feel "at ease."

But he emphasized that because of a Russian law banning gay "propaganda" among minors, they cannot express their views on gay rights issues to anyone under age.

Putin appeared to lump homosexuality and pedophilia together.

"We have no ban on nontraditional sexual relations. We have a ban on propaganda of homosexuality and pedophilia, I want to underline that, on propaganda among minors," he said.

Putin insisted the measure isn't discriminatory.

"We aren't banning anything, we aren't rounding up anyone, we have no criminal punishment for such relations, unlike many other countries," he said. "One can feel relaxed and at ease, but please leave the children in peace."

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What a jerk, even is he is right about homosexuals passing their gay genes to the kids.

#2 Edited by JML897 (33120 posts) -

Should've never given Russia the olympics

#3 Edited by Fightingfan (38011 posts) -

I don't see a problem if I fully understand the law.

No grown adults should be talking about their personal sex life with children.

#4 Posted by toast_burner (21416 posts) -

I wonder how much of it he believes. It's obviously just a scapegoat for his falling support.

#5 Posted by Master_Live (14162 posts) -

@JML897 said:

Should've never given Russia the olympics

Well, they gave the summer Olympics to China so it was all down hill from there.

#6 Edited by toast_burner (21416 posts) -

@Fightingfan said:

I don't see a problem if I fully understand the law.

No grown adults should be talking about their personal sex life with children.

Except it specifically targets homosexuals. Are you really this stupid?

Also why would not talking to children about sex be a good thing?

#7 Edited by Fightingfan (38011 posts) -

@toast_burner said:

@Fightingfan said:

I don't see a problem if I fully understand the law.

No grown adults should be talking about their personal sex life with children.

Except it specifically target homosexuals. Are you really this stupid?

Also why would not talking to children about sex be a good thing?

Targeting homosexuals isn't my problem. If gays dislike the wording they should bring it up to the courts.

I don't think it's appropriate for a grown man/woman to walk up to a child, and be extremely explicit.

You're the one that's stupid if you thought I meant basic sex ed. I can't get into details on what I meant as I don't know the new TOU.

#8 Posted by toast_burner (21416 posts) -

@toast_burner said:

@Fightingfan said:

I don't see a problem if I fully understand the law.

No grown adults should be talking about their personal sex life with children.

Except it specifically target homosexuals. Are you really this stupid?

Also why would not talking to children about sex be a good thing?

Targeting homosexuals isn't my problem. If gays dislike the wording they should bring it up to the courts.

I don't think it's appropriate for a grown man/woman to walk up to a child, and be extremely explicit.

You're the one that's stupid if you thought I meant basic sex ed.

This law does forbid basic sex ed regarding homosexual relations.

Im 99% certain you're a troll so I'll be leaving it as that.

#9 Posted by whipassmt (13987 posts) -

@JML897 said:

Should've never given Russia the olympics

why not? The Olympics have been held in worse places, like Nazi Germany (though the decision to have the Olympics in Germany back then may have been made before the Nazis came to power, and the world didn't realize how bad the Nazis were back then) and in the Soviet Union (1980).

Wikipedia has a list of the Olympics' host cities:

#10 Edited by whipassmt (13987 posts) -

I don't know the specifics about the Russian law. And yeah the gay tourists/athletes should leave the children alone.

#11 Edited by vl4d_l3nin (849 posts) -

Article 29, Section 2 of the Russian Federation Constitution;

2. The propaganda or agitation instigating social, racial, national or religious hatred and strife shall not be allowed. The propaganda of social, racial, national, religious or linguistic supremacy shall be banned.

What Putin is saying runs parallel and also contradicts this.

More shocking to me is that the winter games is taking place in the warmest place in Russia. Sochi has a subtropical climate ffs!

#12 Posted by deeliman (2386 posts) -

I don't know the specifics about the Russian law. And yeah the gay tourists/athletes should leave the children alone.

Why the gay ones in particular?

#13 Posted by whipassmt (13987 posts) -

@deeliman: I don't know, it's Putin who said that. You'll have to ask him.

#14 Posted by Makhaidos (1613 posts) -

Aww, like any of these assholes can stop me from talking to my kids (or anyone else's, for that matter) about homosexuality.

#15 Edited by whipassmt (13987 posts) -

Article 29, Section 2 of the Russian Federation Constitution;

2. The propaganda or agitation instigating social, racial, national or religious hatred and strife shall not be allowed. The propaganda of social, racial, national, religious or linguistic supremacy shall be banned.

What Putin is saying runs parallel and also contradicts this.

More shocking to me is that the winter games is taking place in the warmest place in Russia. Sochi has a subtropical climate ffs!

Seems like a vague constitutional clause? Does it apply only to governmental entities or also to private individuals?

#16 Posted by deeliman (2386 posts) -

@deeliman: I don't know, it's Putin who said that. You'll have to ask him.

You are the one that said they should. " And yeah the gay tourists/athletes should leave the children alone."

#17 Posted by whipassmt (13987 posts) -

@deeliman said:

@whipassmt said:

@deeliman: I don't know, it's Putin who said that. You'll have to ask him.

You are the one that said they should. " And yeah the gay tourists/athletes should leave the children alone."

Because that is the topic at hand.

#18 Posted by lostrib (34151 posts) -

I have a feeling that the olympics are not going to go well

#19 Posted by toast_burner (21416 posts) -

@deeliman said:

@whipassmt said:

@deeliman: I don't know, it's Putin who said that. You'll have to ask him.

You are the one that said they should. " And yeah the gay tourists/athletes should leave the children alone."

Because that is the topic at hand.

Are you really this daft? You agreed with Putin's stance so you should be able to defend it

#20 Posted by whipassmt (13987 posts) -

Aww, like any of these assholes can stop me from talking to my kids (or anyone else's, for that matter) about homosexuality.

You have kids? I thought you find kids annoying and didn't have any kids? Or do you mean the kids at your work?

And besides you're not in Russia.

#21 Posted by Makhaidos (1613 posts) -

@Makhaidos said:

Aww, like any of these assholes can stop me from talking to my kids (or anyone else's, for that matter) about homosexuality.

You have kids? I thought you find kids annoying and didn't have any kids? Or do you mean the kids at your work?

And besides you're not in Russia.

My hypothetical kids.

#22 Posted by whipassmt (13987 posts) -

@whipassmt said:

@Makhaidos said:

Aww, like any of these assholes can stop me from talking to my kids (or anyone else's, for that matter) about homosexuality.

You have kids? I thought you find kids annoying and didn't have any kids? Or do you mean the kids at your work?

And besides you're not in Russia.

My hypothetical kids.

oh. Well since they don't exist, you're right, no one will stop you from talking to them about whatever you like.

#23 Posted by deeliman (2386 posts) -

@deeliman said:

@whipassmt said:

@deeliman: I don't know, it's Putin who said that. You'll have to ask him.

You are the one that said they should. " And yeah the gay tourists/athletes should leave the children alone."

Because that is the topic at hand.

Like toastburner said, if you agree with a position you should be able to defend it.

#24 Posted by whipassmt (13987 posts) -

@deeliman: @toast_burner:

"daft"? hold on let me open Wordperfect and look up what the word means in its dictionary. Aha! here it is: daft > adjective informal chiefly Brit. silly; foolish. Origin Old English, 'mild, meek'.

okay, as I've already said I don't really know the specifics of this law.

#25 Posted by osirisx3 (1756 posts) -

I bet this is an attempt to move russia away from the left. Many people still have strong feelings towards the USSR and the communist party is powerful. So putin is pushing towards the right to stop the communist from getting more power.

#26 Edited by whipassmt (13987 posts) -

@osirisx3 said:

I bet this is an attempt to move russia away from the left. Many people still have strong feelings towards the USSR and the communist party is powerful. So putin is pushing towards the right to stop the communist from getting more power.

Maybe, who knows. I didn't know that there was still a lot of attachment to the bad old days of the USSR. People complain in the U.S. complain about Putin as it is, imagine if the commies came back to power.

#27 Posted by toast_burner (21416 posts) -

@deeliman: @toast_burner:

"daft"? hold on let me open Wordperfect and look up what the word means in its dictionary. Aha! here it is: daft > adjective informal chiefly Brit. silly; foolish. Origin Old English, 'mild, meek'.

okay, as I've already said I don't really know the specifics of this law.

Then why are you supporting it?

#28 Posted by RadecSupreme (4638 posts) -

Putin is not very intelligent when it comes to people is he?

#29 Posted by whipassmt (13987 posts) -

@whipassmt said:

@deeliman: @toast_burner:

"daft"? hold on let me open Wordperfect and look up what the word means in its dictionary. Aha! here it is: daft > adjective informal chiefly Brit. silly; foolish. Origin Old English, 'mild, meek'.

okay, as I've already said I don't really know the specifics of this law.

Then why are you supporting it?

I'm not. I'm neutral. I don't care either way.

#30 Posted by Aljosa23 (24707 posts) -

Damn, I didn't know whipassmt was a homophobe on top of being a pedophilia apologist.

#31 Posted by deeliman (2386 posts) -

@Aljosa23 said:

Damn, I didn't know whipassmt was a homophobe on top of being a pedophilia apologist.

Pedophillia apologist?

#32 Edited by whipassmt (13987 posts) -

@Aljosa23 said:

Damn, I didn't know whipassmt was a homophobe on top of being a pedophilia apologist.

Do you mean homophone? When I type the word "homophobe" into WordPerfect the word gets red underlined, so it ain't no real word!

#33 Posted by Aljosa23 (24707 posts) -

@deeliman said:

@Aljosa23 said:

Damn, I didn't know whipassmt was a homophobe on top of being a pedophilia apologist.

Pedophillia apologist?

Yeah man. He's a hardcore Catholic that completely brushes off all the child molestation in the church. Pretty disgusting.

#34 Posted by whipassmt (13987 posts) -

@deeliman said:

@Aljosa23 said:

Damn, I didn't know whipassmt was a homophobe on top of being a pedophilia apologist.

Pedophillia apologist?

don't listen to Al, he's Canadian, hell they don't even know how to make bacon properly. Also it's odd that I'm supposedly the "pedophilia apologist" when I said that the gay athletes and tourists should leave the children alone. And I've previously said that the Boyscouts shouldn't let gay adults supervise scout trips.

#35 Posted by deeliman (2386 posts) -

@deeliman said:

@Aljosa23 said:

Damn, I didn't know whipassmt was a homophobe on top of being a pedophilia apologist.

Pedophillia apologist?

don't listen to Al, he's Canadian, hell they don't even know how to make bacon properly. Also it's odd that I'm supposedly the "pedophilia apologist" when I said that the gay athletes and tourists should leave the children alone. And I've previously said that the Boyscouts shouldn't let gay adults supervise scout trips.

Because all gay people are pedophiles...

#37 Posted by Aljosa23 (24707 posts) -

@whipassmt: Wow so you are a homophobe. Damn, I was just being a dick but holy shit

#38 Edited by Master_Live (14162 posts) -

@whipassmt said:

@deeliman said:

@Aljosa23 said:

Damn, I didn't know whipassmt was a homophobe on top of being a pedophilia apologist.

Pedophillia apologist?

don't listen to Al, he's Canadian, hell they don't even know how to make bacon properly. Also it's odd that I'm supposedly the "pedophilia apologist" when I said that the gay athletes and tourists should leave the children alone. And I've previously said that the Boyscouts shouldn't let gay adults supervise scout trips.

Are gays, statistically, more likely to be pedophiles?

#39 Posted by jimkabrhel (15417 posts) -

@Aljosa23 said:

@whipassmt: Wow so you are a homophobe. Damn, I was just being a dick but holy shit

Seconded.

#40 Posted by Riverwolf007 (23496 posts) -

if he hates gay propaganda so much then how come this exists?

#41 Edited by deeliman (2386 posts) -

@whipassmt said:

@deeliman said:

@Aljosa23 said:

Damn, I didn't know whipassmt was a homophobe on top of being a pedophilia apologist.

Pedophillia apologist?

don't listen to Al, he's Canadian, hell they don't even know how to make bacon properly. Also it's odd that I'm supposedly the "pedophilia apologist" when I said that the gay athletes and tourists should leave the children alone. And I've previously said that the Boyscouts shouldn't let gay adults supervise scout trips.

Are gays, statistically, more likely to be pedophiles?

Nobody knows, pedophiles aren't exactly open about being pedophiles.

#42 Posted by whipassmt (13987 posts) -

@deeliman said:

@whipassmt said:

@deeliman said:

@Aljosa23 said:

Damn, I didn't know whipassmt was a homophobe on top of being a pedophilia apologist.

Pedophillia apologist?

don't listen to Al, he's Canadian, hell they don't even know how to make bacon properly. Also it's odd that I'm supposedly the "pedophilia apologist" when I said that the gay athletes and tourists should leave the children alone. And I've previously said that the Boyscouts shouldn't let gay adults supervise scout trips.

Because all gay people are pedophiles...

why take the chance. It's a liability to have a man that is attracted to males sleeping in a tent with a bunch of boy scouts, and I doubt the group wants to get sued.

#43 Edited by Master_Live (14162 posts) -

@deeliman said:

@Master_Live said:

@whipassmt said:

@deeliman said:

@Aljosa23 said:

Damn, I didn't know whipassmt was a homophobe on top of being a pedophilia apologist.

Pedophillia apologist?

don't listen to Al, he's Canadian, hell they don't even know how to make bacon properly. Also it's odd that I'm supposedly the "pedophilia apologist" when I said that the gay athletes and tourists should leave the children alone. And I've previously said that the Boyscouts shouldn't let gay adults supervise scout trips.

Are gays, statistically, more likely to be pedophiles?

Nobody knows, pedophiles aren't exactly open about being pedophiles.

But we do have crime statistics.

#44 Edited by Master_Live (14162 posts) -

if he hates gay propaganda so much then how come this exists?


Because he is a man and he is 40.

#45 Posted by Barbariser (6724 posts) -

I'm pretty sure that there were lots of people in the West who linked homosexuality with pedophilia as late as a decade ago (wouldn't be surprised if it's still going on), so it's not too shocking for me that this kind of thing happened in Russia which is easily 20 years behind the West in most aspects. After all, a common way to demonize a group of individuals is to portray them as a threat to "vulnerable" members of society so that you can rile people up to "retaliate" against said group in "self-defense", and linking child molesters to gays is a very old tradition amongst homophobes.

#46 Posted by deeliman (2386 posts) -

@deeliman said:

@Master_Live said:

@whipassmt said:

@deeliman said:

@Aljosa23 said:

Damn, I didn't know whipassmt was a homophobe on top of being a pedophilia apologist.

Pedophillia apologist?

don't listen to Al, he's Canadian, hell they don't even know how to make bacon properly. Also it's odd that I'm supposedly the "pedophilia apologist" when I said that the gay athletes and tourists should leave the children alone. And I've previously said that the Boyscouts shouldn't let gay adults supervise scout trips.

Are gays, statistically, more likely to be pedophiles?

Nobody knows, pedophiles aren't exactly open about being pedophiles.

But we do have crime statistics.

Being a pedophile isn't a crime.

#47 Posted by Master_Live (14162 posts) -

@deeliman said:

@Master_Live said:

@deeliman said:

@Master_Live said:

@whipassmt said:

@deeliman said:

@Aljosa23 said:

Damn, I didn't know whipassmt was a homophobe on top of being a pedophilia apologist.

Pedophillia apologist?

don't listen to Al, he's Canadian, hell they don't even know how to make bacon properly. Also it's odd that I'm supposedly the "pedophilia apologist" when I said that the gay athletes and tourists should leave the children alone. And I've previously said that the Boyscouts shouldn't let gay adults supervise scout trips.

Are gays, statistically, more likely to be pedophiles?

Nobody knows, pedophiles aren't exactly open about being pedophiles.

But we do have crime statistics.

Being a pedophile isn't a crime.

Nope, but child molestation is.

#48 Posted by deeliman (2386 posts) -

@deeliman said:

@Master_Live said:

@deeliman said:

@Master_Live said:

@whipassmt said:

@deeliman said:

@Aljosa23 said:

Damn, I didn't know whipassmt was a homophobe on top of being a pedophilia apologist.

Pedophillia apologist?

don't listen to Al, he's Canadian, hell they don't even know how to make bacon properly. Also it's odd that I'm supposedly the "pedophilia apologist" when I said that the gay athletes and tourists should leave the children alone. And I've previously said that the Boyscouts shouldn't let gay adults supervise scout trips.

Are gays, statistically, more likely to be pedophiles?

Nobody knows, pedophiles aren't exactly open about being pedophiles.

But we do have crime statistics.

Being a pedophile isn't a crime.

Nope, but child molestation is.

Than those crime statistics will only tell you whether gay people are more likely to be child molesters.

#49 Posted by Masculus (2830 posts) -

Perhaps he meant not to expose children to all the homoerotic shit in gay parades.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see the US, all of the sudden, becoming the world most liberal nation for the duration of the Olympics. Land of the Free, Home of the Brave, Refugee for Gays.

#50 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -

@deeliman said:

@Aljosa23 said:

Damn, I didn't know whipassmt was a homophobe on top of being a pedophilia apologist.

Pedophillia apologist?

don't listen to Al, he's Canadian, hell they don't even know how to make bacon properly. Also it's odd that I'm supposedly the "pedophilia apologist" when I said that the gay athletes and tourists should leave the children alone. And I've previously said that the Boyscouts shouldn't let gay adults supervise scout trips.

Don't waste your time. Gays preach acceptance, but what they really mean is everybody but them. They expect you to accept them, yet if you don't, they can't accept you. They should practice what they preach, but they don't. They just attack you if you don't accept them and support their gay lifestyle.