Putin hails Trump as the absolute leader of the US presidential race

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#1 Stesilaus
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President Putin has lavished praise upon Donald Trump, stating: "He [Trump] is a very outstanding person, talented, without any doubt."

He then went on to say that Donald Trump is the "absolute leader" in the US presidential race.

In view of President Putin's impeccable judgement, I suppose I will have to reassess my views towards Trump's candidacy. :-(

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#2 fenriz275
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I won't believe until it they ride horses together shirtless. I hope someone is already writing porn with this happening.

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@fenriz275 said:

I won't believe until it they ride horses together shirtless. I hope someone is already writing porn with this happening.

Pffft, horses. Bears!

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#4 Ant_17
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I'm confused.

Do Americans care what the Russian president says, or it's just the internet?

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#5 grungeman91
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Vladimir Putin is one of the most offensive looking men I've ever seen.

If Trump wins the election, We are proper f**ked.

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#6 RadecSupreme
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Of course he wants Trump to win. He wants the USA to regress.

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Im sure he meant that in a non serious way since he thinks so lowly of Americans, he probably means that of course a person like Trump exist in the US and behaves like that and has popularity like he does because thats what you can expect of the US.

And he's right.

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#8 jun_aka_pekto
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I'm sure Putin thinks of Trump as the ideal (hair, height, build, loudness, filthy richness, trophy wife) despot he wishes to be.

If they ever meet and looked at each other eye to eye, Putin would need a box to stand on first. He He. ;-)

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So Trump isn't outstanding and talented, is he ? Those billions he probably made by pure luck. He's not the presidential race leader either, right ? Polls are lying I guess. You may like Putin or not, but he just states obvious.

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#10 Archangel3371
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Well now there is someone you want supporting you.

/sarcasm

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#11 foxhound_fox
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That guy who is turning Russia back into the USSR is endorsing one of the most ethically and morally backward people to ever run for president?

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#12 TheWalkingGhost
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Stesilaus thread, ok..Moving on.

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@RTUUMM said:

Im sure he meant that in a non serious way since he thinks so lowly of Americans, he probably means that of course a person like Trump exist in the US and behaves like that and has popularity like he does because thats what you can expect of the US.

And he's right.

:Facepalm:

Reassess your life, now.

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#14 GazaAli
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@Ant_17 said:

I'm confused.

Do Americans care what the Russian president says, or it's just the internet?

He's quite popular among the conservative base.

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#15 TheWalkingGhost
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@GazaAli: :Facepalm: No, no he's not.

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Putin is a geopolitical chess board master.

Trump is just good with money and knows how to create a following.

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@TheWalkingGhost said:

@GazaAli: :Facepalm: No, no he's not.

He actually is. The south loves him. They're just craving for a leader.

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@Gaming-Planet said:

Putin is a geopolitical chess board master.

Trump is just good with money and knows how to create a following.

@Gaming-Planet said:
@TheWalkingGhost said:

@GazaAli: :Facepalm: No, no he's not.

He actually is. The south loves him. They're just craving for a leader.

You are just being too obvious at this point. Try harder.

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@GazaAli said:
@Ant_17 said:

I'm confused.

Do Americans care what the Russian president says, or it's just the internet?

He's quite popular among the conservative base.

I don't think that's true. Just the ones who more vocal but still in the minority. Trump is in fact just as divisive inside of the right as he is left and right since winning the nomination means inevitable left victory in the general election.

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#20 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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So one of the most evil people in the world likes one of the most stupid people in politics? Is that really a surprise to anyone?

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#21 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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@jhonMalcovich said:

So Trump isn't outstanding and talented, is he ? Those billions he probably made by pure luck. He's not the presidential race leader either, right ? Polls are lying I guess. You may like Putin or not, but he just states obvious.

Trump is only rich because of his father's giant inheritance. He'd be even richer than he is now if he just invested the money into the S&P500 and done nothing with it.

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@Aljosa23: or he could have lost it all. Determining somebody's success with hindsight on the stock market is stupid.

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#23 bmanva
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@jhonMalcovich said:

So Trump isn't outstanding and talented, is he ? Those billions he probably made by pure luck. He's not the presidential race leader either, right ? Polls are lying I guess. You may like Putin or not, but he just states obvious.

Except Trump isn't the presidential race leader, Clinton is. So is it obvious that Hilary is more outstanding and more talented?

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#24 nethernova
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@jhonMalcovich said:

So Trump isn't outstanding and talented, is he ? Those billions he probably made by pure luck. He's not the presidential race leader either, right ? Polls are lying I guess. You may like Putin or not, but he just states obvious.

Oh yes, he's a genius. Probably the smartest person on the planet. You need to get out of your cave more often.

Lulz

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@n64dd said:

@Aljosa23: or he could have lost it all. Determining somebody's success with hindsight on the stock market is stupid.

The argument is that he could have made more by investing in the market writ-large which is the default diversify-for-safe-growth method.

It's not that he didn't do as well as he COULD HAVE. It's that he didn't even get the same returns that the broad market got.

If you get returns that are less than the broad market growth, then touting your business talents simply amounts to throwing stones from within a glass house.

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@bmanva said:
@GazaAli said:
@Ant_17 said:

I'm confused.

Do Americans care what the Russian president says, or it's just the internet?

He's quite popular among the conservative base.

I don't think that's true. Just the ones who more vocal but still in the minority. Trump is in fact just as divisive inside of the right as he is left and right since winning the nomination means inevitable left victory in the general election.

That's an understatement when conservatives as prominent as Sarah Palin, Pat Buchanan, and Rush Limbaugh have lauded Putin with varying degrees of enthusiasm. Before you dismiss the potency and relevancy of such acclamation, we must, for instance, remember that Limbaugh et.al influence the U.S's conservative base enough for the Republican presidential candidates to conduct the party's primaries with their appeasement in sight. The latest Republican debate hosted an apt expression of that reality when Trump -- notorious for his intransigent insolence -- quickly placated conservative commentators who lashed out against his attacks on their darling Cruz who proved popular among the conservative base and its leaders.

Admiring a foreign leader of a supposed foe isn't necessarily treasonous (the conservative base in the U.S and elsewhere is treasonous but for other reasons). Whether such admiration is commendable or detestable is debatable. Putin's popularity among conservatives stems from their antipathy for Obama and the LGBT movement in the U.S and the victory it scored with the latest SCOTUS's ruling. They see Putin as a religious, traditionalist nationalist and a valiant defender of traditional marriage and values. It is in that context that one judges their admiration of Putin.

As for Trump's divisiveness, it mostly relates to the Republican Establishment and not to the base itself, as the polls continue to increasingly underscore.

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#27 Mercenary848
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The Neanderthal/barbarian mentality of conservatives actually look up to Putin. So they will approve of this endorsement.

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Trump is my favorite American President so far.

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@GazaAli said:
They see Putin as a religious, traditionalist nationalist and a valiant defender of traditional marriage and values. It is in that context that one judges their admiration of Putin.

It's perhaps understandable that some US conservatives would admire Putin because he appeals to their social values.

However, Putin also has a keen following amongst leftists and anti-imperialists. In my case, it's his bold moves on the global stage that have endeared him to me.

I found the US-led depredations of Iraq and Libya thoroughly repugnant, not only because they entailed the destruction of entire nations, economies and societies that posed no threat to the US, but also because they were justified with brazen, bare-faced lies.

So it has delighted me to see Putin using his country's military to:

  • punish arrogant NATO vassals (cf Georgia, 2008),
  • defend people who chose to resist the tyranny of US-State-Department-installed puppet regimes (cf. Crimea, Donetsk and Lugansk, 2014) and
  • thwart NATO's ongoing attempts at regime-change (cf. Syria 2015).

And the candor with which Putin has described his enemies only adds to his appeal. Who but Putin would have had the temerity to call out Turkey's Erdogan as the vile, backstabbing, double-crossing terrorist-supporter that he is?

In short, my admiration for Putin stems from his truthfulness, his integrity and the fierce resolve with which he has defended nations that would otherwise have been destroyed utterly by the United States' jackbooted quest for global hegemony.

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#30 bmanva
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@GazaAli said:
@bmanva said:
@GazaAli said:
@Ant_17 said:

I'm confused.

Do Americans care what the Russian president says, or it's just the internet?

He's quite popular among the conservative base.

I don't think that's true. Just the ones who more vocal but still in the minority. Trump is in fact just as divisive inside of the right as he is left and right since winning the nomination means inevitable left victory in the general election.

That's an understatement when conservatives as prominent as Sarah Palin, Pat Buchanan, and Rush Limbaugh have lauded Putin with varying degrees of enthusiasm. Before you dismiss the potency and relevancy of such acclamation, we must, for instance, remember that Limbaugh et.al influence the U.S's conservative base enough for the Republican presidential candidates to conduct the party's primaries with their appeasement in sight. The latest Republican debate hosted an apt expression of that reality when Trump -- notorious for his intransigent insolence -- quickly placated conservative commentators who lashed out against his attacks on their darling Cruz who proved popular among the conservative base and its leaders.

Admiring a foreign leader of a supposed foe isn't necessarily treasonous (the conservative base in the U.S and elsewhere is treasonous but for other reasons). Whether such admiration is commendable or detestable is debatable. Putin's popularity among conservatives stems from their antipathy for Obama and the LGBT movement in the U.S and the victory it scored with the latest SCOTUS's ruling. They see Putin as a religious, traditionalist nationalist and a valiant defender of traditional marriage and values. It is in that context that one judges their admiration of Putin.

As for Trump's divisiveness, it mostly relates to the Republican Establishment and not to the base itself, as the polls continue to increasingly underscore.

I'm glad you want to discuss GOP and Russia further, because that's a perfect example of the ongoing struggle between the vocal minority and silent majority inside the party. None of whom you listed are the real current mover and shaker of GOP party. Palin was a demographic bait for women and youth votes to contrast McCain, which was eon ago in political terms. Buchanan and Limbaugh are political commentators on one end of Republican spectrum. You apparently understand this as well, since you tried to head off that line of argument by establishing their influence over the candidates (whose best interest is to appease every conservative group; it's not exclusive to the Limbaugh crowd). But you have ignored the other opposing conservative leaders and commentators. Romney ran on a platform of tougher approach against Putin (even went on to described Russia as "the greatest geopolitical threat to America"). Eric Cantor, the house majority leader demanded a stronger reaction from Obama to the Russia annexation. Glen Beck has long viewed Russia as an foe to US as well as rest of western world.

Trump's divide is both the establishment and voter base. Trump has a lead in the poll for sure but I have seen no poll where Trump holds a majority of Republican base vote. In fact, latest CBS/NYT suggest that majority of the Republican voters believe it is still too early to say who they will vote for. Incidentally, the previous established 40 rule is dominating the primary discussion since there's a good chance no candidate would hold majority in this election cycle.

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If Trump wins, I am proper f*cked. Hopefully those internment camps have Wi-Fi.

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@RTUUMM said:

Im sure he meant that in a non serious way since he thinks so lowly of Americans, he probably means that of course a person like Trump exist in the US and behaves like that and has popularity like he does because thats what you can expect of the US.

And he's right.

This

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#33 servomaster
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I'm not surprised that he's laughing at the U.S. for supporting a troll.

Thanks conservatives, you've made us a laughing stock....again.

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#34 comp_atkins
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sure, nominate Trump.

especially if you're Hillary fans.

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