Obama wants to increase minimum wage rate to $10.10/hr

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#1 Edited by jasean79 (2338 posts) -

Prepare for the cost of everything to go up, folks.

Someone please take his (executive) pen away from him!

#2 Edited by jimkabrhel (15416 posts) -

He's planning to use executive order to raise the minimum wage to $10.10... for government contractors. That's pretty much the only thing he can do without Congress' approval.

So this isn't a big as you make it. And the cost of many things is going up with Obama's executive pen. What's driving up the cost of propane? Demand and cold weather. What's driving up the cost of beef? Weather and crop issues, largely.

Obama isn't God.

#3 Posted by Master_Live (13994 posts) -

Good for him.

#4 Posted by jasean79 (2338 posts) -

He's planning to use executive order to raise the minimum wage to $10.10... for government contractors. That's pretty much the only thing he can do without Congress' approval.

So this isn't a big as you make it. And the cost of many things is going up with Obama's executive pen. What's driving up the cost of propane? Demand and cold weather. What's driving up the cost of beef? Weather and crop issues, largely.

Obama isn't God.

Give it time, my friend. He's undermined the constitution quite a few times in his term as president. He's still got 2 years left...

Obama isn't God? To some he is the Messiah.

#5 Edited by dave123321 (33604 posts) -

I think Obama is only god to conservatives

#6 Posted by Master_Live (13994 posts) -

He can call me and I will tell him where he can stick that "pen of action".

#7 Posted by dave123321 (33604 posts) -

Mostly conservatives amongst those who see Obama as god

#8 Posted by jimkabrhel (15416 posts) -
#9 Edited by jasean79 (2338 posts) -

I think Obama is only god to conservatives

I think you mean "liberals".

#10 Posted by Capitan_Kid (6522 posts) -

Complaining about getting more money? Smh

#11 Edited by jasean79 (2338 posts) -

Complaining about getting more money? Smh

I'm not getting any more money from this deal, because I don't make minimum wage. You think I'm going to see a $3/hr hike in my pay because entry level jobs like this got one? Not a chance.

#12 Posted by jimkabrhel (15416 posts) -

@jasean79 said:

@dave123321 said:

I think Obama is only god to conservatives

I think you mean "liberals".

Bull. Conservatives only think that liberal view Obama that way, but if you actually talk to most true liberals and progressive, you'l find they're just as unhappy with him, albeit for different reasons.

#13 Posted by jasean79 (2338 posts) -

List them. And then tell me how the SCOTUS has rebuked him for his violations against the Constitution, as it should.

Violation of the Fifth Amendment in the killing of US Citizen Anwalr al-Alwakin in Yemen

Obamacare

Obama's war on Libya

The list goes on. He think he can cherry pick which laws as president he follows and ignores. And that's where the problem lies.

#14 Posted by jimkabrhel (15416 posts) -

@jasean79 said:

@jimkabrhel said:

List them. And then tell me how the SCOTUS has rebuked him for his violations against the Constitution, as it should.

Violation of the Fifth Amendment in the killing of US Citizen Anwalr al-Alwakin in Yemen

Obamacare

Obama's war on Libya

The list goes on. He think he can cherry pick which laws as president he follows and ignores. And that's where the problem lies.

You really know your right-wing media talking points, don't you.

I'll agree with you on the first one. Obamacare was deemed constitutional by the SCOTUS. Just because you don't agree doesn't change the decision. The War Power Act gave Obama some leeway in how to deal with Libya, which he took. He also didn't put boots on the ground, or spend lots of money, which would have required Congressional approval.

So unless you plan on giving me an extended list of acts by Obama that weren't done in similar ways by most President, you are just parroting talking points, not making legit criticisms.

#15 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16744 posts) -

He's planning to use executive order to raise the minimum wage to $10.10... for government contractors. That's pretty much the only thing he can do without Congress' approval.

So this isn't a big as you make it. And the cost of many things is going up with Obama's executive pen. What's driving up the cost of propane? Demand and cold weather. What's driving up the cost of beef? Weather and crop issues, largely.

Obama isn't God.

Oh please. Prices were rising long before winter got here.

#16 Edited by Fightingfan (38011 posts) -

@jasean79 said:

@Capitan_Kid said:

Complaining about getting more money? Smh

I'm not getting any more money from this deal, because I don't make minimum wage. You think I'm going to see a $3/hr hike in my pay because entry level jobs like this got one? Not a chance.

No, but your pay see a small increase for competition reasons.

Why would someone work their ass off for $12 when they have have a fairly laxed job @ 10.25ish?

#17 Edited by Haziqonfire (36344 posts) -

Minimum wage is like $10.50 here in Ontario, I can't imagine trying to live off of anything lower than $10 =/.

#18 Posted by GazaAli (22492 posts) -

@jasean79 said:

@dave123321 said:

I think Obama is only god to conservatives

I think you mean "liberals".

No conservatives, they see him as God the same way diehard infidels see God.

#19 Posted by Fightingfan (38011 posts) -

Minimum wage is like $10.50 here in Ontario, I can't imagine trying to live off of anything lower than $10 =/.

Canada everything is overpriced though.

I see all your Canadians coming down to Florida and filling up barrels of nonethanol gasoline; don't you think I don't know!!!

#20 Edited by Fightingfan (38011 posts) -

@jasean79 said:

@jimkabrhel said:

List them. And then tell me how the SCOTUS has rebuked him for his violations against the Constitution, as it should.

Violation of the Fifth Amendment in the killing of US Citizen Anwalr al-Alwakin in Yemen

I don't understand that one. I was always under the impression the US constitution doesn't apply to those off US soil.

I've heard the first amendment debate regarding the killing of Alwakin, but never the fifth? Patriot act destroys both anyway.

#21 Posted by whipassmt (13960 posts) -

He's planning to use executive order to raise the minimum wage to $10.10... for government contractors. That's pretty much the only thing he can do without Congress' approval.

So this isn't a big as you make it. And the cost of many things is going up with Obama's executive pen. What's driving up the cost of propane? Demand and cold weather. What's driving up the cost of beef? Weather and crop issues, largely.

Obama isn't God.

Would that minimum raise also apply to government employees or only to government contractors? Or do the government employees already all make more than that amount ($10.10) anyway?

If government contractors have to increase the amount of money they spend on wages, they might very well charge the government more for their services or products, although maybe they might charge more for fear of a cheaper competitor taking their contract.

#22 Posted by osirisx3 (1739 posts) -

i heard they might raise the min wage in ontario to 14 bucks an hour

#23 Edited by jasean79 (2338 posts) -

@GazaAli said:

@jasean79 said:

@dave123321 said:

I think Obama is only god to conservatives

I think you mean "liberals".

No conservatives, they see him as God the same way diehard infidels see God.

You're an idiot if you believe that.

#24 Edited by jimkabrhel (15416 posts) -

@jimkabrhel said:

He's planning to use executive order to raise the minimum wage to $10.10... for government contractors. That's pretty much the only thing he can do without Congress' approval.

So this isn't a big as you make it. And the cost of many things is going up with Obama's executive pen. What's driving up the cost of propane? Demand and cold weather. What's driving up the cost of beef? Weather and crop issues, largely.

Obama isn't God.

Would that minimum raise also apply to government employees or only to government contractors? Or do the government employees already all make more than that amount ($10.10) anyway?

If government contractors have to increase the amount of money they spend on wages, they might very well charge the government more for their services or products, although maybe they might charge more for fear of a cheaper competitor taking their contract.

As far as I've read, it isn't for all government workers, just contractors. I don't know if the POTUS can raise the minimum wage for all government workers by EO. It may raise cost, but I doubt it.

#25 Edited by one_plum (6330 posts) -
@jasean79 said:

Prepare for the cost of everything to go up, folks.

Someone please take his (executive) pen away from him!

Companies inflate prices all the time regardless of minimum wage increases. Only next time they can use this wage increase excuse .

#26 Posted by Treflis (11425 posts) -

I do not see how raising the minimum wage is such a bad thing.

Unless there are those that want people to be poor.

#27 Posted by Master_Live (13994 posts) -

List them. And then tell me how the SCOTUS has rebuked him for his violations against the Constitution, as it should.

Just because the SCOTUS hasn't rebuked so far doesn't mean he hasn't violated the Constitution, SCOTUS errs too. Like that ridiculous tax justification for upholding Obamacare, but that is the past. He is, however, about to get his ass handed to him for the reckless and arrogant manner in which he made his recces appointments. Good, enough with the imperial presidencies.

#28 Posted by Sword-Demon (6943 posts) -

wouldn't that just cause layoffs and inflation?

I don't think raising the minimum wage is as easy as signing a piece of paper. The economy has to be ready for that kind of change, and I don't think it is.

but what do I know.. This isn't really my area of expertise.

#29 Edited by LOXO7 (5549 posts) -

He's planning to use executive order to raise the minimum wage to $10.10... for government contractors. That's pretty much the only thing he can do without Congress' approval.

So this isn't a big as you make it. And the cost of many things is going up with Obama's executive pen. What's driving up the cost of propane? Demand and cold weather. What's driving up the cost of beef? Weather and crop issues, largely.

Obama isn't God.

The government pays it's employees through taxes or it borrows using the Federal Reserve. Creating more money makes the currency less valuable. When this happens everything seems to look more expensive, but in reality it is the dollar that has lost it's purchasing power.

#30 Posted by RadecSupreme (4630 posts) -

@jasean79 said:

Prepare for the cost of everything to go up, folks.

Someone please take his (executive) pen away from him!

Uh, the cost of things always goes up. Gasoline never went back down in price because the companies were making a lot of money.

#31 Posted by dave123321 (33604 posts) -
#32 Posted by dave123321 (33604 posts) -

By which I mean I mostly see conservatives propagating this idea of Obama being an infallible god to his side of the aisle(democrats, liberals are the usual candidates).

When that is largely not the case. Obama as god is a good tool to have in the tool box if you are against him for a multitude of reasons.

#33 Posted by whipassmt (13960 posts) -
#34 Posted by LJS9502_basic (150064 posts) -

That solves nothing.....then again.....politicians aren't the smartest.

#35 Posted by jimkabrhel (15416 posts) -

@jimkabrhel said:

List them. And then tell me how the SCOTUS has rebuked him for his violations against the Constitution, as it should.

The SCOTUS unanimously ruled against the Dept. of Justice and the EEOC in Hosanna-Tabor v. EEOC, though I don't think Obama personally had much to do with that.

If Obama didn't have anything to do with it, why are you mentioning it in this context?

#36 Posted by Makhaidos (1612 posts) -

Still not a livable wage, but a hell of a lot better than $7.25.

#37 Posted by Toxic-Seahorse (4092 posts) -

@Treflis said:

I do not see how raising the minimum wage is such a bad thing.

Unless there are those that want people to be poor.

Take an entry level economics course and you'll learn roughly what raising minimum wage has the possibility of doing. For one, it could cause unemployment to increase. Companies can't profit anymore and have to cut people. It also means longer hours and worse work conditions due to a lack of employees. Either that, or the companies are forced to raise prices of their goods/services to stay profitable. usually a combination of the two. The primary benefit of raising minimum wage would be better living standards for those that have jobs making minimum wage.

Of course these are all just possibilities, there's no way to know for sure.

#38 Posted by Gaming-Planet (13883 posts) -

It's already $10 where I live, and the cost of living has only gone up, along with grocery shopping.

#39 Edited by t1striker (1549 posts) -

@jasean79 said:

@Capitan_Kid said:

Complaining about getting more money? Smh

I'm not getting any more money from this deal, because I don't make minimum wage. You think I'm going to see a $3/hr hike in my pay because entry level jobs like this got one? Not a chance.

No, but your pay see a small increase for competition reasons.

Why would someone work their ass off for $12 when they have have a fairly laxed job @ 10.25ish?

Actually in my line of experience(I'm sure it is different in other circumstances) the more pay I got the easier the job seemed to be. I had a job at minimum wage $7.25hr in 2004 and I worked my butt off nonstop all day for 3 years, and then I eventually got a job where I was paid 11.25hr, and boy was it easier I mean sure I worked hard, but it was much less constant you could take a 5 minute break every now and then, and you would still be able to finish the job on time, and again I got another job which was $8.00hr + commission which I would estimate to being around about $16-$17 dollars an hour, but the work was even easier(in fact too easy sometimes), and I worked there for 5 years until I decided to focus on college(which I am currently doing, and am in my 2nd year).

PS: These were all blue collar jobs, I have never had a White-collar job which circumstances may be very different. Also this is only from my perspective, and that really isn't enough to make even a single percentage of a conclusion.

#40 Posted by Serraph105 (27735 posts) -

@t1striker:

that's actually been my experience also, my higher paying jobs have yet to take the physical toll that that the lower paying ones did. Not to mention there is less to do in general. Working retail or fast food is far more exhausting than IT work, obviously there is more brain work involved, but my hours are set in stone and I don't have to deal with difficult customers now that I'm no longer over the phone support.

I'm not saying anyone can do this sort of work, just that it's a lot less difficult than keeping up with a line of customers or trying to keep those same customers you're trying to help from turning the store into a disaster area.

#41 Posted by Lhomity (770 posts) -

Hello, from a country with $16.37 minimum wage for adults, 5.8% unemployment, universal healthcare, and an average lifespan of 82-years.

#42 Edited by -ParaNormaN- (718 posts) -

Minimum Wage here at San Francisco is about $10.50, so it's about time the other districts around here started to get a piece of the pie that is double digit pay, or quad digit pay. Whichever, lol.

Too dumb for maths.

#43 Posted by DarthGumballs (194 posts) -

Everyone complains about prices rising. Do you realize CEO's and companies make more money than ever before and take in more profits than ever before? That they get pay raises EVERY year? Executives get raises and bonuses all the time. When have prices gone up because of that? Yet Paying the people who actually WORK for a living is all of a sudden going to change anything? It won't, Republicans just want you to think that it will.

Companies can afford to pay the workers more. Unless you want the 1% to keep growing and growing infinitely while everyone else gets screwed over.

#44 Posted by jasean79 (2338 posts) -

By which I mean I mostly see conservatives propagating this idea of Obama being an infallible god to his side of the aisle(democrats, liberals are the usual candidates).

When that is largely not the case. Obama as god is a good tool to have in the tool box if you are against him for a multitude of reasons.

As a conservative, I don't view him as a god to his people. I think he values himself as one, however. And the media who loves him and will never find fault in his actions (or televise them, rather) just serves to boost his dictator ego even more.

#45 Posted by Haziqonfire (36344 posts) -
#46 Edited by PonchoTaco (1939 posts) -

$10.10/hour is still not enough to live on.

#47 Edited by thegerg (14650 posts) -

@darthgumballs said:

Everyone complains about prices rising. Do you realize CEO's and companies make more money than ever before and take in more profits than ever before? That they get pay raises EVERY year? Executives get raises and bonuses all the time. When have prices gone up because of that? Yet Paying the people who actually WORK for a living is all of a sudden going to change anything? It won't, Republicans just want you to think that it will.

Companies can afford to pay the workers more. Unless you want the 1% to keep growing and growing infinitely while everyone else gets screwed over.

"Do you realize CEO's and companies make more money than ever before and take in more profits than ever before? That they get pay raises EVERY year?"

Not all of them. Let's try to avoid ignorant generalizations.

"Companies can afford to pay the workers more."

Some can, others can't. Again, let's try to avoid such generalizations.

#48 Edited by Master_Live (13994 posts) -

@PonchoTaco said:

$10.10/hour is still not enough to live on.

Tell me the number Poncho, how much do you want?

#49 Edited by LexLas (4210 posts) -

@jasean79 said:

Prepare for the cost of everything to go up, folks.

Someone please take his (executive) pen away from him!

But the cost of everything has gone way up over the last minimum wage ? That wouldn't be fair. I just don't get it, $10.10 is only fair.

#50 Posted by jimkabrhel (15416 posts) -

Stockholders of profitable companies won't want their cash flow ebbing, so companies won't pay their workers more.