Obama passes 23 executive orders on Gun control; Republicans over-react.

Republicans have consistently painted Presidential Executive orders as tyrannical laws outside the bounds of Congress but in reality he can only pass directives into how the federal agencies operate. i.e. Obama could re-schedule Marijuana on the FDA scale or not fund prosecutions in federal court but he can't legalize it.

So today he passed 23 Executive orders on gun control that Conservative opponents of Obama have called him a dictator, a tyrant, imperial, for proposing executive actions he believes would help prevent gun violence. But all these "orders" hardly change anything monumental on Guns and really affect the bureaucracy side of background checks.

While I'm personally against gun control at a federal level immediately after a tragedy, a lot of these executive orders are just plain common sense. Unfortunately they don't seem to do a whole lot in preventing gun tragedies but they're certainly not the tyrannical crusade that republicans are painting.

Here's a quick summary of them, Actual orders can be read: here.

1. Make federal info easier to obtain for background checks
2. Address Health insurance data that prevents info from being available in background checks
3. Give incentives for states that share background info
4. Direct Attorney General to double check individuals that are banned from owning guns.
5. "Propose" a law for cops to run background checks on people returning guns.
6. Publish an ATF letter for how to run background checks.
7. Launch a responsible gun ownership Campaign
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and safes.
9. Require Federal law enforcement (FBI, CIA, etc) to trace guns recovered.
10. Require Release of DOJ reports on lost/stolen guns to law enforcement
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders and school officials with training for gun situations
13. Maximize eforcement efforts to prevent gun violence (pretty vague)
14. Direct CDC on gun research
15. Promote new gun safety technologies and challenge private sector.
16. Clarify that obamacare doesn't prohibit doctors from asking patients about their guns.
17. Clarify that No federal law prevents doctors from reporting violence to law enforcment.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop emergency response plans for schools and churches in shootouts.
20. Clarify mental health services provided under Medicaid.
21. Finalize Obamacare regulations for mental health care services
22. Commit to finalizing mental health care regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

In terms of laws on actual guns, it's just the laws CA already has. Nothing changes here (which is good because it's strict enough).

[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"]Background checks? Research? Can we impeach this dictator already?LastDay-

Background checks? Research? Can we impeach this dictator already?UCF_Knight

[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"]Background checks? Research? Can we impeach this dictator already?comp_atkins

[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"]Background checks? Research? Can we impeach this dictator already?comp_atkins

From what I can see, he's not that interested in actually getting assault weapons and high capacity magazines banned. He knows full well that legislation won't make it through the house and maybe even the senate.

I was getting kind of worried about what kind of EOs he was going to pass. Though logic dictated he wasn't going to be able to pass much. Still was a little worried.

Ofcourse he proposed that. He knows banning certain weapons and clips is a losing battle. I think people are upset at the clowns on here spewing false information and forcing their standards of living down their throats, overall than the bill itselfs. Enforce gun responsibility, and research social changes and patterns in society and veto everything else.

From what I can see, he's not that interested in actually getting assault weapons and high capacity magazines banned. He knows full well that legislation won't make it through the house and maybe even the senate.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

From what I can see, he's not that interested in actually getting assault weapons and high capacity magazines banned. He knows full well that legislation won't make it through the house and maybe even the senate.

nocoolnamejim

Actually I don't think he cares one bit. Biden on the other hand...

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[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

From what I can see, he's not that interested in actually getting assault weapons and high capacity magazines banned. He knows full well that legislation won't make it through the house and maybe even the senate.

Wasdie

Actually I don't think he cares one bit. Biden on the other hand...

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Aljosa23

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Aljosa23

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Ace6301

While I'm personally against gun control at a federal level immediately after a tragedy, a lot of these executive orders are just plain common sense. Unfortunately they don't seem to do a whole lot in preventing gun tragedies but they're certainly not the tyrannical crusade that republicans are painting.

Blue-Sky

That's just frustrating right there. All of these EO's are things that should have already been set in place. It's just sad it takes tragedyafter tragedy to bring common sense into action. I mean WTF?

I'm Ok wuth these.

Its good to see Obama does know his limits.

I'm Ok wuth these.

Its goo to see Obama does know his limits.

dercoo

I'm sure that this is just to pacify the masses who are most upset about the shooting, so that the aministration can look like it's doing something, without actually doing something. And without pissing off most gun owners.

I'm sure that Obama would rather be deaing with that other fun situation, you know, the debt ceiling and sequester.

I'm sure that this is just to pacify the masses who are most upset about the shooting, so that the aministration can look like it's doing something, without actually doing something. And without pissing off most gun owners.

I'm sure that Obama would rather be deaing with that other fun situation, you know, the debt ceiling and sequester.

jimkabrhel

Seems pretty fair, just don't mess w/ my 2nd amendment because of 2 psycho douchebags that had to shoot up places last year. I have a better chance of getting killed by so many other things, god damn fear culture!-RocBoys9489-

2? In what country?

I'm sure that this is just to pacify the masses who are most upset about the shooting, so that the aministration can look like it's doing something, without actually doing something. And without pissing off most gun owners.

I'm sure that Obama would rather be deaing with that other fun situation, you know, the debt ceiling and sequester.

jimkabrhel

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]Seems pretty fair, just don't mess w/ my 2nd amendment because of 2 psycho douchebags that had to shoot up places last year. I have a better chance of getting killed by so many other things, god damn fear culture!JML897

2? In what country?

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

I'm sure that this is just to pacify the masses who are most upset about the shooting, so that the aministration can look like it's doing something, without actually doing something. And without pissing off most gun owners.

I'm sure that Obama would rather be deaing with that other fun situation, you know, the debt ceiling and sequester.

MrPraline

Honestly, if Obama were smart, he would propose legislation where it makes it illegal for the media to say the name/show pics of whoever committed the shootings. -RocBoys9489-

And infringe on their first amendment rights? You're all about the second amendment but not the first one huh?

[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]Seems pretty fair, just don't mess w/ my 2nd amendment because of 2 psycho douchebags that had to shoot up places last year. I have a better chance of getting killed by so many other things, god damn fear culture!-RocBoys9489-

2? In what country?

Republicans have consistently painted Presidential Executive orders as tyrannical laws outside the bounds of Congress but in reality he can only pass directives into how the federal agencies operate. i.e. Obama could re-schedule Marijuana on the FDA scale or not fund prosecutions in federal court but he can't legalize it.

So today he passed 23 Executive orders on gun control that Conservative opponents of Obama have called him a dictator, a tyrant, imperial, for proposing executive actions he believes would help prevent gun violence. But all these "orders" hardly change anything monumental on Guns and really affect the bureaucracy side of background checks.

While I'm personally against gun control at a federal level immediately after a tragedy, a lot of these executive orders are just plain common sense. Unfortunately they don't seem to do a whole lot in preventing gun tragedies but they're certainly not the tyrannical crusade that republicans are painting.

Here's a quick summary of them, Actual orders can be read: here.

1. Make federal info easier to obtain for background checks
2. Address Health insurance data that prevents info from being available in background checks
3. Give incentives for states that share background info
4. Direct Attorney General to double check individuals that are banned from owning guns.
5. "Propose" a law for cops to run background checks on people returning guns.
6. Publish an ATF letter for how to run background checks.
7. Launch a responsible gun ownership Campaign
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and safes.
9. Require Federal law enforcement (FBI, CIA, etc) to trace guns recovered.
10. Require Release of DOJ reports on lost/stolen guns to law enforcement
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders and school officials with training for gun situations
13. Maximize eforcement efforts to prevent gun violence (pretty vague)
14. Direct CDC on gun research
15. Promote new gun safety technologies and challenge private sector.
16. Clarify that obamacare doesn't prohibit doctors from asking patients about their guns.
17. Clarify that No federal law prevents doctors from reporting violence to law enforcment.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop emergency response plans for schools and churches in shootouts.
20. Clarify mental health services provided under Medicaid.
21. Finalize Obamacare regulations for mental health care services
22. Commit to finalizing mental health care regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

Blue-Sky

I don't get it. Those things all seem... positive.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

I'm sure that this is just to pacify the masses who are most upset about the shooting, so that the aministration can look like it's doing something, without actually doing something. And without pissing off most gun owners.

I'm sure that Obama would rather be deaing with that other fun situation, you know, the debt ceiling and sequester.

nocoolnamejim

[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]Seems pretty fair, just don't mess w/ my 2nd amendment because of 2 psycho douchebags that had to shoot up places last year. I have a better chance of getting killed by so many other things, god damn fear culture!-RocBoys9489-

2? In what country?

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]Honestly, if Obama were smart, he would propose legislation where it makes it illegal for the media to say the name/show pics of whoever committed the shootings. JML897

And infringe on their first amendment rights? You're all about the second amendment but not the first one huh?

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Republicans have consistently painted Presidential Executive orders as tyrannical laws outside the bounds of Congress but in reality he can only pass directives into how the federal agencies operate. i.e. Obama could re-schedule Marijuana on the FDA scale or not fund prosecutions in federal court but he can't legalize it.

So today he passed 23 Executive orders on gun control that Conservative opponents of Obama have called him a dictator, a tyrant, imperial, for proposing executive actions he believes would help prevent gun violence. But all these "orders" hardly change anything monumental on Guns and really affect the bureaucracy side of background checks.

While I'm personally against gun control at a federal level immediately after a tragedy, a lot of these executive orders are just plain common sense. Unfortunately they don't seem to do a whole lot in preventing gun tragedies but they're certainly not the tyrannical crusade that republicans are painting.

Here's a quick summary of them, Actual orders can be read: here.

1. Make federal info easier to obtain for background checks
2. Address Health insurance data that prevents info from being available in background checks
3. Give incentives for states that share background info
4. Direct Attorney General to double check individuals that are banned from owning guns.
5. "Propose" a law for cops to run background checks on people returning guns.
6. Publish an ATF letter for how to run background checks.
7. Launch a responsible gun ownership Campaign
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and safes.
9. Require Federal law enforcement (FBI, CIA, etc) to trace guns recovered.
10. Require Release of DOJ reports on lost/stolen guns to law enforcement
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders and school officials with training for gun situations
13. Maximize eforcement efforts to prevent gun violence (pretty vague)
14. Direct CDC on gun research
15. Promote new gun safety technologies and challenge private sector.
16. Clarify that obamacare doesn't prohibit doctors from asking patients about their guns.
17. Clarify that No federal law prevents doctors from reporting violence to law enforcment.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop emergency response plans for schools and churches in shootouts.
20. Clarify mental health services provided under Medicaid.
21. Finalize Obamacare regulations for mental health care services
22. Commit to finalizing mental health care regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

Leejjohno

I don't get it. Those things all seem... positive.

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="JML897"]

2? In what country?

Yusuke420

Leader of the house makes decision, opposition disagrees.

Oh my days!!!

I'm waiting for a GOP member of Congress to get so opposed to gun control that they declare that the Sandy Hook massacre was an Obama conspiracy to get rid of guns, I mean the Operation Fast and Furious lead to the same thing, wouldn't surprise me if it happened again.lamprey263

[QUOTE="lamprey263"]I'm waiting for a GOP member of Congress to get so opposed to gun control that they declare that the Sandy Hook massacre was an Obama conspiracy to get rid of guns, I mean the Operation Fast and Furious lead to the same thing, wouldn't surprise me if it happened again.MrPraline

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="lamprey263"]I'm waiting for a GOP member of Congress to get so opposed to gun control that they declare that the Sandy Hook massacre was an Obama conspiracy to get rid of guns, I mean the Operation Fast and Furious lead to the same thing, wouldn't surprise me if it happened again.-RocBoys9489-

To be honest, one thing that really bothers me about Sandy Hook (and the Sikh Temple thing too) is the reported on second shooter that always seems to disappear from the news after a few hours. Who knows though.MrPraline