Obama Condemns Ukraine Violence, Warns of 'Consequences'.

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#1 Edited by Master_Live (18477 posts) -

Obama administration Hopes Penalties Would Urge Government in Kiev to Stop Deadly Violence

Be careful there big boy, you don't want to draw another red line.

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#2 Posted by Masculus (2878 posts) -

Like he has the balls to do anything... Probably more than the EU though.

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#3 Posted by CrimsonBrute (24825 posts) -

@Master_Live: He won't do a damn thing.

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#4 Posted by deeliman (3666 posts) -

Negotiations to end the violence start tomorrow, so it may not be necessary.

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#5 Posted by lamprey263 (33086 posts) -

Banning visas? Oh please, US couldn't catch a few Serbian war criminals. Plus, it doesn't really matter, because war criminals and organized crime can always immigrate to Britain and claim asylum and Britain will give it to them.

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#6 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -

I am glad I am not the only one that noticed that Obama is a bitch.

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#7 Posted by jimkabrhel (15621 posts) -

We need Donald Rumsfeld to come back and raise some hell. He'd make his bitch GWB do something serious about this.

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#8 Posted by jun_aka_pekto (20636 posts) -

Meh. Let the Ukranians settle it their way.

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#9 Posted by carlandcarl (1251 posts) -

Why does Obama think he has the right to Police Ukraine?

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#10 Edited by deeliman (3666 posts) -

@carlandcarl Maybe because they're firing live ammo at the protesters?

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#11 Edited by caseypayne69 (5393 posts) -

I'm an American and I'm sick of Obama getting involved overseas. Let them solve their own issues.

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#12 Edited by sSubZerOo (46725 posts) -
@Masculus said:

Like he has the balls to do anything... Probably more than the EU though.

The balls? You mean the absolute idiocy of going to war as a first option? Guess we all forgot about the war crimes and stuff that goes down in Africa.. Such as Rwanda during Clinton era, and Darfur during Bush Jr era.. Both things completely ignored more or less by both administrations.. There are bad things happening around the world, and the US (as well as pretty much every country) either condones it or to even supports a certain regime for economic and political gain.. What ever happened to speak softly and carry a big stick? This is no way is in defense of President Obama but specifically in attacking this dumb ass mentality.

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#13 Posted by jimkabrhel (15621 posts) -

In this forum, I've criticism of Obama being a "warlike" President, getting involved in Libya, Syria, and continuing the war in Afghanistan. In this thread, he just a big pussy who won't do anything about Ukraine.

So, "conservatives", which is it? You can't have it both ways.

How easily people forget what subzero mentioned about previous administrations. It's just very easy to criticize the POTUS in power because it's vogue. Except that criticisms usually put out are invalid, and ignore the many valid criticisms that could be leveled against this administration. It's all about talking points, not real analysis of our government.

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#14 Posted by GazaAli (25216 posts) -

Frankly the U.S needs to just stfu altogether. I'm sure the current Ukrainian regime is corrupt and also oppressive to a certain extent. However, it will be proven to be a charm in comparison to whatever other regime that the U.S might help rise to power there, just like what happened in Egypt and Tunisia a couple of years ago.

U.S' foreign policy is the shit. Its only capable of bringing states and nations to their knees, wreaking havoc everywhere and help bring to power the most deranged and demented fucks ever.

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#15 Posted by LJS9502_basic (158187 posts) -

@GazaAli said:

Frankly the U.S needs to just stfu altogether. I'm sure the current Ukrainian regime is corrupt and also oppressive to a certain extent. However, it will be proven to be a charm in comparison to whatever other regime that the U.S might help rise to power there, just like what happened in Egypt and Tunisia a couple of years ago.

U.S' foreign policy is the shit. Its only capable of bringing states and nations to their knees, wreaking havoc everywhere and help bring to power the most deranged and demented fucks ever.

smh

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#16 Posted by Serraph105 (30735 posts) -

Im confused by republicans, they were upset when Obama went into Egypt, they were upset when we didnt go into Korea, and now what theyre upset that Obama might claim a possibility of war without being certain that he will commit to it?

Id say in normal circumstances not going to war would be the prefferable choice, but republicans cant seem to get behind either option.

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#17 Posted by deeliman (3666 posts) -

European Union foreign ministers have agreed to impose sanctions on Ukrainian officials "responsible for violence and excessive force". In a statement, they said targeted sanctions including asset freezes and visa bans would be introduced "as a matter of urgency".

So, will the US follow?

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#18 Posted by Master_Live (18477 posts) -

@deeliman said:

European Union foreign ministers have agreed to impose sanctions on Ukrainian officials "responsible for violence and excessive force". In a statement, they said targeted sanctions including asset freezes and visa bans would be introduced "as a matter of urgency".

So, will the US follow?

Probably.

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#19 Edited by Jacobistheman (3975 posts) -

Are the "Consequences" going to be like the ones for Syria using chemical weapons.

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#20 Posted by wis3boi (32507 posts) -

@GazaAli said:

Frankly the U.S needs to just stfu altogether. I'm sure the current Ukrainian regime is corrupt and also oppressive to a certain extent. However, it will be proven to be a charm in comparison to whatever other regime that the U.S might help rise to power there, just like what happened in Egypt and Tunisia a couple of years ago.

U.S' foreign policy is the shit. Its only capable of bringing states and nations to their knees, wreaking havoc everywhere and help bring to power the most deranged and demented fucks ever.

oy vey

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#21 Posted by Gaming-Planet (17535 posts) -

What does he think this is, a game of Sid Meier's Civilization?

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#22 Posted by plageus900 (2028 posts) -

I think we need to mind our own business for a change. Maybe work on our own country a little bit while we're at it.

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#23 Posted by deeliman (3666 posts) -

@Jacobistheman They will probably be in line with the EU sanctions.

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#24 Posted by brimmul777 (2983 posts) -

@plageus900 said:

I think we need to mind our own business for a change. Maybe work on our own country a little bit while we're at it.

Wise words.But not just the U.S.A.,Canada,Great Britain,France.I think each country should think of whats best for themselves.Work on our own economy,and among other important issues.I'm sorry for all violence and other issues around the world,but if you can't take care of your own backyard,then stay out of everybody elses.

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#25 Edited by Ratchet_Fan8 (5554 posts) -

@Masculus said:

Like he has the balls to do anything... Probably more than the EU though.

EU doesnt give a shit about Ukraine.Nobody likes them

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#26 Posted by vl4d_l3nin (985 posts) -
@GazaAli said:

Frankly the U.S needs to just stfu altogether. I'm sure the current Ukrainian regime is corrupt and also oppressive to a certain extent. However, it will be proven to be a charm in comparison to whatever other regime that the U.S might help rise to power there, just like what happened in Egypt and Tunisia a couple of years ago.

U.S' foreign policy is the shit. Its only capable of bringing states and nations to their knees, wreaking havoc everywhere and help bring to power the most deranged and demented fucks ever.

yup yyup

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#27 Posted by ultimate-k (2348 posts) -

Oh look who's talking.

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#28 Posted by Solaryellow (2740 posts) -

People wonder why the government of the United States is as hated as it is around the world? Our leaders can never mind their own damn business. You can be certain our "leaders" would be extremely offended and irritated if a foreign government attempt to tell our government how to operate and what is and is not off limits.

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#29 Edited by uninspiredcup (20953 posts) -

@GazaAli said:

Frankly the U.S needs to just stfu altogether.

Disagree 100%. Take a look back to Bosnian War. Could have been prevented.

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#30 Posted by Solaryellow (2740 posts) -

It's the job of the United States to stop every wrong happening in the world?

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#31 Posted by Perfect_Blue (28340 posts) -

@Solaryellow said:

People wonder why the government of the United States is as hated as it is around the world? Our leaders can never mind their own damn business. You can be certain our "leaders" would be extremely offended and irritated if a foreign government attempt to tell our government how to operate and what is and is not off limits.

Since 1992 Ukraine has received over $3 billion in aid from the US, so I would say Obama is well within his right to comment on the situation.

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#32 Edited by PonchoTaco (3159 posts) -

I'll believe it when I see it.

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#33 Edited by Solaryellow (2740 posts) -

@Aljosa23 said:

Since 1992 Ukraine has received over $3 billion in aid from the US, so I would say Obama is well within his right to comment on the situation.

Instead of minding their own business, you support the United States constantly meddling in the affairs of others?

Our government has to constantly borrow in order to pay its bills yet we should be giving aid to nations? You are good with that as well? I'm guessing you are not comfortable with the United States getting its house in order instead of acting like the busy-body neighbor interfering in everyone elses business?

Perhaps it is splitting hairs but the number I find is 1.8 billion dollars in aid since 1991.

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#34 Posted by sakaiXx (1113 posts) -

are we going for another war ? man we sure love war :p