'No Time To Die' Trailer 007 is here and it's fantastic!

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Sorry OT, posting videos links is broken, so I'll just post the trailer link: No Time to Die 007 trailer

For better or worst, other Craig Bond film is good. so this should be fantastic but, I have a sneaking suspicion that they might actually kill off “James Bond” in this film!!!

Fun Fact: "No time to die", but "Tomorrow never dies", and you'll just "Die another day" XD

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If half the things I've heard about this movie are even remotely true, then I am truly done with this franchise.

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Like I said, the concept they're going for could be done well, but there are multitude of ways they could do it poorly. I'm intrigued by this just to see how they intend to pull this off.

Otherwise, trailer looks like a Bond film. Finished product could still be Casino Royale - or it could be Quantum of Solace.

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@davillain-: Looks like a 6th Old meme!

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@crimsonbrute said:

If half the things I've heard about this movie are even remotely true, then I am truly done with this franchise.

I'm ready to move on from 007 and stick with Mission Impossible lol.

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I'll have to check it out.

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As I said a couple of months back nothing here is actually new. People reacting on both ends of the spectrum.

We've had other 00 agents before as well as spies of many, many different races along with "strong" female characters charting all the way back to the likes of OHMSS.

Genuinely baffling.

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Regards to the movie, the main problem I see here, and don't really get is carrying over stuff from Spectre, which was an extremely poor movie in my opinion. The best thing they could do is just totally ignore all that shit.

Madeleine Swann and Blofeld were both bad characters. Fine actors, badly written.

James Bond getting some great revelation about himself or his partner has become really redundant in Craig movies by this point. Its getting the Doctor Who problem where the world revolves around him than the character partaking in a larger world.

The trailer kinda screams too-many-cooks-in-kitchen.

The "Bond is getting old" thing was done in Skyfall as well, no need to rehash it.

But yea, definitely watch it with tepid expectations.

Thought Rami Malek was going to be Dr. No, maybe he still is and they've just re-written the character? Who knows.

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I liked Casino Royale. But after that, most of the new bond movies were kind of bleh.

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I didn't watch Spectre. I barely heard anything good about it and wasn't too fond of Skyfall. So I don't know if I should even bother with this movie that seems to so heavily tie into Spectre, featuring same characters.

I'll wait and see before I judge Lashana Lynch as 007. But I don't know why people keep saying that Lynch won't be James Bond, this like it makes any difference. Does it make 'em feel smart or something? There can only be one 007. It doesn't matter if her name is James Bond or Nomi. The studio barely manages one movie every three years. There won't be concurrent 007 movies. James Bond WILL be ousted for a long time.

James Bond should go back to the fifties where he belongs, a time when he's not such a fish out of water.

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I liked all Bond movies except Quantum of Solace, which is one of the most forgettable movies of all time for some reason.

The concept of 007 retiring and doing one last job is a fitting end to Craig's representation of the character. However, I don't like that they're shoving Spectre characters into the new movie. Keep it fresh.

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Imo, Mission Impossible has surpassed James bond in literally every way.

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@ezekiel43 said:

I didn't watch Spectre. I barely heard anything good about it and wasn't too fond of Skyfall. So I don't know if I should even bother with this movie that seems to so heavily tie into Spectre, featuring same characters.

I'll wait and see before I judge Lashana Lynch as 007. But I don't know why people keep saying that Lynch won't be James Bond, this like it makes any difference. Does it make 'em feel smart or something? There can only be one 007. It doesn't matter if her name is James Bond or Nomi. The studio barely manages one movie every three years. There won't be concurrent 007 movies. James Bond WILL be ousted for a long time.

James Bond should go back to the fifties where he belongs, a time when he's not such a fish out of water.

She literally, objectively, won't be James Bond.

Her character is merely another 00 agent while he was in retirement.

Nothing new, at all. There have been multiple 00's including Golden Eye and Skyfall which were both about former (now rogue) 00 agents.

Black and a woman ain't new either, Die Another Day originally (before in reality it turned out to be trash) was suppose to get a Jinx spin-off with Hall Berry and before that with Tomorrow Never Dies with Michelle Yeoh as a Chinese spy.

At most you'll get a spin-off. Replacing Bond even to the most illiterate of business management students would clearly be suicide.

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@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:

I didn't watch Spectre. I barely heard anything good about it and wasn't too fond of Skyfall. So I don't know if I should even bother with this movie that seems to so heavily tie into Spectre, featuring same characters.

I'll wait and see before I judge Lashana Lynch as 007. But I don't know why people keep saying that Lynch won't be James Bond, this like it makes any difference. Does it make 'em feel smart or something? There can only be one 007. It doesn't matter if her name is James Bond or Nomi. The studio barely manages one movie every three years. There won't be concurrent 007 movies. James Bond WILL be ousted for a long time.

James Bond should go back to the fifties where he belongs, a time when he's not such a fish out of water.

She literally, objectively, won't be James Bond.

Her character is merely another 00 agent while he was in retirement.

Nothing new, at all. There have been multiple 00's including Golden Eye and Skyfall which were both about former (now rogue) 00 agents.

Black and a woman ain't new either, Die Another Day originally (before in reality it turned out to be trash) was suppose to get a Jinx spin-off with Hall Berry and before that with Tomorrow Never Dies with Michelle Yeoh as a Chinese spy.

At most you'll get a spin-off. Replacing Bond even to the most illiterate of business management students would clearly be suicide.

I know she won't be James Bond. But she will be 007, at the expense of James Bond. You're kidding yourself if you think they'll make twice the number of 007 movies in the same time.

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@ezekiel43 said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:

I didn't watch Spectre. I barely heard anything good about it and wasn't too fond of Skyfall. So I don't know if I should even bother with this movie that seems to so heavily tie into Spectre, featuring same characters.

I'll wait and see before I judge Lashana Lynch as 007. But I don't know why people keep saying that Lynch won't be James Bond, this like it makes any difference. Does it make 'em feel smart or something? There can only be one 007. It doesn't matter if her name is James Bond or Nomi. The studio barely manages one movie every three years. There won't be concurrent 007 movies. James Bond WILL be ousted for a long time.

James Bond should go back to the fifties where he belongs, a time when he's not such a fish out of water.

She literally, objectively, won't be James Bond.

Her character is merely another 00 agent while he was in retirement.

Nothing new, at all. There have been multiple 00's including Golden Eye and Skyfall which were both about former (now rogue) 00 agents.

Black and a woman ain't new either, Die Another Day originally (before in reality it turned out to be trash) was suppose to get a Jinx spin-off with Hall Berry and before that with Tomorrow Never Dies with Michelle Yeoh as a Chinese spy.

At most you'll get a spin-off. Replacing Bond even to the most illiterate of business management students would clearly be suicide.

I know she won't be James Bond. But she will be 007, at the expense of James Bond. You're kidding yourself if you think they'll make twice the number of 007 movies in the same time.

She's 007 at the start of the movie, he's retired.

Having female side-kicks in the action role is nothing new. People throwing rattles on both side who i'm guessing had little interest in the franchise to begin with.

https://youtu.be/NRMqcxBF4aM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBI44xnQ9oE

https://youtu.be/LyMtP0QjVVA

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Ignoring OHMSS (which was ahead of it's time) maybe in Connery and Moore era we can argue woman were treated like crap, but again, the idea that Bond as a franchise treats woman poorly is mostly a myth.

Once you get up to the Dalton era they are treated with respect and typically have much stronger roles, the most very obvious one being M.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEujAIjTldk

People bringing up "woke" are a good couple of decades too late, wither it be your right-wing nut-jobs or equally wackos over at your PolygonyReseteras screaming garby poo.

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@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:

I didn't watch Spectre. I barely heard anything good about it and wasn't too fond of Skyfall. So I don't know if I should even bother with this movie that seems to so heavily tie into Spectre, featuring same characters.

I'll wait and see before I judge Lashana Lynch as 007. But I don't know why people keep saying that Lynch won't be James Bond, this like it makes any difference. Does it make 'em feel smart or something? There can only be one 007. It doesn't matter if her name is James Bond or Nomi. The studio barely manages one movie every three years. There won't be concurrent 007 movies. James Bond WILL be ousted for a long time.

James Bond should go back to the fifties where he belongs, a time when he's not such a fish out of water.

She literally, objectively, won't be James Bond.

Her character is merely another 00 agent while he was in retirement.

Nothing new, at all. There have been multiple 00's including Golden Eye and Skyfall which were both about former (now rogue) 00 agents.

Black and a woman ain't new either, Die Another Day originally (before in reality it turned out to be trash) was suppose to get a Jinx spin-off with Hall Berry and before that with Tomorrow Never Dies with Michelle Yeoh as a Chinese spy.

At most you'll get a spin-off. Replacing Bond even to the most illiterate of business management students would clearly be suicide.

I know she won't be James Bond. But she will be 007, at the expense of James Bond. You're kidding yourself if you think they'll make twice the number of 007 movies in the same time.

She's 007 at the start of the movie, he's retired.

Having female side-kicks in the action role is nothing new. People throwing rattles on both side who i'm guessing had little interest in the franchise to begin with.

https://youtu.be/NRMqcxBF4aM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBI44xnQ9oE

https://youtu.be/LyMtP0QjVVA

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Ignoring OHMSS (which was ahead of it's time) maybe in Connery and Moore era we can argue woman were treated like crap, but again, the idea that Bond as a franchise treats woman poorly is mostly a myth.

Once you get up to the Dalton era they are treated with respect and typically have much stronger roles, the most very obvious one being M.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEujAIjTldk

People bringing up "woke" are a good couple of decades too late, wither it be your right-wing nut-jobs or equally wackos over at your PolygonyReseteras screaming garby poo.

This feels so random and irrelevant. I have no idea where this tangent is coming from. It's like you took what I said and went in a completely different direction.

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@ezekiel43 said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:

I didn't watch Spectre. I barely heard anything good about it and wasn't too fond of Skyfall. So I don't know if I should even bother with this movie that seems to so heavily tie into Spectre, featuring same characters.

I'll wait and see before I judge Lashana Lynch as 007. But I don't know why people keep saying that Lynch won't be James Bond, this like it makes any difference. Does it make 'em feel smart or something? There can only be one 007. It doesn't matter if her name is James Bond or Nomi. The studio barely manages one movie every three years. There won't be concurrent 007 movies. James Bond WILL be ousted for a long time.

James Bond should go back to the fifties where he belongs, a time when he's not such a fish out of water.

She literally, objectively, won't be James Bond.

Her character is merely another 00 agent while he was in retirement.

Nothing new, at all. There have been multiple 00's including Golden Eye and Skyfall which were both about former (now rogue) 00 agents.

Black and a woman ain't new either, Die Another Day originally (before in reality it turned out to be trash) was suppose to get a Jinx spin-off with Hall Berry and before that with Tomorrow Never Dies with Michelle Yeoh as a Chinese spy.

At most you'll get a spin-off. Replacing Bond even to the most illiterate of business management students would clearly be suicide.

I know she won't be James Bond. But she will be 007, at the expense of James Bond. You're kidding yourself if you think they'll make twice the number of 007 movies in the same time.

She's 007 at the start of the movie, he's retired.

Having female side-kicks in the action role is nothing new. People throwing rattles on both side who i'm guessing had little interest in the franchise to begin with.

https://youtu.be/NRMqcxBF4aM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBI44xnQ9oE

https://youtu.be/LyMtP0QjVVA

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Ignoring OHMSS (which was ahead of it's time) maybe in Connery and Moore era we can argue woman were treated like crap, but again, the idea that Bond as a franchise treats woman poorly is mostly a myth.

Once you get up to the Dalton era they are treated with respect and typically have much stronger roles, the most very obvious one being M.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEujAIjTldk

People bringing up "woke" are a good couple of decades too late, wither it be your right-wing nut-jobs or equally wackos over at your PolygonyReseteras screaming garby poo.

This feels so random and irrelevant. I have no idea where this tangent is coming from.

Not really sure why that confuses you, it directly pertains to your comments.

Can reiterate once again in a simple statement "nothing here is new the movies have been doing this for decades".

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#17  Edited By deactivated-60113e7859d7d
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@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:

I know she won't be James Bond. But she will be 007, at the expense of James Bond. You're kidding yourself if you think they'll make twice the number of 007 movies in the same time.

She's 007 at the start of the movie, he's retired.

Having female side-kicks in the action role is nothing new. People throwing rattles on both side who i'm guessing had little interest in the franchise to begin with.

https://youtu.be/NRMqcxBF4aM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBI44xnQ9oE

https://youtu.be/LyMtP0QjVVA

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Ignoring OHMSS (which was ahead of it's time) maybe in Connery and Moore era we can argue woman were treated like crap, but again, the idea that Bond as a franchise treats woman poorly is mostly a myth.

Once you get up to the Dalton era they are treated with respect and typically have much stronger roles, the most very obvious one being M.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEujAIjTldk

People bringing up "woke" are a good couple of decades too late, wither it be your right-wing nut-jobs or equally wackos over at your PolygonyReseteras screaming garby poo.

This feels so random and irrelevant. I have no idea where this tangent is coming from.

Not really sure why that confuses you, it directly pertains to your comments.

Can reiterate once again in a simple statement "nothing here is new the movies have been doing this for decades".

No, they haven't. James Bond has never been removed. And he WILL be removed. Put away until her run is over. Again, they will NOT be making concurrent 007 movies. I'd be surprised if James Bond made a return right after her. I can just see the social media outrage that would come from her being replaced by a man.

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By the way, the concept of someone running around in $3,000 designer suits, supposedly blending in, in the twenty-first century, is really dumb. They were smart enough to give him ordinary wear in Casino Royale. Just more reason to take him back to the fifties. Suits were more common then.

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@ezekiel43 said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:
@uninspiredcup said:

She's 007 at the start of the movie, he's retired.

Having female side-kicks in the action role is nothing new. People throwing rattles on both side who i'm guessing had little interest in the franchise to begin with.

https://youtu.be/NRMqcxBF4aM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBI44xnQ9oE

https://youtu.be/LyMtP0QjVVA

-

Ignoring OHMSS (which was ahead of it's time) maybe in Connery and Moore era we can argue woman were treated like crap, but again, the idea that Bond as a franchise treats woman poorly is mostly a myth.

Once you get up to the Dalton era they are treated with respect and typically have much stronger roles, the most very obvious one being M.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEujAIjTldk

People bringing up "woke" are a good couple of decades too late, wither it be your right-wing nut-jobs or equally wackos over at your PolygonyReseteras screaming garby poo.

This feels so random and irrelevant. I have no idea where this tangent is coming from.

Not really sure why that confuses you, it directly pertains to your comments.

Can reiterate once again in a simple statement "nothing here is new the movies have been doing this for decades".

No, they haven't. James Bond has never been removed. And he WILL be removed. Put away until her run is over. Again, they will NOT be making concurrent 007 movies. I'd be surprised if James Bond made a return right after her. I can just see the social media outrage that would come from her being replaced by a man.

Bond won't be removed and she won't take up any-more screen-time in this movie than a typical fem character.

If somehow in the unlikely case you are right, it will be nothing but a fad that will fizzle out fast. Might get attention as a curio thanks to outrage culture we now inhabit, for a short burst, but that's it.

Massive over-reaction.

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By the way, the concept of someone running around in $3,000 designer suits, supposedly blending in, in the twenty-first century, is really dumb. They were smart enough to give him ordinary wear in Casino Royale. Just more reason to take him back to the fifties. Suits were more common then.

It's James Bond. The entire series is fantastical and dumb, it's part of the appeal. Exotic locations, beautiful woman, massively over the top super-villains, expensive cars, weird and creative gadgets, spectacular action sequences, memorable soundtracks.

Part of the problem Craig movies have had, Casino Royal, while a good movie, is a bad Bond movie, likewise with Quantum of Solace.

Skyfall and Spectre (which isn't good) are the only Craig movies that feel closer to a Bond movie than something like the Bourne movies.

From this trailer we can see the typical super-villain with a gimmick, a car shooting out machine-guns and some pretty rad looking stunt work.

The problem with that movie (as mentioned above) isn't "oh noes Bond lady", but the fact instead of being a stand-alone thing, they are basically making it episodic carrying over all the junk from the other movies, and Spectre wasn't a good movie.

Very rarely has that worked well The only two aspects being Spectre during the Connery movies, Bonds wife being dead as a small mention carried throughout most of the series and Jaws, brought back for the masterpiece that is Moonraker.

Whatever comes next that's shit they need to drop, I want stand alone adventures, not Eastenders.

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Looks good, but doesn't really look original.

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@uninspiredcup: I'm not overreacting at all. Just saying what's gonna happen. One 007 at a time. Personally, I don't see the point when so much of the appeal of the series was Bond himself.

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@ezekiel43 said:

@uninspiredcup: I'm not overreacting at all. Just saying what's gonna happen. One 007 at a time. Personally, I don't see the point when so much of the appeal of the series was Bond himself.

That's what i'm saying, remove Bond, you got no Bond movie. Bond himself can alternate and evolve era to era, but he is fundamentally a masculine character, replacing him would be franchise suicide.

I don't think they are dumb-enough to do this, and if they do, they will find themselves very quickly backtracking..

From what I read there is no actual confirmation that he is being replaced, alot of it is just blurbs from dumb-ass websites looking to generate clicks. Again, I doubt half of them watch the franchise other than casually.

When they stated "she is the new Bond", she is, in the sense he's retired at the start of the movie and just a 007 replacement.

That's... probably the extent of it. Just another female spy in a long line of female spies that have existed since the 60's.

At the end of the day all I care about if it will be a good movie and I don't think lady 007 (apparently black bond is also a scary wary thought) will be the problem, rather, the white pointless French lady from the last movie and low-tier blofeld coupled with garbled writing brought over from Spectre.

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That Aston Martin V8 Vantage is so attractive, though.

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@ezekiel43 said:

That Aston Martin V8 Vantage is so attractive, though.

It is.

Kinda like when Bond movies use unconventional vehicles rather than the typical multi-million-dollar-sportcar.

Watched Licence To Kill with it's a much slower chase with tank trucks. That shit was awesome.

Compare it to something like Specre it's like watching a very pretty screen-saver, nice too look at but not engaging, could easily put some top gear music over the top it with a sign saying "Come to Rome ", feels more like ad, which it basically is.

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Part of the problem Craig movies have had, Casino Royal, while a good movie, is a bad Bond movie, likewise with Quantum of Solace.

Skyfall and Spectre (which isn't good) are the only Craig movies that feel closer to a Bond movie than something like the Bourne movies.

From this trailer we can see the typical super-villain with a gimmick, a car shooting out machine-guns and some pretty rad looking stunt work.

Casino Royale is a good movie and a great Bond movie. One of the best Bonds of all time, partly because it got rid of all the goofy trash and condensed what's more important in a story with good characterization. Skyfall was a bore, partly because it went back to the same old, and yet, oddly, didn't even feel like a Bond movie towards the end for me, with that Home Alone lameness out in the countryside and The Dark Knight vibe it gave off when M talked to a committee about field agents no longer being effective while the action was interspersed, a scene which reminded me again that they should place it in the '50s. I remember being especially bored in the first half.

Mainly, the series needs better writers. Robert Wade and Neil Purvis should have been fired after Die Another Die, but are still employed for some confounding reason. They did Casino Royale, but the direction for that was steered by the producers and they didn't come up with the story. They must be fired.

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#27  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Judging an awful lot from very little.

I mean that scene with Lashana Lynch is about 5 seconds from a full-scene chopped.

Kinda contradicts himself as well praising Casino Royal for not being Bond, then going on to complain this isn't Bond, while complaining it's playing it safe. What the hell does this guy want?

Complains Bond would never get married (which is what Ian Fleming himself wrote) but he attempts to settle down in Casino Royal and Vesper has very similar conversations as Lashana Lynch just displayed, just in full context.

Telly Savalas worst Blofeld? Get outta here with that shit.

Only thing really agreed on was Madeleine Swann sucking ass and Craig looking miserable all the time.

Seems more like he's just wants to have a whine about progressive politics.

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It's an amazing trailer

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#29 DavisMauney
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Nice trailer. I found No time to Die James bond suits, willing to get soon.