New form of dogfighting: trunking

GOULDS, Fla. -

Miami-Dade County Animal Services rescued a group of dogs believed to be used for trunking.

A Good Samaritan called animal services Wednesday, saying a pet owner in the Goulds repetitively threw dogs in a trunk and let them fight to the death.

"[They] put the dogs in the trunk, lock it up, and they run around, put the music on very, very loud so no one can hear it," said Dahlia Canes with Miami Coalition Against Breed Specific Legislation. "After 10 or 15 minutes, they stop. The dead dog they throw out and the winner keeps going with it."

When authorities responded, they found five adult dogs and four puppies in crates.

"The kennels did not have any water, food, or adequate shelter," said Luis Salgado with Miami-Dade County Animal Services. "They were in feces and urine so the conditions were pretty bad."

Many were covered in scars and open wounds. One of the dogs had teeth marks on his face.

"There are puncture wounds," said Salgado. "One of the dogs had a broken wrist, an injured eye. One of the dogs is just bit up all over the place and [has] open wounds on his face."

Authorities didn't find the pet owner. The animals were friendly with the veterinarians.

"Usually, dogs that are used for fighting are very loving of their owner. They actually fight to please the owner," said Salgado.

"They deserve better," said Canes.

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stop the planet i want to get off

I don't like it, but I don't necessarily see it as something too bad. I do wish people didn't do this.

I mean Spain and Mexico still bull fight, and Puerto Rico still does cock fights.

I used to have a retired fight dog, he was a red nose pit bull. I love those dogs.

I love how they can get super muscular given training; I had mine looking like he was on the juice. 

Man, the comment sections...so racist...

If the dogs did not want to kill each other then they would not.Laihendi

I think somebody should lock you in a trunk with some feral dogs.

Do you always have to act like such a sh*tty human being?

I don't like it, but I don't necessarily see it as something too bad. I do wish people didn't do this.

I mean Spain and Mexico still bull fight, and Puerto Rico still does cock fights.

Fightingfan

You are forcing an animal into a situation where it experiences enormous amounts of pain. How would you like to be locked up in a car trunk with feral dogs? Not too much, I would imagine.

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

I don't like it, but I don't necessarily see it as something too bad. I do wish people didn't do this.

I mean Spain and Mexico still bull fight, and Puerto Rico still does cock fights.

airshocker

You are forcing an animal into a situation where it experiences enormous amounts of pain. How would you like to be locked up in a car trunk with feral dogs? Not too much, I would imagine.

People kill animals for food. How would you feel if I feed you until you got fat and then killed you for food? You can't compare a human to an animal; society doesn't think that way. Fightingfan

People do not put animals in trunks and force them to fight each other in order to harvest that food. There is a difference between using an animal for food and killing it in the least painful way, as opposed to using an animal in a blood sport. You're a fvcking idiot if you can't see that.

Honestly, if it came right down to it, I would rather save my dog than some of you people. That's how much I value animals more than humans.

If the dogs did not want to kill each other then they would not.Laihendi

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]People kill animals for food. How would you feel if I feed you until you got fat and then killed you for food? You can't compare a human to an animal; society doesn't think that way. airshocker

People do not put animals in trunks and force them to fight each other in order to harvest that food. There is a difference between using an animal for food, as opposed to using an animal in a blood sport. You're a fvcking idiot if you can't see that.

Honestly, if it came right down to it, I would rather save my dog than some of you.

If the dogs did not want to kill each other then they would not.Laihendi

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]People kill animals for food. How would you feel if I feed you until you got fat and then killed you for food? You can't compare a human to an animal; society doesn't think that way. airshocker

People do not put animals in trunks and force them to fight each other in order to harvest that food. There is a difference between using an animal for food, as opposed to using an animal in a blood sport. You're a fvcking idiot if you can't see that.

Honestly, if it came right down to it, I would rather save my dog than some of you.

I see no difference in hunting for sport and doing this - regardless you're killing an animal for the sake of entertainment.

Your culture simply views this as bad; go tell a European to go get a circumcision and they'll think you're insane, but Americans cut off the penises of little boys, which is extremely painful for nothing other than "Oh we think it looks better".

*You've also never seen how they handle animals in a slaughter house; there's nothing humane about it. 

I've heard slaughter houses can be pretty brutal though can't they ?dkdk999

Of course there are going to be some slaughter houses that don't follow FDA guidelines.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]If the dogs did not want to kill each other then they would not.airshocker

I think somebody should lock you in a trunk with some feral dogs.

Do you always have to act like such a sh*tty human being?

You do realize in animal blood sports like Cock fighting and bull fighting the animal is eaten, right? It's not simply wasted.

I see no difference in hunting for sport and doing this - regardless you're killing an animal for the sake of entertainment.

Your culture simply views this as bad; go tell a European to go get a circumcision and they'll think you're insane, but Americans cut off the penises of little boys, which is extremely painful for nothing other than "Oh we think it looks better".

Fightingfan

Using an animal that doesn't know any better, for a sport that can hurt them, is barbaric. It's senseless, and it's cruel.

Who is talking about hunting for sport? Not me.

My culture is apparently far more normal than yours. And circumcision doesn't cut off the penis It cuts foreskin off. You really don't know what you're talking about.

That is hilarious. You accuse others of being shitty human beings and yet you are the one who wants others to be viciously killed by wild animals. You clearly have psychological problems.Laihendi

No, I accuse the people who come off as heartless as being shitty human beings.

The only person in this thread that has a psychological problem is you, Laihendi. Of your own admission and of my witnessing first-hand.

The world would definitely be a better place without you. You're worse than kuraimen. So much worse.

[QUOTE="dkdk999"]I've heard slaughter houses can be pretty brutal though can't they ?airshocker

Of course there are going to be some slaughter houses that don't follow FDA guidelines.

:lol: So dogfighting is bad, but slaughtering animals is fine as long as the FDA guidelines are followed. I wonder how much the animals appreciate being slaughtered according to FDA guidelines.Laihendi

Are you suggesting that putting down an animal painlessly is the same as forcing an animal to fight for its life?

Thank you for proving my earlier point: You truly do have mental issues.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]That is hilarious. You accuse others of being shitty human beings and yet you are the one who wants others to be viciously killed by wild animals. You clearly have psychological problems.airshocker

No, I accuse the people who come off as heartless as being shitty human beings.

The only person in this thread that has a psychological problem is you, Laihendi. Of your own admission and of my witnessing first-hand.

The world would definitely be a better place without you. You're worse than kuraimen. So much worse.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]:lol: So dogfighting is bad, but slaughtering animals is fine as long as the FDA guidelines are followed. I wonder how much the animals appreciate being slaughtered according to FDA guidelines.airshocker

Are you suggesting that putting down an animal in a painless method is the same as forcing an animal to fight for its life?

Thank you for proving my earlier point.

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

You do realize in animal blood sports like Cock fighting and bull fighting the animal is eaten, right? It's not simply wasted.

I see no difference in hunting for sport and doing this - regardless you're killing an animal for the sake of entertainment.

Your culture simply views this as bad; go tell a European to go get a circumcision and they'll think you're insane, but Americans cut off the penises of little boys, which is extremely painful for nothing other than "Oh we think it looks better".

airshocker

Using an animal that doesn't know any better, for a sport that can hurt them, is barbaric. It's senseless, and it's cruel.

Who is talking about hunting for sport? Not me.

My culture is apparently far more normal than yours. And circumcision doesn't cut off the penis It cuts foreskin off. You really don't know what you're talking about.

I'm just saying I don't necessarily see this as being such a horrible thing, but I wouldn't engage in it.

Also nice racial claim by stating "Apparently my culture is far more normal than yours/Barbaric". You would fit in right with the Apartheid government if it still existed.

So when I do not care about savage dogs killing each other I am heartless, but when you want actual humans to be violently killed by wild animals you are a psychologically/emotionally healthy person. Do you really believe that?Laihendi

The article didn't say they were savage. They said they were dogs locked in a trunk. Yes, that makes you heartless.

You're not a human. You have to actually have a conscience for me to consider you to be part of my species.

You're an anomaly. A gross-bastardization of a normal human being. You know it, and the rest of this forum knows it.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]:lol: So dogfighting is bad, but slaughtering animals is fine as long as the FDA guidelines are followed. I wonder how much the animals appreciate being slaughtered according to FDA guidelines.airshocker

Are you suggesting that putting down an animal painlessly is the same as forcing an animal to fight for its life?

Thank you for proving my earlier point: You truly do have mental issues.

Oh I agree with you it's "cruel", but I'm not gonna go to Puerto Rico, Spain, and Latin America and use cultural imperialism to tell them "oh that's mean".

I'm just saying I don't necessarily see this as being such a horrible thing, but I wouldn't engage in it.

Also nice racial claim by stating "Apparently my culture is far more normal than yours/Barbaric". You would fit in right with the Apartheid government if it still existed.

Fightingfan

No one is going to use "cultural imperialism" to do anything, you twit. Are you really so stupid as to think I'm advocating for war against countries that abuse animals?

How the fvck can you see it as being cruel and then say "it's not such a horrible thing"? You make no sense.

You're proving my statement with every post you make. That doesn't make me a racist.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]So when I do not care about savage dogs killing each other I am heartless, but when you want actual humans to be violently killed by wild animals you are a psychologically/emotionally healthy person. Do you really believe that?airshocker

The article didn't say they were savage. They said they were dogs locked in a trunk. Yes, that makes you heartless.

You're not a human. You have to actually have a conscience for me to consider you to be part of my species.

You're an anomaly. A gross-bastardization of a normal human being. You know it, and the rest of this forum knows it.

Have you seen how we treat chickens in America? We beat, kick, throw the shit out of them before they enter a slaughter house. Butter ball Turkey is always getting caught. Fightingfan

Refer to an earlier response to dkdk.

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]:lol: So dogfighting is bad, but slaughtering animals is fine as long as the FDA guidelines are followed. I wonder how much the animals appreciate being slaughtered according to FDA guidelines.Laihendi

Are you suggesting that putting down an animal in a painless method is the same as forcing an animal to fight for its life?

Thank you for proving my earlier point.

What does it matter what an article says? Maybe instead of thinking what an article tells you to think you should try applying critical thinking to your ideas/opinions. If a dog will try to kill another dog just because it is nearby, then it is a savage. If two humans tried to kill each other instinctively just because they were put in a room together, then they would be rightfully condemned as moronic savages. The same judgement applies to dogs or any other creature.Laihendi

Because until it's proven that these dogs were savage, making any such claim is a falsehood. Animals respond to pain by fighting back. It's called instincts. That doesn't make them savage.

Comparing human instincts to that of a dog is an egregious mistake. Something you would know with even a rudimentary education.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]:lol: So dogfighting is bad, but slaughtering animals is fine as long as the FDA guidelines are followed. I wonder how much the animals appreciate being slaughtered according to FDA guidelines.airshocker

Are you suggesting that putting down an animal painlessly is the same as forcing an animal to fight for its life?

Thank you for proving my earlier point: You truly do have mental issues.

How the fvck can you see it as being cruel and then say "it's not such a horrible thing"? You make no sense..airshocker

When in Rome do has the Romans do.

It wouldn't bother me to watching a bull fight in Spain, but if in America and I saw that happening of course I would call the police.

I guess I don't necessary judge cultures based on my own . I don't know any culture that promotes dog fighting, but if we're talking about blood sports I don't seem them as that bad. There's a difference between putting two humans in the ring to fight to the death, and two animals - at least for me.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]What does it matter what an article says? Maybe instead of thinking what an article tells you to think you should try applying critical thinking to your ideas/opinions. If a dog will try to kill another dog just because it is nearby, then it is a savage. If two humans tried to kill each other instinctively just because they were put in a room together, then they would be rightfully condemned as moronic savages. The same judgement applies to dogs or any other creature.airshocker

Because until it's proven that these dogs were savage, making any such claim is a falsehood. Animals respond to pain by fighting back. It's called instincts. That doesn't make them savage.

Comparing human instincts to that of a dog is an egregious mistake. Something you would know with even a rudimentary education.

1. I am a vegetarian because, unlike you, I am actually bothered by the fact that animals are raised for the sole purpose of being slaughtered. 2. Regardless of what methods you use to kill an animals, you still kill it. To act as if you are some sensitive animal lover just because you want them to be killed gently is absurd. And the notion that any animals are slaughtered painlessly is absurd as well. Do you think the FDA requires that animals be injected with painkillers before they are slaughtered? You are being incredibly ignorant.Laihendi

They are raised for the purpose of consumption, moron. Slaughtering is what happens before their meat can be sold.

You do not need painkillers to be killed painlessly. Again, you're a moron. I'm sorry, I simply don't have the time to list the ways something can be killed without pain. I have to go to work and escape this stupidity.

What the f*ck Also I'm surprised anyway still takes Laihendi seriously. You all should know better.chessmaster1989

Seriously. Fvcking kill me, please.

I used to have a retired fight dog, he was a red nose pit bull. I love those dogs.

I love how they can get super muscular given training; I had mine looking like he was on the juice. 

Fightingfan

I hope the air force doesn't enforce the use of name calling when dissing things. Fightingfan

We call stupid people stupid in the military. We don't sugarcoat anything.

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

I used to have a retired fight dog, he was a red nose pit bull. I love those dogs.

I love how they can get super muscular given training; I had mine looking like he was on the juice. 

BossPerson

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]I hope the air force doesn't enforce the use of name calling when dissing things. airshocker

We call stupid people stupid in the military. We don't sugarcoat anything.

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]:lol: So dogfighting is bad, but slaughtering animals is fine as long as the FDA guidelines are followed. I wonder how much the animals appreciate being slaughtered according to FDA guidelines.Laihendi

Are you suggesting that putting down an animal in a painless method is the same as forcing an animal to fight for its life?

Thank you for proving my earlier point.

you do know thats not all they do to get dogs to fight right? Most dogs don't fight like that just because they were locked in a trunk or forced into a ring. These dogs are starved and conditioned(often tortured) to fight. These dogs basically are fighting to survive. Dogs dont just natrually try to kill each other on sight. Sure in the wild they would probably fight over food and territory just like us by the way but this isn't natrual behavior for them. So yes they are being forced to fight.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]1. I am a vegetarian because, unlike you, I am actually bothered by the fact that animals are raised for the sole purpose of being slaughtered. 2. Regardless of what methods you use to kill an animals, you still kill it. To act as if you are some sensitive animal lover just because you want them to be killed gently is absurd. And the notion that any animals are slaughtered painlessly is absurd as well. Do you think the FDA requires that animals be injected with painkillers before they are slaughtered? You are being incredibly ignorant.airshocker

They are raised for the purpose of consumption, moron. Slaughtering is what happens before their meat can be sold.

You do not need painkillers to be killed painlessly. Again, you're a moron. I'm sorry, I simply don't have the time to list the ways something can be killed without pain. I have to go to work and escape this stupidity.

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]People kill animals for food. How would you feel if I feed you until you got fat and then killed you for food? You can't compare a human to an animal; society doesn't think that way. airshocker

People do not put animals in trunks and force them to fight each other in order to harvest that food. There is a difference between using an animal for food and killing it in the least painful way, as opposed to using an animal in a blood sport. You're a fvcking idiot if you can't see that.

Honestly, if it came right down to it, I would rather save my dog than some of you people. That's how much I value animals more than humans.

It's a tad strange to see myself completely agreeing with Air:P, but I think everything you said is right:.  I don't see how anyone can condone dogfighting.  As for the comments like Lai saying the dogs wouldn't fight if they didn't want to...well if they hadn't been bred to fight by humans, raised in a specific way so that they would be a fighter such as with injections, supplements, intensive training and abuse then they wouldn't be fighting.  Anyone who knows anything about dogfighting knows that every move and decision handlers make is to try to make their dogs bigger, stronger, more aggressive, and often in more pain so that they'll feel like they have to fight for survival.

I could stick my dogs in a trunk, one of them's a Rottweiler, and I know for a fact they wouldn't go at each other.  They'd probably just be confused.  

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]1. I am a vegetarian because, unlike you, I am actually bothered by the fact that animals are raised for the sole purpose of being slaughtered. 2. Regardless of what methods you use to kill an animals, you still kill it. To act as if you are some sensitive animal lover just because you want them to be killed gently is absurd. And the notion that any animals are slaughtered painlessly is absurd as well. Do you think the FDA requires that animals be injected with painkillers before they are slaughtered? You are being incredibly ignorant.Laihendi

They are raised for the purpose of consumption, moron. Slaughtering is what happens before their meat can be sold.

You do not need painkillers to be killed painlessly. Again, you're a moron. I'm sorry, I simply don't have the time to list the ways something can be killed without pain. I have to go to work and escape this stupidity.