Neo Atheist Sues School Over Evan Almighty

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#1 Theokhoth
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Dumbass.

And the idiot refers to Separation of Church and State, or as he calls it, "freedom from religion," a fundamental human right. *Headdesk*

It's sad that his children have to put up with such crap.

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I suspect the bigger issue was the first one mentioned in the headline of the story: "A Queensland father of five has taken action in the Anti-Discrimination Commission after his four-year-old daughter was asked to help make a replica of Noah's Ark at the local state school."
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Hmm, the article doesn't say much about the circumstances of the childrens' exposure. If it had nothing to do with the actual story of Noah, and more to do with animals in general then he should consider dropping his case.
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Neo Atheist? Soft/hard/whatever. Being religious or anti-religious is too much work.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Neo Atheist? Soft/hard/whatever. Being religious or anti-religious is too much work.

So apathy and indifference is the way to be? :P
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Neo Atheist? Soft/hard/whatever. Being religious or anti-religious is too much work.Jango-Bawls
So apathy and indifference is the way to be? :P

It's like my life calling.
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#7 Theokhoth
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I suspect the bigger issue was the first one mentioned in the headline of the story: "A Queensland father of five has taken action in the Anti-Discrimination Commission after his four-year-old daughter was asked to help make a replica of Noah's Ark at the local state school."xaos

Did you read the article, or just that first issue?

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Neo Atheist? Soft/hard/whatever. Being religious or anti-religious is too much work.Jandurin
A lot of the time I find that it's too much work not being anti- things. I certainly find it much easier to hate humanity than to not hate it. >_>
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#9 LittleHands134
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It's obvious it has nothing to do with him actually being offended, he just saw a good chance to act offended and start suing people for easy cash.
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It's obvious it has nothing to do with him actually being offended, he just saw a good chance to act offended and start suing people for easy cash.LittleHands134
Prove it.
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#11 Maverick_Chaos1
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Dumbass.

And the idiot refers to Separation of Church and State, or as he calls it, "freedom from religion," a fundamental human right. *Headdesk*

It's sad that his children have to put up with such crap.

Theokhoth
The separation of Church and State is a good thing, it would prevent religion being used as an excuse for unjust wars and tighter government controls over its people. You know, like what has happened in the past few years in the U.S.
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[QUOTE="LittleHands134"]It's obvious it has nothing to do with him actually being offended, he just saw a good chance to act offended and start suing people for easy cash.Funky_Llama
Prove it.

That's the point, it's impossible to prove it. I would have done the same thing though, easy cash is easy cash.
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It's obvious it has nothing to do with him actually being offended, he just saw a good chance to act offended and start suing people for easy cash.LittleHands134
Even if he was offended I think the money is the bigger interest.
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Neo-Atheist? Like a new atheist? It's pretty ridiculous though, one of the reasons polictical correctness is no. 1 on my most hated things.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Neo Atheist? Soft/hard/whatever. Being religious or anti-religious is too much work.Funky_Llama
A lot of the time I find that it's too much work not being anti- things. I certainly find it much easier to hate humanity than to not hate it. >_>

I'm just blessed with a higher state of inertia. :o
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#16 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Dumbass.

And the idiot refers to Separation of Church and State, or as he calls it, "freedom from religion," a fundamental human right. *Headdesk*

It's sad that his children have to put up with such crap.

Maverick_Chaos1

The separation of Church and State is a good thing, it would prevent religion being used as an excuse for unjust wars and tighter government controls over its people. You know, like what has happened in the past few years in the U.S.

I thought terrorists were the excuse. . . .

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Money has most likely nothing to do with this. Judging from the article he's probably one of those hardcore atheists who'll do any thing to prove a point, for better or worse.
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He seems to have a fair ppoint as what happened is against the law there. IMO it's quite a good law though there's no probelm with teaching about religon either, they should get ri of the chaplains though.
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[QUOTE="xaos"]I suspect the bigger issue was the first one mentioned in the headline of the story: "A Queensland father of five has taken action in the Anti-Discrimination Commission after his four-year-old daughter was asked to help make a replica of Noah's Ark at the local state school."Theokhoth

Did you read the article, or just that first issue?

I did, and while it was an overreaction more likely to cause hassles for his kids than anything else in my opinion, I saw no indication that showing "Evan Almighty" was the core of his gripe, but rather part of his overall complaint with the story of Noah's Ark being used as a teaching tool in an ostensibly secular school.
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God, people these days are such whiny ******. :x
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#21 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="xaos"]I suspect the bigger issue was the first one mentioned in the headline of the story: "A Queensland father of five has taken action in the Anti-Discrimination Commission after his four-year-old daughter was asked to help make a replica of Noah's Ark at the local state school."xaos

Did you read the article, or just that first issue?

I did, and while it was an overreaction more likely to cause hassles for his kids than anything else in my opinion, I saw no indication that showing "Evan Almighty" was the core of his gripe, but rather part of his overall complaint with the story of Noah's Ark being used as a teaching tool in an ostensibly secular school.

The school denied ever using Noah's Ark as a teaching tool, saying that they used Evan Almighty (a comedy movie) and a book about animal sounds that has "ark" in the title.

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Someone should make an equally frivolous law suit by saying his law suit has caused irreparable harm to my well being for insulting my religion and he should be charged with a hate crime.

Seriously, get a damn life.

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Money has most likely nothing to do with this. Judging from the article he's probably one of those hardcore atheists who'll do any thing to prove a point, for better or worse.jointed
I don't know, I think money is the major motivation behind everything in the world. I could see him getting upset about it and complaining to the school, but to waste months of his life in court over something as trivial as a toy ark? The only reason for that would be to make money. He'll probably make a good couple hundred thousand off this.
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[QUOTE="markop2003"]He seems to have a fair ppoint as what happened is against the law there. IMO it's quite a good law though there's no probelm with teaching about religon either, they should get ri of the chaplains though.

agreed
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#25 SaintLeonidas
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They used Evan Almighty to teach kids animals noises? That movies sucks , Id be mad if my child saw it also. Id rather my children not be exposed to trash. This kind of stuff happens on both sides of the coin, nothing new. Plus is seems he was most upset of them having to build a replica of the ark.
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Did you read the article, or just that first issue?

Theokhoth

I did, and while it was an overreaction more likely to cause hassles for his kids than anything else in my opinion, I saw no indication that showing "Evan Almighty" was the core of his gripe, but rather part of his overall complaint with the story of Noah's Ark being used as a teaching tool in an ostensibly secular school.

The school denied ever using Noah's Ark as a teaching tool, saying that they used Evan Almighty (a comedy movie) and a book about animal sounds that has "ark" in the title.

And asked his daughter to make a replica of the Ark (as mentioned in the headline and apparently not contested by the school, though the paragraph dealing with that is pretty sloppy and ambiguous as to exactly what was denied). A movie, a book and a crafts project all based on an old testament story are, to me, pretty excessive for a school that has an explicit separation clause governing it. Again, though, I think this guy could stand to think more about his kids well-being than his personal affront at this transgression.
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Meh. Don't really care. Suing is overrated.
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[QUOTE="Jango-Bawls"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]Neo Atheist? Soft/hard/whatever. Being religious or anti-religious is too much work.Jandurin
So apathy and indifference is the way to be? :P

It's like my life calling.

Haha. I struggle to care about these issues anymore. I try to get offended, but it really just doesn't happen.

When I first signed up for GS, I was always getting into the heated debates.. now I just like posting stupid stuff to make people go "WTF?"

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[QUOTE="LittleHands134"]It's obvious it has nothing to do with him actually being offended, he just saw a good chance to act offended and start suing people for easy cash.Funky_Llama
Prove it.

He doesn't need to, it's most likely they wanted money. :|Maybe you don't know what goes around in the world these days.

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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="LittleHands134"]It's obvious it has nothing to do with him actually being offended, he just saw a good chance to act offended and start suing people for easy cash.CBR600-RR

Prove it.

He doesn't need to, it's most likely they wanted money. :|Maybe you don't know what goes around in the world these days.

Yes he does. It's entirely possible that the guy in question genuinely was pissed off. A claim that he was just doing it for money needs proof - which, of course is lacking.
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What's a neo atheist?
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What's a neo atheist?Severed_Hand
It's not really a real word, but Theokoth uses it to describe aggressive atheists.
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What's a neo atheist?Severed_Hand
Duh; it's an atheist with superpowers in the Matrix
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[QUOTE="Severed_Hand"]What's a neo atheist?xaos
Duh; it's an atheist with superpowers in the Matrix

The One Atheist?
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His kids, let him do what he wants, even if it is a little over the top.

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[QUOTE="Maverick_Chaos1"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Dumbass.

And the idiot refers to Separation of Church and State, or as he calls it, "freedom from religion," a fundamental human right. *Headdesk*

It's sad that his children have to put up with such crap.

Theokhoth

The separation of Church and State is a good thing, it would prevent religion being used as an excuse for unjust wars and tighter government controls over its people. You know, like what has happened in the past few years in the U.S.

I thought terrorists were the excuse. . . .

Fool! Don't you realize that Bush, as a dogmatic person who gallingly has both ethics and morality, attacked Iraq and Afganistan, not for the modern pragmatic and materialist necessity of oil, but rather for the absurd religious excuse of justice and protection of the weak from foreign aggression. Hopefully with Obama we can return to the good old Utilitarian days in which we only do what is directly good for us and we can ignore that superficial notion of good and evil.

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[QUOTE="CBR600-RR"]

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Prove it.Funky_Llama

He doesn't need to, it's most likely they wanted money. :|Maybe you don't know what goes around in the world these days.

Yes he does. It's entirely possible that the guy in question genuinely was pissed off. A claim that he was just doing it for money needs proof - which, of course is lacking.

Right I suppose he could be pissed off. There are sooooooo many people that would sue for anything though, just letting you know.

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Maverick_Chaos1"] The separation of Church and State is a good thing, it would prevent religion being used as an excuse for unjust wars and tighter government controls over its people. You know, like what has happened in the past few years in the U.S.GIJames248

I thought terrorists were the excuse. . . .

Fool! Don't you realize that Bush, as a dogmatic person who gallingly has both ethics and morality, attacked Iraq and Afganistan, not for the modern pragmatic and materialist necessity of oil, but rather for the absurd religious excuse of justice and protection of the weak from foreign aggression. Hopefully with Obama we can return to the good old Utilitarian days in which we only do what is directly good for us and we can ignore that superficial notion of good and evil.

I see what you did there! It's not nearly as funny as what you believe though =D
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People need to suck it up and realize that, regardless of your own beliefs, knowledge of the bible and Christianity is required for literacy in Western Culture. I guess if you really can't stand it then you can go ahead and drop the last two thousand years of history, but its absurd to complain about history and social studies just because at one time society was predominantly religious. Why do they think we read Greek mythology? Its certainly not because I have an altar to Zeus in the basement. It's because without the bible and Greek mythology poetry like Paradise Lost is undecipherable.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Neo Atheist? Soft/hard/whatever. Being religious or anti-religious is too much work.Funky_Llama
A lot of the time I find that it's too much work not being anti- things. I certainly find it much easier to hate humanity than to not hate it. >_>

I just can't help it.