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#1  Edited By Master_Live
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Here is the video: Melissa Harris Perry & Panel Mock Mitt Romney's Black Grandson

MSNBC host apologizes for Romney jokes

CNN Host Don Lemon slams MSNBC for Romney joke

Which comes on the heels of this of course:

Martin Bashir quits at MSNBC over Palin slur

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A Romney - West family get together would be epic.

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#3  Edited By Nengo_Flow
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The Romney Family:

White American- Check

A branch of the Family tree lives in Mexico- Check

Token Black kid- Check

Adopted Asian girl- Check

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lol @ MSNBC. Such a joke network.

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#5  Edited By ferrari2001
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Ah MSNBC a network that pretty much no one watches. I'm surprised they got in trouble for that. Did one of their 5 viewers call in an complain?

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#6  Edited By Serraph105
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Yup no defense for that. MSNBC is rather terrible almost without exception.

On a side note does this feel like the exact sort of thing that would be defended if it were to happen on Fox News?

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#7  Edited By LostProphetFLCL
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@Serraph105 said:

On a side note does this feel like the exact sort of thing that would be defended if it were to happen on Fox News?

Knowing the psychoti right-wingers, especially those who lurk on this site, it probably would be defended....

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#8 Master_Live
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@Serraph105 said:

Yup no defense for that. MSNBC is rather terrible almost without exception.

On a side note does this feel like the exact sort of thing that would be defended if it were to happen on Fox News?

To the contrary, if someone at Fox News had done something similar the uproar would be bigger than in this case I believe.

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Yeah... pathetic, but it is MSNBC after all.

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What, did she think it was okay to be a racist **** as long as she was attacking someone conservative?

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Saying they mocked him is a bit overboard IMO...seemed to me to just be a silly joke about how it appears they have a token black grandson. I don't watch MSNBC and don't think a news channel should be making silly observations like that...but anyone truly offended (other than Mitt Romney) over this is a being hyper-sensitive.

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@Renevent42 said:

Saying they mocked him is a bit overboard IMO...seemed to me to just be a silly joke about how it appears they have a token black grandson. I don't watch MSNBC and don't think a news channel should be making silly observations like that...but anyone truly offended (other than Mitt Romney) over this is a being hyper-sensitive.

So basically it's okay to be racist as long as you're attacking someone conservative, correct?

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#14  Edited By Renevent42
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@huggybear1020 said:

@Renevent42 said:

Saying they mocked him is a bit overboard IMO...seemed to me to just be a silly joke about how it appears they have a token black grandson. I don't watch MSNBC and don't think a news channel should be making silly observations like that...but anyone truly offended (other than Mitt Romney) over this is a being hyper-sensitive.

So basically it's okay to be racist as long as you're attacking someone conservative, correct?

I did not imply that at all. I made a distinction between seriously mocking a baby and and making a crass joke about the dynamics of the family as a whole. It wasn't in good taste though, I do agree with that. Kinda like South Park having their Token black character...it's more of a silly joke rather than a serious racist attack. It's crass and probably doesn't belong on a news program, but to be seriously offended by it shows some really thin skin.

Oh, and I don't care about the whole liberal/conservative stuff. I fall somewhere in between and agree with both sides on different issues.

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#15  Edited By comp_atkins
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@Renevent42 said:

Saying they mocked him is a bit overboard IMO...seemed to me to just be a silly joke about how it appears they have a token black grandson. I don't watch MSNBC and don't think a news channel should be making silly observations like that...but anyone truly offended (other than Mitt Romney) over this is a being hyper-sensitive.

news channel?

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#16  Edited By Renevent42
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@comp_atkins said:

@Renevent42 said:

Saying they mocked him is a bit overboard IMO...seemed to me to just be a silly joke about how it appears they have a token black grandson. I don't watch MSNBC and don't think a news channel should be making silly observations like that...but anyone truly offended (other than Mitt Romney) over this is a being hyper-sensitive.

news channel?

Whatever you want to call them...from what I understand MSNBC is a news/political commentary/etc channel.

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Maybe if we get Fox News and MSNBC close enough they'll annhilate each other like matter and antimatter.

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#18  Edited By The-Apostle
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@huggybear1020 said:

What, did she think it was okay to be a racist **** as long as she was attacking someone conservative?

Usually they get away with it. After all, Sharpton and Jesse Jackson still have yet to cry foul. >_>

I don't think they will. Because they're racist themselves... >_>

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Wow how many grandkids does he have?

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Wow how many grandkids does he have?

I don't know, but I bet Obama's glad they're too young to vote!

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@jimkabrhel said:

Maybe if we get Fox News and MSNBC close enough they'll annhilate each other like matter and antimatter.

maybe. I bet if the Fox News hosts/contributors fought in a big brawl with the MSNBC guys the Fox guys would win.

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#22  Edited By deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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The Romney Family:

White American- Check

A branch of the Family tree lives in Mexico- Check

Token Black kid- Check

Adopted Asian girl- Check

What are you even talking about?

Do you have an issue with people adopting children that come from shitty places? Or is it just Romney you have a problem with?

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#23  Edited By dave123321
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yeah if this happened on Fox News OT would be very much silent

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#24 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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@dave123321 said:

yeah if this happened on Fox News OT would be very much silent

That's bullshit and this kind of stuff doesn't happen on Fox News.

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#25 branketra
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That was not okay.

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#26  Edited By HoolaHoopMan
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@jimkabrhel said:

Maybe if we get Fox News and MSNBC close enough they'll annhilate each other like matter and antimatter.

I endorse this experiment.

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#28  Edited By Makhaidos
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Yep, there's really no excuse for them here. Such a Fox News thing to do.

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#29  Edited By Makhaidos
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@airshocker said:

@dave123321 said:

yeah if this happened on Fox News OT would be very much silent

That's bullshit and this kind of stuff doesn't happen on Fox News.

Haha. Hahahahahaha.

No.

Just no.

Don't be dumb.

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#30 Nengo_Flow
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@airshocker said:

@Nengo_Flow said:

The Romney Family:

White American- Check

A branch of the Family tree lives in Mexico- Check

Token Black kid- Check

Adopted Asian girl- Check

What are you even talking about?

Do you have an issue with people adopting children that come from shitty places? Or is it just Romney you have a problem with?

What makes you think I have a problem?

I was a Romney supporter in 2012 bro..

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#31  Edited By dave123321
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@thegerg: msnbc seems to be seen as a joke by the majority here. One of the things that bonds most of OT in fact. More so then Fox News which starts fights rather then a comradery of agreed upon disapproval

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#32  Edited By deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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@Makhaidos said:
@airshocker said:

@dave123321 said:

yeah if this happened on Fox News OT would be very much silent

That's bullshit and this kind of stuff doesn't happen on Fox News.

Haha. Hahahahahaha.

No.

Just no.

Don't be dumb.

1st link: I'm not seeing the racism there.

2nd link: It was a dumb thing to say, for sure, but racist? I don't think so.

3rd link: Ann Coulter isn't a Fox News anchor. And that's a determining factor for me when I decide to criticize either news organization.

So it's more correct to say that this kind of shit seems to happen far less on Fox News than MSNBC.

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@Nengo_Flow said:

@airshocker said:

@Nengo_Flow said:

The Romney Family:

White American- Check

A branch of the Family tree lives in Mexico- Check

Token Black kid- Check

Adopted Asian girl- Check

What are you even talking about?

Do you have an issue with people adopting children that come from shitty places? Or is it just Romney you have a problem with?

What makes you think I have a problem?

I was a Romney supporter in 2012 bro..


You derogatorily referred to a member of the Romney family as a token black kid. So what did you mean to infer by that entire post?

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fox tells people santa and jesus were white, msnbc makes fun of the black child. Media is for revenue, not news. Whatever stirs up the most attention wins, **** everything important

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#35 Nengo_Flow
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@airshocker said:
@Nengo_Flow said:

@airshocker said:

@Nengo_Flow said:

The Romney Family:

White American- Check

A branch of the Family tree lives in Mexico- Check

Token Black kid- Check

Adopted Asian girl- Check

What are you even talking about?

Do you have an issue with people adopting children that come from shitty places? Or is it just Romney you have a problem with?

What makes you think I have a problem?

I was a Romney supporter in 2012 bro..

You derogatorily referred to a member of the Romney family as a token black kid. So what did you mean to infer by that entire post?

lol yeah token black kid.... lol

I just mean he's got it pretty much covered if he wants to look good to the people, by having a diverse family.

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#37  Edited By MrGeezer
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@Nengo_Flow said:

lol yeah token black kid.... lol

I just mean he's got it pretty much covered if he wants to look good to the people, by having a diverse family.

No offense dude, but that's a pretty pessimistic and $hitty way of looking at the world. I mean, maybe the black kid was adopted into the Romney family purely for PR reasons, maybe rich celebrity actors adopt poor African kids purely for PR reasons. Or maybe someone genuinely wanted to try to give the kid a better life. Or maybe it's a mix of the two: "I get good PR and I help a kid to get a better life, so everyone wins on multiple levels."

But dude...who knows? Do you pick apart every seemingly good act the same way? A kid got adopted. Absent clear evidence to the contrary (like, the adoptive parents being child molesters or something), adopting a kid is genuinely seen as a good thing. Why go around looking at such acts as if the people involved have some sinister motive? There's no evidence that being part of the Romney family is going to make this kid's life worse, so why $hit on an apparent good deed with unfounded assumptions? People do this all the time and it f***ing irritates the living $hit out of me, because it's usually a way for people to justify doing nothing of value. And at this point I'm not even referring to you specifically, because I have no idea what your accomplishments or deeds are. But it goes like this...it's a LOT f***ing easier to destroy than it is to create. Meaning and value are defined by comparisons, and it's a LOT f***ing easier to mentally lower that gap by bringing someone else down rather than elevating one's self. I'm not saying that ulterior motives don't exist; many good people have probably been good people in large part because they don't like people thinking that they are assholes. That's self-interest. But a good deed is still a good deed, and the people who try to $hit on the accomplishements and good deeds of others often tend to be the kind of people who haven't done $hit to make the world any better. Like, I'll be the first to criticize Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie for adopting kids once I've seen evidence that they were bad parents or made the kids' lives worse (and for all I know, there may be such evidence). But until then, how many f***ing kids have I adopted? Yeah, NONE. Some kids really do need adopting, some people are out there adopting kids, so what the f*** kind of position am I in to just $hit all over other people for doing what needs to be done and that I'm not willing or able to do myself? Some wealthy philanthropist might donate millions of dollars to a worthy cause just to make himself look good and gain PR and political connections. But by comparison, how much money have I donated to cancer research or funding for the arts or to education? Not f***ing much. Seems like a pretty dickish move to point at the guy who is donating LOTS of money to worthwhile causes and then say, "yeah, but he's only doing it to make himself look good." SO WHAT? Even if that's the case, it's still a worthwhile cause and he's still doing a f***ton more to support it than I am.

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fox tells people santa and jesus were white, msnbc makes fun of the black child. Media is for revenue, not news. Whatever stirs up the most attention wins, **** everything important

MSNBC is pretty much the same as FOX news but on the far left...except people actually watch FOX news

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^ Pretty much what I was trying to get at, though in a far more elaborate way.

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MSNBC is garbage but then again all American "news" channels besides C-SPAN are terrible. I'm not sure if it's as bad as FOX News because at least MSNBC has Rachel Maddow and she's pretty cool.

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MSNBC is garbage but then again all American "news" channels besides C-SPAN are terrible. I'm not sure if it's as bad as FOX News because at least MSNBC has Rachel Maddow and she's pretty cool.

From what i remember, Rachel Maddow is still pretty biased. FOX and MSNBC are both pretty shitty and biased. CNN is just shitty

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This thread is now about the black and asian people in Laketown in The Desolation of Smaug.

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@lostrib said:

@Aljosa23 said:

MSNBC is garbage but then again all American "news" channels besides C-SPAN are terrible. I'm not sure if it's as bad as FOX News because at least MSNBC has Rachel Maddow and she's pretty cool.

From what i remember, Rachel Maddow is still pretty biased. FOX and MSNBC are both pretty shitty and biased. CNN is just shitty

Wow, you mean to tell me a political commentator that hosts an opinion-based show is biased?! Surely you jest!

She still has some compelling things to say. Everyone is biased. *shrugs*

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@Aljosa23 said:

@lostrib said:

@Aljosa23 said:

MSNBC is garbage but then again all American "news" channels besides C-SPAN are terrible. I'm not sure if it's as bad as FOX News because at least MSNBC has Rachel Maddow and she's pretty cool.

From what i remember, Rachel Maddow is still pretty biased. FOX and MSNBC are both pretty shitty and biased. CNN is just shitty

Wow, you mean to tell me a political commentator that hosts an opinion-based show is biased?! Surely you jest!

She still has some compelling things to say. Everyone is biased. *shrugs*

Oh wait that's right. I'd forgotten that MSNBC and FOX both do that thing with the opinion shows.

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@Neoklondiak said:

This thread is now about the black and asian people in Laketown in The Desolation of Smaug.

Do any black people die? if so, then it's racist

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#46  Edited By deactivated-59921cb703b3a
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@lostrib said:

@Aljosa23 said:

@lostrib said:

@Aljosa23 said:

MSNBC is garbage but then again all American "news" channels besides C-SPAN are terrible. I'm not sure if it's as bad as FOX News because at least MSNBC has Rachel Maddow and she's pretty cool.

From what i remember, Rachel Maddow is still pretty biased. FOX and MSNBC are both pretty shitty and biased. CNN is just shitty

Wow, you mean to tell me a political commentator that hosts an opinion-based show is biased?! Surely you jest!

She still has some compelling things to say. Everyone is biased. *shrugs*

Oh wait that's right. I'd forgotten that MSNBC and FOX both do that thing with the opinion shows.

There are limits to how much "oh it's just an opinion" can cover up shit.

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@whipassmt said:

@jimkabrhel said:

Maybe if we get Fox News and MSNBC close enough they'll annhilate each other like matter and antimatter.

maybe. I bet if the Fox News hosts/contributors fought in a big brawl with the MSNBC guys the Fox guys would win.

Probably, since the Fox News people would probably have some guns.

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#48  Edited By MlauTheDaft
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That's not mocking but Fox is definitely a cesspool of insanity.

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They didn't mock the baby, or make fun of the baby at all.

They simply made a rather...distasteful joke, about how the Romney family decided to adopt a token black kid.

Obama got the African American vote, maybe Romney's trying to compete by saying "Hey I've got black family members too", after hurrying to the adoption agency to find a black baby.

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#50 lostrib
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@Nibroc420 said:

They didn't mock the baby, or make fun of the baby at all.

They simply made a rather...distasteful joke, about how the Romney family decided to adopt a token black kid.

Obama got the African American vote, maybe Romney's trying to compete by saying "Hey I've got black family members too", after hurrying to the adoption agency to find a black baby.

which sounds pretty unlikely