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So in the past couple of years, we've seen reboots of critically acclaimed movies that we hold dear, only to be either butchered completely or just being mundane.

However, going back several years, we had Dredd starring Karl Urban and that movie was superior to that of the Stallone's Judge Dredd. Pure action and pure adrenaline. Although my opinion, Dredd was a successful reboot of a movie that had potential.

In your opinion OT, what movie(s) that were critically and/or commercially poor deserve a proper reboot?

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Constantine. The series should have been a premium cable channel series. As a network series it barely stood a chance. The Keanu film was pretty good but Keanu was wrong for the part even though he actually did a pretty good job.

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Dune. Story in the books, characters, setting etc is all top notch. Movie was piss poor.

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Westworld, Soylent Green, Omega Man......a few futuristic movies I remember from the mid 70's

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@AFBrat77: I think they'e turning Westorld into a series for HBO.

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@hillelslovak said:

Dune. Story in the books, characters, setting etc is all top notch. Movie was piss poor.

Good one.

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Westworld, Soylent Green, Omega Man......a few futuristic movies I remember from the mid 70's

As @hallenbeck77 pointed out, Westworld is already in the works. HBO announced it close to a year ago and it's coming in 2017.

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It looks damned good, too. Thankfully a reboot of Westworld proper and not the awful sequel Futureworld.

As for Omega Man, that one's... complicated. Omega Man was already a reboot of the book I Am Legend and it's first film adaptation The Last Man On Earth starring Vincent Price. Omega Man was a pretty big departure from the original source material and pretty much missed the point of the original story, instead opting for a nutso story about albino cult vampires. It was rebooted again with Will Smith in a film bearing the same name as the original book, and while it had more similarities to the original story the ending also completely missed the point. It was then "rebooted" again with an Asylum direct to video "mockbuster" starring Mark Dacascos but that one was such a pile of shit I couldn't get through it, like most films by Asylum.

The film that was the closest to the source material was the first one. The point of the original story was that Robert Neville, who was the last "human" and spent his days wandering around in the sunlight and exterminating every vampire he could find while he searched for a cure, and his nights defending his home from attacking vampires, he eventually discovered that he was the monster. The world had moved on without him, and the vampires were the new social order of human beings. He was the "creature" that stalked them during the daylight (that they feared because it was lethal to them) and that he was killing sentient creatures. The story was never about him finding a cure and turning humanity back the way it was, it was about him realizing that the new world wasn't wrong and that his actions made them a monster (or horrifying "legend") in their eyes so he didn't begrudge them when they eventually hunted down and killed him.

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@hillelslovak said:

Dune. Story in the books, characters, setting etc is all top notch. Movie was piss poor.

Did you see the miniseries that was made a few years ago for ScyFy (then SciFi)? It was better than the movie (with Sting...WTF were they thinking), but still not good enough.

But yeah totally agree with Dune being a viable story to tell (again, and correctly).

Ummmm outside of that, I personally would love to see a lot of those classic WWII films rebooted. A reboot of Tora Tora Tora would be great, as would a Dirty Dozen reboot. OOoooooooh or Kelly's Heroes!

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They should reboot Predator movies. Great potentials in that character.

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@Byshop said:
@hillelslovak said:

Dune. Story in the books, characters, setting etc is all top notch. Movie was piss poor.

Good one.

@AFBrat77 said:

Westworld, Soylent Green, Omega Man......a few futuristic movies I remember from the mid 70's

As @hallenbeck77 pointed out, Westworld is already in the works. HBO announced it close to a year ago and it's coming in 2017.

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It looks damned good, too. Thankfully a reboot of Westworld proper and not the awful sequel Futureworld.

As for Omega Man, that one's... complicated. Omega Man was already a reboot of the book I Am Legend and it's first film adaptation The Last Man On Earth starring Vincent Price. Omega Man was a pretty big departure from the original source material and pretty much missed the point of the original story, instead opting for a nutso story about albino cult vampires. It was rebooted again with Will Smith in a film bearing the same name as the original book, and while it had more similarities to the original story the ending also completely missed the point. It was then "rebooted" again with an Asylum direct to video "mockbuster" starring Mark Dacascos but that one was such a pile of shit I couldn't get through it, like most films by Asylum.

The film that was the closest to the source material was the first one. The point of the original story was that Robert Neville, who was the last "human" and spent his days wandering around in the sunlight and exterminating every vampire he could find while he searched for a cure, and his nights defending his home from attacking vampires, he eventually discovered that he was the monster. The world had moved on without him, and the vampires were the new social order of human beings. He was the "creature" that stalked them during the daylight (that they feared because it was lethal to them) and that he was killing sentient creatures. The story was never about him finding a cure and turning humanity back the way it was, it was about him realizing that the new world wasn't wrong and that his actions made them a monster (or horrifying "legend") in their eyes so he didn't begrudge them when they eventually hunted down and killed him.

-Byshop

I thought I Am Legend was a pretty good movie, but the Omega Man I read in highschool would have been much better IMO.

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@hillelslovak said:

Dune. Story in the books, characters, setting etc is all top notch. Movie was piss poor.

This 100 percent. I also vote for a Fantastic Four done actually right.

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terminator series in the same vain as the new planet of apes trilogy.

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@n64dd said:
@hillelslovak said:

Dune. Story in the books, characters, setting etc is all top notch. Movie was piss poor.

This 100 percent. I also vote for a Fantastic Four done actually right.

It would have to be a wacky, goofy movie. F4 is one of the more comic book comics. I think the problem with the movies on it has been the fact that the people who make the movies try to make them way too seriously, like the archetype comic book movie.

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@Byshop:

Very good news about Westworld.

Omega Man and Westworld made quite a scary impression on me as a young kid, figured a high tech reboot might do them good.

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@hillelslovak said:

Dune. Story in the books, characters, setting etc is all top notch. Movie was piss poor.

I remember reading somewhere that during the film's initial theatrical run, audiences were accompanied with a mini-index for the material so they could (seldom) follow what the hell was going on.

I love Lynch's work for the most part, but it's an incomprehensible mess. On the flip side, the book has always been considered as unadaptable.

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Ghostbusters 2016 Some one had to say it:P

Any way think they should reboot Star trek TNG movies. Even though Patrick Stewart is a lot older he has aged well and still could pull it off. Even though he all ready said he would not play Piccard again :)

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Transformers

But this time go back to animated movies. Do it the right way without mr explosion directing it and no live actors. Make a real Transformers movie again. Its been like 25 years lol.

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I think something should be done with the die hard franchise, i would of preferred a remake of the first rather than the last 2 bruce willis churned out for the pay check.

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I'm generally opposed to "reboots" unless the original was bad. That said Dune would be a good choice for a GoT style series. On the plus side it even has all of it's books already in print. There's just too much story there for a single movie or even a miniseries.

Not a reboot but I really wish Guillermo del Toro would get to make "At the Mountains of Madness."

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Star wars. The old ones need more CGI.

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Blade. Bring that series back. STILL my favorite marvel movie. Enter the Dragon...or really a remake of any Bruce Lee flick. So the current generation can appreciate an action flick with skill as opposed to wires and CGI.

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The Labrynth. Keep it weird, keep it quirky, keep it cheesy, keep it songy, keep the puppetry. But make it new.

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I would love to see a Running Man TV show filmed as though it was a real reality TV show.

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the godfather

just to see the internet lose their minds

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@comp_atkins:

I certainly would, IMO best movie ever made.....it should not be attempted because it would not be better, ain't gonna happen. Only an idiot or complete egotistical director would attempt such folly.

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@comp_atkins said:

the godfather

just to see the internet lose their minds

It would be nice to see a Godfather remake. However, this thread is more about what movies that were critical and commercial failures but otherwise had potential (i.e. Dredd)

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Star wars. The old ones need more CGI.

Nope. Reboot the prequels. Take advice from Redlettermedia. No Jar Jar Binks. Make them great again.

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@drunk_pi said:
@comp_atkins said:

the godfather

just to see the internet lose their minds

It would be nice to see a Godfather remake. However, this thread is more about what movies that were critical and commercial failures but otherwise had potential (i.e. Dredd)

@SolidSnake35 said:

Star wars. The old ones need more CGI.

Nope. Reboot the prequels. Take advice from Redlettermedia. No Jar Jar Binks. Make them great again.

What?! J. J. Binks was the greatest villain of all time.

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@SolidSnake35 said:
@drunk_pi said:
@comp_atkins said:

the godfather

just to see the internet lose their minds

It would be nice to see a Godfather remake. However, this thread is more about what movies that were critical and commercial failures but otherwise had potential (i.e. Dredd)

@SolidSnake35 said:

Star wars. The old ones need more CGI.

Nope. Reboot the prequels. Take advice from Redlettermedia. No Jar Jar Binks. Make them great again.

What?! J. J. Binks was the greatest villain of all time.

Well he did make a convincing argument to grant Chancellor Palpatine greater executive orders. :P

Plot-twist: JJ Binks is Snoke

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Not movies, but I dig Shakespeare plays in contemporary settings (as evident by the avatar).

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I thought I Am Legend was a pretty good movie, but the Omega Man I read in highschool would have been much better IMO.

I think you mean the book I Am Legend. Omega Man was the Charlton Heston movie reboot that strayed even farther from the book than the Will Smith movie. Yeah, I Am Legend wasn't a bad movie, exactly. I actually liked it for the most part, but the ending annoyed me for the previously stated reasons. They actually flimed an alternate ending that while still different from the original story was closer to the idea of it. I was annoyed that throughout the movie they kept hinting to his character that the "darkseekers" were intelligent but Neville never picks up on it or does anything with that information. When the one vampire sticks its head out into the sunlight when Neville captures his mate/daughter/whatever, Neville writes it off in his recordings as evidence that their mental faculties are deteriorating rather than that the vampire was tempted to risk his own life to save her from Neville. There are other clues throughout the movie, and then it becomes blatantly obvious when they set a trap for Neville, but right after that it turns into all out war between them so it never gets explored.

In an alternate ending, instead of blowing himself up with a grenade and the Anna and Charlie escaping, the lead vampire stops attacking and smears his blood in the shape of a butterfly on the glass to indicate to Neville that he just wants the female back. Neville opens the door and returns the female and the lead vampire stops the rest from attacking. They leave and Neville is left with the realization that he has been killing these creatures in "Costco-levels" of bulk when they are actually intelligent and care about each other. It still has the remaining humans escaping to a colony up north with the cure, so it still largely missed the point.

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@Byshop said:
@hillelslovak said:

Dune. Story in the books, characters, setting etc is all top notch. Movie was piss poor.

Good one.

@AFBrat77 said:

Westworld, Soylent Green, Omega Man......a few futuristic movies I remember from the mid 70's

As @hallenbeck77 pointed out, Westworld is already in the works. HBO announced it close to a year ago and it's coming in 2017.

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It looks damned good, too. Thankfully a reboot of Westworld proper and not the awful sequel Futureworld.

I'm looking forward to this as well, it looks awesome.

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I generally think reboots should be of something that is dated or didn't quite get it right the first time. The recent Dred vs the Stalone Jude Dred being a great example of the later.

As far as a dated movie goes, Logan's Run is a good example. The original had an incredibly thin story, poor acting, weak social commentary, and effects that aren't even cool in a retro sort of way. I'm hopeful about the planned reboot.

Now, Ghostbusters is an example of a movie that did not need a remake. That said, if you MUST remake something that still holds up, you should try to take the core concept and do something different with it. Haven't seen the movie myself, but on paper I think they took the right approach. Try to keep the spirit, but change up the characters and the style. And modernize the effects.

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#33  Edited By deactivated-5cf0a2e13dbde
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@Byshop said:
@hillelslovak said:

I thought I Am Legend was a pretty good movie, but the Omega Man I read in highschool would have been much better IMO.

I think you mean the book I Am Legend. Omega Man was the Charlton Heston movie reboot that strayed even farther from the book than the Will Smith movie. Yeah, I Am Legend wasn't a bad movie, exactly. I actually liked it for the most part, but the ending annoyed me for the previously stated reasons. They actually flimed an alternate ending that while still different from the original story was closer to the idea of it. I was annoyed that throughout the movie they kept hinting to his character that the "darkseekers" were intelligent but Neville never picks up on it or does anything with that information. When the one vampire sticks its head out into the sunlight when Neville captures his mate/daughter/whatever, Neville writes it off in his recordings as evidence that their mental faculties are deteriorating rather than that the vampire was tempted to risk his own life to save her from Neville. There are other clues throughout the movie, and then it becomes blatantly obvious when they set a trap for Neville, but right after that it turns into all out war between them so it never gets explored.

In an alternate ending, instead of blowing himself up with a grenade and the Anna and Charlie escaping, the lead vampire stops attacking and smears his blood in the shape of a butterfly on the glass to indicate to Neville that he just wants the female back. Neville opens the door and returns the female and the lead vampire stops the rest from attacking. They leave and Neville is left with the realization that he has been killing these creatures in "Costco-levels" of bulk when they are actually intelligent and care about each other. It still has the remaining humans escaping to a colony up north with the cure, so it still largely missed the point.

-Byshop

Yeah, I miswrote it. I like in the book, the shift of who was really the villian. It had more impact than the movie.

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#34 deactivated-5cf0a2e13dbde
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@jagoff said:
@hillelslovak said:

Dune. Story in the books, characters, setting etc is all top notch. Movie was piss poor.

I remember reading somewhere that during the film's initial theatrical run, audiences were accompanied with a mini-index for the material so they could (seldom) follow what the hell was going on.

I love Lynch's work for the most part, but it's an incomprehensible mess. On the flip side, the book has always been considered as unadaptable.

I can certainly see that. Imagine a Dune show on HBO, styled like Game of Thrones. I would come all over the place if that was announced.

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#35  Edited By chitosan87
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This is a tough choice. For Me, I’ll go with Indiana Jones, even Harrison Ford seems very iconic for being Jones. Some said that Chris Patt are goin to be young Indiana, we’ll see …

But reboot is kinda boring. We have seen it from Spiderman and Fantastic Four. Why don’t try like the Incredible Hulk or James Bond. We could say many people know the origin, but we want to know what’s coming next right?

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Dredd (2012) was a great reboot that didn't make it's $50 million budget back until it went to video, but any plans for a sequel were scrapped, such a shame. I think they should give it another go.

Anyhow, I blame launching at the end of a slow summer right before End of Watch to be what made that fail, being rated R didn't help, and they had a really shallow 3D promotion ad campaign that made it just look like a gimmick of a flick. But, the movie itself was rather awesome. And Lena Headey made an excellent lead villain.

It probably didn't help either that the Sylvester Stallone Judge Dredd (w/ Rob Schneider) movie was shit.

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@uninspiredcup said:
@Byshop said:
@hillelslovak said:

Dune. Story in the books, characters, setting etc is all top notch. Movie was piss poor.

Good one.

@AFBrat77 said:

Westworld, Soylent Green, Omega Man......a few futuristic movies I remember from the mid 70's

As @hallenbeck77 pointed out, Westworld is already in the works. HBO announced it close to a year ago and it's coming in 2017.

Loading Video...

It looks damned good, too. Thankfully a reboot of Westworld proper and not the awful sequel Futureworld.

I'm looking forward to this as well, it looks awesome.

This looks great ! Glad i kept HBO ..

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#38  Edited By deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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A modern-day Running Man would be pretty cool.

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@comp_atkins said:

the godfather

just to see the internet lose their minds

you shut your fucking mouth

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Boyz n the Hood

Though they will change it to white cops killing innocent black men, so never mind

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#41  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Wesley Snipes, though, ridiculously physically fit, is probably too old to play Blade, and 3 essenailly killed it.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Wesley-Snipes-Really-Wants-Blade-Reboot-Here-What-He-Said-133147.html

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@AFBrat77 said:

Westworld, Soylent Green, Omega Man......a few futuristic movies I remember from the mid 70's

I am legend was omega man redone, and better imo.

Rolling Thunder is my pick.

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i liked watching the absent minded professor in my youth. the 90's remake did have the benefit of a rose colored view because robin williams was in it, but it did miss the mark somewhat. there is a great lot of potential in that concept for a movie though. strangely enough, if they were going to remake it, i would rather they mostly abandoned the original story.

mark ruffalo could play as the lead. with his performance as the professor squarely between his quiet careful with his mind and not showboatey bruce banner, and let it out where it gets out expressive but not silly demeanor in infinity polar bear. collette wolfe would be his lady love. he would be in the depths of an important series of lectures/science exhibitions or as a consultant for something when, because of the seemingly impossible scientific observations/theories that he submits, his off center demeanor, and often calamitous demonstrations, he receives notice that he will soon be committed. he is calm and accepting of his fate, even shows that he expected as much. collette's character could be working with him so that she is able take over where he left off once he leaves. while getting to know him and exploring some of his ideas she buys into some of his crazy. rallied by her advocacy they then set off to prove the truth in what all but him know as madness. in doing so, as usual, something awry occurs, the characters then find themselves: in another dimension, back in time, on another planet, in another plain of existence. maybe all of those situations or one. at some point he would admit that in some subconscious way the whole thing was more him escaping rather than an accident.

the tone of the show would be as far as possible from farcical, but distinctly aside of solemn. it would let the characters be charming. the professor would stand out against his world. supplementary characters' performances would not insist on matching the bigness of the main character; which would just make for the whole thing being abysmally awkward, like so many 90's movies before it. ie. just about every jim carrey movie of his era save perhaps the original ace ventura. it's world wouldnt take the role of a bully looking down on him because it thinks him mad, it would more react in a wtf manner. it would be a middle ground love child of; rick and morty, back to the future, inception, pineapple express, land of the lost, wristcutters, the book of eli & indiana jones.

flubber would be a cameo reference as one of his disaster demonstrations.

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earthworm jim. made by the very same lot that did the first insidious. at least 2 & 1/2 hours long.

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@kend0_kap0ni said:

Boyz n the Hood

Though they will change it to white cops killing innocent black men, so never mind

He cannot be replaced.

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it would be interesting to see if anyone could make a sequel to the truman show interesting.

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Blade. Bring back Blade. Those first two movies were awesome. That series is criminally underrated. Would love that.

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@OmitName said:

it would be interesting to see if anyone could make a sequel to the truman show interesting.

Have him mentally break down with several suicide attempts as he comes to realization the world isn't like Sea Haven and that Christof was right all along.

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@uninspiredcup: i wouldnt be very interested in that. i think that would be sad. in my opinion it would betray any sympathy you might have had for him watching the first show. i dunno what might make a good sequel good. that is why im so curious in seeing one. a love story of some sort is probably inevitable.

it's a wonder his focus of affection isnt cast more in movies. i think she acted well in that one.

http://www.movies-net.com/media/actors/natascha-mcelhone.jpg

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Claypot Curry Killer needs an "all white cast" (hollywood) reboot

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