More than half of military rape victims are men

On average 38 men are raped every day

Terrible, yeah...but this is simply because they are far and away the majority. But the percent of women raped is almost three times higher.

Could of just left it at terrible and called it a day.

Could have? Yes. But why would I? It is relevant to this post. Sure, it is terrible that half of those sexually assaulted in the military are men; but if we are going to discuss the topic why focus on the smaller percentage of victims? Just because the Young Turk is just realizing this, doesn't mean it hasn't been brought up and discussed for a few years now. So if it isn't new information, why still only discuss this one side?

Yeah we get it @The_Last_Ride, you hate feminism so much that it objectively makes you appear to be homosexual.

Well technically it isn't the smaller percentage of the whole. Well, I guess we're shooting right into political so yeah screw that. Okay. I guess it's worth discussing if you have seen or read any research into the percentage of women in the percentage of people raped staying level against itself. As in over the course of 10 years the 30% increase of women in the military has been met with similar escalation of rape? Or did the increase of women for selection of rapists in the military effect the percentage of men raped in escalation or the opposite?

I mean all that you've given to discuss is that men only get raped because not enough women are there to get raped instead.

Or did you mean something else? Not being hostile and maybe because of the lack of tone with words you meant something else?

nice

Don't understand where I ever did anything in the bold.

Anyway, the military (active duty force) is about 85% (1.2 million) men and 15% (200,000) women. The total of reported sexual assaults is around 30,000 a year, based on 2012 and 2013 numbers. The percentage of that 30,000 victims that is men and women is about 50/50 (as the video explains). So 15,000 of the 1.2 million men have reported assault - so roughly 1.25% of all active duty men; however that is nothing when you consider the 15,000 of the 200,000 women who have reported assault, which comes to roughly 7.5%.

So yeah, it is terrible that so many men have reported sexual assault...but given that proportionally 6 times more women are assaulted makes its just as (if not more) important to discuss in this topic.

Where in lies why I said your initial statement came across as you bolded from my post.

Without a much longer scale across time that, given how things have changed over the last 20-30 years, it is impossible for numbers alone do little but show that there is a preference. Which is normal. But how important is the preference when it has long been established as you yourself pointed out?

We could say women are an easier target for X or Y reasons but we can also say that men are as well. Mix of social doctrine, sexist or not, among other things are all up for grabs in why or why not. Hell we could say that distinct disproportion of the total number of women in direct combat roles against men is valid. Does not mean it is or isn't true but regardless it does not change that men and women are being raped.

So it comes down to how important to correcting the issue is the preference when we cannot stack the situation against say Chicago, IL rape statistics. Or for instance prison as most do not mix the inmates. Even the inter social complexities of civilian, prison, and military isn't something that overlaps so effortlessly. Reporting, not reporting, and all that jazz.

So you infer that the numbers pointing to women being raped at a much larger percentage of representation is more important to the problem as it were than the affected representation of men.

Okay then.

Can you explain what you think people should see or understand from that perspective and most importantly how that perspective can efficiently tackle a problem that effects an entire spectrum? Because that is how I read that perspective that you told me to see. So if you could actually explain to me how I should be seeing it then hey I certainly wouldn't mind. So many ways to see this and even more to look at the presented data and shake one's head at just how vague and utterly broken down the transparency can possibly be.

"One of the myths is that the perpetrators identify as gay, which is by and large not the case. It's not about the sex. It's about power and control."

In the military sexual assault has a broad definition. People hear the word assault and automatically think that assault means rape. While rape is a form of sexual assault, it is also considered sexual assault if you give somebody a "good game" pat on the ass. I am in no way excusing inappropriate touching, and with the way the military is right now that is a great way to end your career.

People on the outside may not know this, but it is to the point now that if you are even accused of sexual assault you are assumed guilty until proven innocent. Senior commanders are being relieved and demoted because they haven't done enough to protect victims of sexual assault.

Also, while there are victims there are also people who lie to retaliate against superiors. In the military adultery is illegal so some married troops may claim rape to protect themselves from adultery charges. Commanders are reluctant to press charges against somebody who made a false report because it may discourage real victims from coming forward.

they shouldn't be dressed in those slutty uniforms if they don't want to get raped.

BAM! nailed it!

I do recall I took a sociology class a few years ago. I was speaking with the professor one time after class, and he told me that the group that was most at risk for rape was young men in prison.

I liked that class. It was mostly class discussions and group projects.

@The_Last_Ride: LOL and your point being?

And 90% of those happen in jail.

huh? For those that only want to shed light on female rape, it also happens to men. That was my point.

Ahh ok was just wondering what you were trying to say

But ya "rape" happens to men even women can "rape" a man.

Rapes pretty bad

How was that your point? You never once mentioned female rape, or ANYTHING about how male rape isn't talked about as often.

Did you watch the video? It was all in there...

It's bad no matter who does it

All the video does is talk about men sexually assaulted in the military. That doesn't mean your OP was intended to show those that only focus on female rape that it also happens to men.

I bet the rate is actually higher since rape for both sexes is heavily under-reported.

@SaintLeonidas: Female, male, whatever. Rape is bad. No matter what. My point of the post was that men also get raped. And it's pretty much getting ignored

Okay. This doesn't exactly surprise me considering there's more men in the military than women. Is this some MRA bullshit? Not to imply that I'm a feminist, **** both movements. Though you could just be trying to prove a point to the people who say that women have it so bad in the US which is what I assume.

You just made my day.

As a man i guess it matters on how you look at it.

And luckily i am quite a law abiding citizen so i wont be going to jail anytime soon. Also that kind of thing happens more in american or prisons where you dont have a single man cell.

Also as a ex-army grunt i never saw anything even remotely sexual happen, might be because we were not that far from cute iraquian girls and in afghanistan we were close to the british troops.

That's a really terrible thing.

Sadly you're correct

Never saw anything like that either in the army either

And people complain about my soggy knee.