Mike Tyson vs. Bruce Lee, who would win?

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#101 Posted by kingkong0124 (8710 posts) -

(Iron)+Mike+Tyson+prepares+for+his+fight.

#102 Posted by Palantas (15322 posts) -

[QUOTE="jim_shorts"]

This thread is so frustrating. Bruce Lee wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of beating Tyson. Tyson is AT LEAST 40 pounds heavier and three inches taller. Not to mention how much stronger Tyson was in his prime.

Renevent42

The only frustrating thing is comments like yours. Check out the early UFC fights...hell UFC 1 is a prime example. Gracie defeated Shamrock who must have outweighed him by 80 pounds at least.

Yeah...except lets pretend that Gracie didn't win UFC 1. Let's pretend that all he's ever done is make movies and do martial arts demos. Shamrock is still Shamrock. Now there's a thread online saying that Gracie, movie star, will beat Shamrock, fighter. It's ridiculous.

#103 Posted by Aljosa23 (25131 posts) -

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]Tyson, it's a well known fact that a boxers jab is far faster than any move Lee could make (and yes his movies used stop-gap techniques to appear faster than he really was).killzowned24

Lee's kicks would have a longer reach.Tyson would be out of his game once he saw a kick coming.

Lee goes,low kick ,low kick,high kick...good night :P

What? Tyson is 2-3 inches taller than Lee with a reach of 71 inches. Lee would need to be lightening quick and have ridiculous reach to be able to do sufficient damage to Tyson.Never mind the fact how fast Mike Tyson is and coupled with his size? Scaaaaaaaary.

#104 Posted by killzowned24 (7345 posts) -
[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="JohnF111"] Yeah that image you posted was a guy missing his block, that was the weakest block I ever seen, Tysons block is far far far far tighter than that failed attempt.

After tyson would have taken countless oblique kicks to the knee he would be forced to block low.

As soon as Lee raised his foot Tyson would have knocked three hits at Lee. He'd be down and out. It's the "Lion or the Bear" argument all over again, the lion is quicker but the bear can take 20 hits and then thump one hit on the lion and kill it. It's true by the way, years ago these kind of fights were actually done and the bear always won.

His kicks probably have more power than tyson hands. Lee has far more whereas a boxer is one dimensional.
#105 Posted by Renevent42 (5326 posts) -

[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="jim_shorts"]

This thread is so frustrating. Bruce Lee wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of beating Tyson. Tyson is AT LEAST 40 pounds heavier and three inches taller. Not to mention how much stronger Tyson was in his prime.

Palantas

The only frustrating thing is comments like yours. Check out the early UFC fights...hell UFC 1 is a prime example. Gracie defeated Shamrock who must have outweighed him by 80 pounds at least.

Yeah...except lets pretend that Gracie didn't win UFC 1. Let's pretend that all he's ever done is make movies and do martial arts demos. Shamrock is still Shamrock. Now there's a thread online saying that Gracie, movie star, will beat Shamrock, fighter. It's ridiculous.

I'm pretty sure that was Gracies first professional fight:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royce_Gracie

On the other hand, Shamrock had quite a few under his belt by that time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Shamrock

#106 Posted by InEMplease (6343 posts) -

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

[QUOTE="I"]

Oh Christ, this again. Bruce Lee is an actor. His fight record is no more impressive than mine, but for some reason he has a cult following amongst nerds. Stop comparing him to professional fighters.

Palantas

His fight record is very much undocumented. He was a professional fighter.

I don't think you understand what a professional fighter is. A professional fighter is someone who is paid for fights within a legal, recognize organization, and whose fights are documented. Fights being documented is intrinsic to the definition of a professional fighter. Someone who, according to rumor, beat some guys in street fights is not a professional fighter.

"A professional fighter is someone who is paid for fights within a legal, recognize organization, and whose fights are documented."

Did you find that in a dictionary? I'm not trying to be a d*ck or anything, but I'd like to know where you got that definition and if it's accurate.

#107 Posted by hippiesanta (9892 posts) -

bruce lee .... because he got better I.Q

#109 Posted by lowkey254 (5904 posts) -

Fei Long vs Balrog. I choose Balrog.

#110 Posted by Storm_Marine (11145 posts) -

Size....isn't everything. Just look at Bob Sapp.

#111 Posted by CreasianDevaili (4133 posts) -
In a closed in area like a UFC fight, I think Tyson has an almost sealed victory. He does have quick feet. He has great reach. His mass and bone structure is a great buffer. In the UFC fight he had more advantages than Lee. In a much bigger ring I think Lee might have a good chance to put on a good show, and hell, maaaaybe win. But not in a traditional UFC regulated fight.
#112 Posted by InEMplease (6343 posts) -

We can all agree it would be a kickass fight, right?

#113 Posted by CreasianDevaili (4133 posts) -

We can all agree it would be a kickass fight, right?

InEMplease
We finally get to see if Tyson likes a chinese buffet? Sure.
#114 Posted by InEMplease (6343 posts) -

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

We can all agree it would be a kickass fight, right?

CreasianDevaili

We finally get to see if Tyson likes a chinese buffet? Sure.

giggity

#115 Posted by lightleggy (16048 posts) -

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]Tyson, it's a well known fact that a boxers jab is far faster than any move Lee could make (and yes his movies used stop-gap techniques to appear faster than he really was).Aljosa23

Lee's kicks would have a longer reach.Tyson would be out of his game once he saw a kick coming.

Lee goes,low kick ,low kick,high kick...good night :P

What? Tyson is 2-3 inches taller than Lee with a reach of 71 inches. Lee would need to be lightening quick and have ridiculous reach to be able to do sufficient damage to Tyson.Never mind the fact how fast Mike Tyson is and coupled with his size? Scaaaaaaaary.

You mean kicking this fast?

And in a fight, Bruce lee would use his "six inch punch" to create a gap in space, giving him enough room to perform a deadly flying kick.

#116 Posted by InEMplease (6343 posts) -

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] Lee's kicks would have a longer reach.Tyson would be out of his game once he saw a kick coming.

Lee goes,low kick ,low kick,high kick...good night :P

lightleggy

What? Tyson is 2-3 inches taller than Lee with a reach of 71 inches. Lee would need to be lightening quick and have ridiculous reach to be able to do sufficient damage to Tyson.Never mind the fact how fast Mike Tyson is and coupled with his size? Scaaaaaaaary.

You mean kicking this fast?

And in a fight, Bruce lee would use his "six inch punch" to create a gap in space, giving him enough room to perform a deadly flying kick.

Ha, "I can do that, hold my beer." *falls on face*

"Give me my beer."

#117 Posted by lightleggy (16048 posts) -
And also..isn't it like a tradition in MMA, UFC or whatever, that whenever a guy who only knows boxing enters an actual MMA fight, even if he is an undisputed champion in boxing, he gets his ass handed in a plate in 10 seconds?
#118 Posted by CreasianDevaili (4133 posts) -
A gap in the space time continuum? dear god...
#119 Posted by lightleggy (16048 posts) -

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]What? Tyson is 2-3 inches taller than Lee with a reach of 71 inches. Lee would need to be lightening quick and have ridiculous reach to be able to do sufficient damage to Tyson.Never mind the fact how fast Mike Tyson is and coupled with his size? Scaaaaaaaary.

InEMplease

You mean kicking this fast?

And in a fight, Bruce lee would use his "six inch punch" to create a gap in space, giving him enough room to perform a deadly flying kick.

Ha, "I can do that, hold my beer." *falls on face*

"Give me my beer."

Thats how it would end for pretty much anyone :P Apparently, one of the receptors of Lee's kicks said that it felt like being hit by a car, and the guy wasn't even kicked in his body, he was holding a bag and lee kicked it with so much force the guy just fell back. And it makes sense, from a physical point of view, with that speed, he would be able to nearly double his kinetic energy, add that the already incredible strenght he had, and you end up with someone who hits at least 4 times as hard than a guy like Tyson.
#120 Posted by JustPlainLucas (74219 posts) -
It's not really strength that's everything. Lee was agile, and I don't think it would be that easy to punch him no matter how strong Tyson was. Plus, all Lee would have to do is kick out Tyson's knee caps and walk away.
#121 Posted by InEMplease (6343 posts) -

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

You mean kicking this fast?

And in a fight, Bruce lee would use his "six inch punch" to create a gap in space, giving him enough room to perform a deadly flying kick.

lightleggy

Ha, "I can do that, hold my beer." *falls on face*

"Give me my beer."

Thats how it would end for pretty much anyone :P Apparently, one of the receptors of Lee's kicks said that it felt like being hit by a car, and the guy wasn't even kicked in his body, he was holding a bag and lee kicked it with so much force the guy just fell back. And it makes sense, from a physical point of view, with that speed, he would be able to nearly double his kinetic energy, add that the already incredible strenght he had, and you end up with someone who hits at least 4 times as hard than a guy like Tyson.

Good ol' physics. Momentum=mass*velocity. Lee would defeat tyson with his legs...possibly.

#122 Posted by Sword-Demon (6970 posts) -

I'm no martial arts expert, but it seems like boxing is only really effective against other boxers while fought with specific rules in place. in a scenario where there are no rules, and the opponent knows multiple martial arts styles that were designed to be fought without rules, I think the boxer would be at a severe disadvantage.

#123 Posted by lightleggy (16048 posts) -

I'm no martial arts expert, but it seems like boxing is only really effective against other boxers while fought with specific rules in place. in a scenario where there are no rules, and the opponent knows multiple martial arts styles that were designed to be fought without rules, I think the boxer would be at a severe disadvantage.

Sword-Demon
Yup, like I said, boxing is terrible for self defense. dont get me wrong, a boxer can wreck you in a fight, but thats how it has to be: a fight, it sucks for self defense because unlike other martial arts like judo, kung fu or karate, it doesn't teach you what to do in a situation where, for example, your enemy attacks you from behind, or if they try to use luxations on you or chokes. Tyson wouldn't know how to react to Lee's moves. The same thing happens whenever a top-notch boxer goes into UFC without knowing other martial art. In the UFC, you can see some guys who actually get in (and are succesful) knowing only 1 martial art, David Villa for example, only fights judo, he even goes to the hexagon with a judo gi (which actually puts him at a disadvantage) and he still wrecks anyone. I remember a few years ago, some world class boxer, I dont remember his name, he was a bald black man, kind of chubby but still a heavyweight champion, he got in the UFC and he had his ass whopped in like 10 seconds, because he only knew boxing.
#124 Posted by sukraj (23060 posts) -

Tyson

#125 Posted by Alter_Echo (10722 posts) -

Movie star =/= Badass IRL.

#126 Posted by Lonelynight (30041 posts) -
heavy black dude vs dead guy, I'd put my money on the black dude
#127 Posted by sexyweapons (5302 posts) -

Bruce Lee easily.

#128 Posted by Wiimotefan (4078 posts) -

One hit from Tyson would seriously injury, or possibly kill Bruce Lee.

#129 Posted by Palantas (15322 posts) -

I remember a few years ago, some world class boxer, I dont remember his name, he was a bald black man, kind of chubby but still a heavyweight champion, he got in the UFC and he had his ass whopped in like 10 seconds, because he only knew boxing.lightleggy

It was James Toney, and he fought Randy Couture. He fought a legend in the sport of fighting, with an established record against numerous opponents who had their own impressive records against other opponents. Bruce Lee is not in the same category as Randy Couture.

#130 Posted by Palantas (15322 posts) -

Why is it always Bruce Lee in these threads? Why Jet Li? Or Jackie Chan? Or Steven Seagal? Or any other f***ing movie star?

You have a movie star who claims he can do all sorts of dangerous things, but you've never, ever, actually seen him do his moves against a real, resisting opponent. And you just take him at his word that he can do these amazing things. I guess people are gullible. This is why bullshido outfits make money. Go watch UFC 1-5. A whole slew of people thought they could do amazing things until they were dropped into a real fight.

#131 Posted by sexyweapons (5302 posts) -

One hit from Tyson would seriously injury, or possibly kill Bruce Lee.

Wiimotefan

Bruce Lee could easily take down Tyson,just because he's small doesn't make him weak.

#132 Posted by y890 (47 posts) -

Fei Long VS Balrog

i'll choose bruce lee

#133 Posted by johnd13 (8235 posts) -

Bruce Lee is cooler but Tyson would destroy him.

#134 Posted by themajormayor (25854 posts) -
Since it's no rules and no protective gear I think Bruce Lee, being quicker, would just kick Tyson in the nuts and the fight is over.
#135 Posted by SUD123456 (4488 posts) -

Since it's no rules and no protective gear I think Bruce Lee, being quicker, would just kick Tyson in the nuts and the fight is over.themajormayor

I read through 7 pages to post this exact thing...and you beat me to it, hehe.

You are right. 99% of the time I take Tyson, but since this is no rules with no gear it will play out exactly as you say.

And the reason why it will be this instead of the other way around is because Tyson is a moron and a brute ruled by emotion whereas Lee is a thinking man and self disciplined.

Tyson will rage wade in. Lee will know this. It's over in 10 secs.

#136 Posted by megagene (23016 posts) -
There's no doubt that Tyson is a much much larger and physically stronger man. He could probably shatter Lee's skull with one blow. Then again, Lee is lightning fast and could break Tyson's leg/knee with a kick or kick him in the balls and drop him faster than you can blink. Which is something that Tyson, as a boxer, is not particularly well trained to deal with. It would really just boil down to who gets in the first hit.
#137 Posted by Bucked20 (6951 posts) -
Since it's no rules and no protective gear I think Bruce Lee, being quicker, would just kick Tyson in the nuts and the fight is over.themajormayor
Get out of here with that kicking nuts bs,no one does that
#138 Posted by Rattlesnake_8 (18414 posts) -
Bruce Lee, one punch and Tyson would be dead.
#139 Posted by lightleggy (16048 posts) -

One hit from Tyson would seriously injury, or possibly kill Bruce Lee.

Wiimotefan
Same goes for Tyson, we've already discussed how according to physics, one hit from Lee would be twice as hard than anything tyson can pull
#140 Posted by Aljosa23 (25131 posts) -

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

One hit from Tyson would seriously injury, or possibly kill Bruce Lee.

lightleggy

Same goes for Tyson, we've already discussed how according to physics, one hit from Lee would be twice as hard than anything tyson can pull

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

#141 Posted by lightleggy (16048 posts) -

Why is it always Bruce Lee in these threads? Why Jet Li? Or Jackie Chan? Or Steven Seagal? Or any other f***ing movie star?

You have a movie star who claims he can do all sorts of dangerous things, but you've never, ever, actually seen him do his moves against a real, resisting opponent. And you just take him at his word that he can do these amazing things. I guess people are gullible. This is why bullshido outfits make money. Go watch UFC 1-5. A whole slew of people thought they could do amazing things until they were dropped into a real fight.

Palantas
You are an idiot, you believe that because these people are actors, that they would be helpless in a real fight. Our of the guys you mentioned, only Jet Li could be considered a "fake", and just because he loves to use wires to fly around in his movies, Jackie Chan always pulled his own stunts and fights and you should see a documentary on the many times he failed and nearly died while filiming a movie (he once fell off a clock tower, which wasn't supposed to happen and only survived because there was a small cloth-made roof below him, he got hit by a chopper, he was crushed by a car between another car..) There is actually video footage of Jackie Chan training at Peking Opera, which was also known to be an extremely controversial place, go watch those training videos and tell me if you still believe that Jackie Chan is not a real fighter. As for Steven Seagal, he IS a real sheriff in the US, so yeah Im pretty sure the guy can kick ass in real life, as any other sheriff could. funny because I bet any of those guys, even Li would beat the living **** out of you in 2 seconds.
#142 Posted by lightleggy (16048 posts) -

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

One hit from Tyson would seriously injury, or possibly kill Bruce Lee.

Aljosa23

Same goes for Tyson, we've already discussed how according to physics, one hit from Lee would be twice as hard than anything tyson can pull

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This is Physics talking, not me. Do you wish to argue with physics?
#143 Posted by Aljosa23 (25131 posts) -

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] Same goes for Tyson, we've already discussed how according to physics, one hit from Lee would be twice as hard than anything tyson can pulllightleggy

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This is Physics talking, not me. Do you wish to argue with physics?

LOL sure it is.

Mike Tyson's punch is anywhere from 1600-1900 psi and that's enough to kill the average man with one punch to the head. Now, how the fvck can Lee even hope to match that let alone hit twice as hard (LOL).

#144 Posted by lightleggy (16048 posts) -

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Aljosa23

This is Physics talking, not me. Do you wish to argue with physics?

LOL sure it is.

Mike Tyson's punch is anywhere from 1600-1900 psi and that's enough to kill the average man with one punch to the head. Now, how the fvck can Lee even hope to match that let alone hit twice as hard (LOL).

Because Lee's move would make more Kinectic energy than Tyson's, thus hitting faster, Lee could hit faster, way faster than tyson, sure tyson was fast, but lee was faster, his kicks would easily best any of tyson's punchs, you also seem to be forgetting that Lee was incredibly fit and also strong. Hell, how do you think that the one inch punch technique works? it uses kinetic energy to cause that much damage from 1-2 cm away, now imagine how hard that would be with a regular's punch space.

#145 Posted by Aljosa23 (25131 posts) -

I like how the people saying Lee are (hopefully) aware that no actual footage of any of his fights or ridiculous feats exist outside of his friends saying it and on Bruce Lee fansites lol. I love Lee as an action star and writer but a fighter able to take on people who do it for money, especially a monster like Mike Tyson, is ridiculous. So sad how Lee's legacy has been reduced to mysticism akin to Wong Fei-Hung.

#146 Posted by lightleggy (16048 posts) -

I like how the people saying Lee are (hopefully) aware that no actual footage of any of his fights or ridiculous feats exist outside of his friends saying it and on Bruce Lee fansites lol. I love Lee as an action star and writer but a fighter able to take on people who do it for money, especially a monster like Mike Tyson, is ridiculous. So sad how Lee's legacy has been reduced to mysticism akin to Wong Fei-Hung.

Aljosa23
Im not discussing any of his feats like holding a V position or anything like that, but he WAS incredibly skilled and he did made demonstrations (again, 1 inch punch demonstration where he destroyed a wood plank 1 away away), there are plenty of vids showing Lee's achievements, and yes there is one vid where he is seen doing 1 handed push ups with his thump and index only.
#147 Posted by Aljosa23 (25131 posts) -

Because Lee's move would make more Kinectic energy than Tyson's, thus hitting faster, Lee could hit faster, way faster than tyson, sure tyson was fast, but lee was faster, his kicks would easily best any of tyson's punchs, you also seem to be forgetting that Lee was incredibly fit and also strong. Hell, how do you think that the one inch punch technique works? it uses kinetic energy to cause that much damage from 1-2 cm away, now imagine how hard that would be with a regular's punch space.

lightleggy

You have no idea what you're talking about. The 1 inch punch isn't an actual fighting technique, it's an exercise designed to improve your punching technique. Lee was fit and strong sure, but HE'S NO MIKE TYSON nor is any other comparison in this thread relevant since they're not Mike Tyson. Tyson fights FOR A LIVING, Lee does it in films with the aid of high-speed cameras.

#148 Posted by lightleggy (16048 posts) -
You can see the guy doing said push ups here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXP6trDByRQ
#149 Posted by v13_KiiLtz (2779 posts) -
[Hell, how do you think that the one inch punch technique works? it uses kinetic energy to cause that much damage from 1-2 cm away, now imagine how hard that would be with a regular's punch space.lightleggy
hll the one inch punch comes from Wing Chun you dope and it was to sustain the concept of "closest target, closest weapon". it has nothing to do with power omg educate yourself fool
#150 Posted by Bucked20 (6951 posts) -

Roy Jones could take BL too