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#1  Edited By Stesilaus
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Update:

  • The attacker has been identified as an 18-year-old German-Iranian dual national.
  • At least nine victims, plus the attacker, are known to have perished.
  • Sixteen people were injured, including several children. Three are in critical condition.

Source: German-Iranian gunman kills at least nine in Munich shopping mall (Reuters/MSN)

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#2 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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What's the over/under on identity of shooter?

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#4  Edited By PraetorianMan
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Close the borders, this shits just going to keep on happening otherwise.

It depends entirely on who is behind the attack. As noted in the OP, its the fifth anniversary of Anders Behring Brevik's attack. and this might be related to that.

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Will this shit ever end?

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#6 Kruiz_Bathory
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This just keeps on going everywhere. Some serious shit is gonna go down sooner or later.

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#7 skipper847
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I was walking the other day and a group of 3 came up to me 15, 16, year olds and said. Hay mate you no any where good to go shooting round here in a field. I felt like saying your asking that on what been happening lately?. But I just said no sorry and walked off as seen as they had the gun on in a carry case what looked like a rifle . I did report it to police though. Just cant believe some people these days.

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#8 N64DD
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Just declare war already. We're already at war, might as well make it official, unify and wipe these idiots out.

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#9 skipper847
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The other day a person in RAF 2 people tried kidnapping him in a terror plot.

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From what I've seen, we have no idea who did this. Could've very well been a nationalist who feels their country is going to shit. And ISIS will likely take credit, but that doesn't mean we should believe them and then condemn any Muslim immigrants.

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#11 JustPlainLucas
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@Stesilaus said:

News reports state that multiple shooters went on a rampage in a shopping mall in Munich, Germany, killing at least up to 15 people.

It's not yet clear who is responsible for the attack. MSN notes that the mall is situated adjacent to the same stadium where "Black September" took 11 Israeli athletes hostage during the 1972 Olympic games. (The athletes were later murdered.)

However, MSN also notes that today (July 22) is the fifth anniversary of right-winger Anders Behring Brevik's attack in Norway.

Story on MSN

Correction: There's still a lot of uncertainty as to the extent of the casualties. No deaths have been confirmed yet.

Didn't I just read in that article that the police said at least six were dead?

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@john_of_rivia said:

From what I've seen, we have no idea who did this. Could've very well been a nationalist who feels their country is going to shit. And ISIS will likely take credit, but that doesn't mean we should believe them and then condemn any Muslim immigrants.

ISIS apologist? If they take credit then why give them a pass?

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#13  Edited By byof_america
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@skipper847: on a scale from 1 to 420blazeit, how high are you?

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@LJS9502_basic: Are you referring to me as an ISIS apologist?

And what I mean is that, much like Donald trump, ISIS thrives on attention they can get. They will take credit for anything they can. All I'm saying is that every terror attack may not be the result of Isis.

And I hope when you say "give them a pass" you mean isis

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@byof_america said:

@skipper847: on a scale from 1 to 420blazeit, how high are you?

Don't get the question?.

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Just declare war already. We're already at war, might as well make it official, unify and wipe these idiots out.

LOL when will you war mongers and interventionists ever learn? more wars in the middle east is not going to wipe such groups. Since considering we are allied with the Great Saudis.

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ISIS has apparently claimed responsibility for this and various claims of gunman shouting islamic phrase.

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@CommandoAgent said:
@n64dd said:

Just declare war already. We're already at war, might as well make it official, unify and wipe these idiots out.

LOL when will you war mongers and interventionists ever learn? more wars in the middle east is not going to wipe such groups. Since considering we are allied with the Great Saudis.

What's the alternative? Appeasement?

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@bmanva said:

ISIS has apparently claimed responsibility for this and various claims of gunman shouting islamic phrase.

Not sure about the first part but Munich police and German TV has repeatedly claimed there are no indications (yet?) about it being an attack by Islamists.

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@bmanva said:
@CommandoAgent said:
@n64dd said:

Just declare war already. We're already at war, might as well make it official, unify and wipe these idiots out.

LOL when will you war mongers and interventionists ever learn? more wars in the middle east is not going to wipe such groups. Since considering we are allied with the Great Saudis.

What's the alternative? Appeasement?

Ever heard of a blowback? a blowback happens when you intervene militarily into countries just as a blowback happend in Libya getting rid of Assad is not going to stop these attacks in Europe. What we should is stop making deals with the Saudis.

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@CommandoAgent said:
@bmanva said:
@CommandoAgent said:
@n64dd said:

Just declare war already. We're already at war, might as well make it official, unify and wipe these idiots out.

LOL when will you war mongers and interventionists ever learn? more wars in the middle east is not going to wipe such groups. Since considering we are allied with the Great Saudis.

What's the alternative? Appeasement?

Ever heard of a blowback? a blowback happens when you intervene militarily into countries just as a blowback happend in Libya getting rid of Assad is not going to stop these attacks in Europe. What we should is stop making deals with the Saudis.

And here I thought it was when a girl spit at you after sucking you off :/

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I hate how numb I am getting to this. These groups are getting so brazen, I will not be surprised if the US is attacked next.

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@Aljosa23 said:
@bmanva said:

ISIS has apparently claimed responsibility for this and various claims of gunman shouting islamic phrase.

Not sure about the first part but Munich police and German TV has repeatedly claimed there are no indications (yet?) about it being an attack by Islamists.

I guess we will know for sure soon enough.

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#24  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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Footage shown is claiming in the audio the guy on the rooftop was shouting about Turks and claiming "I am German" with derogatory slurs - so, it might not be ISIS but some far right extremist.

Not that it makes much difference i guess, at the end of the day innocent people are dead due to idiots.

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#25  Edited By comp_atkins
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@bmanva said:
@Aljosa23 said:
@bmanva said:

ISIS has apparently claimed responsibility for this and various claims of gunman shouting islamic phrase.

Not sure about the first part but Munich police and German TV has repeatedly claimed there are no indications (yet?) about it being an attack by Islamists.

I guess we will know for sure soon enough.

we need to know!

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My heart goes out to all those involved.

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It is over. Munich police say it was one gunman who appears to have killed himself, 9 dead (10 including him).

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@magicalclick said:

Can we finally say this is Radical *redacted* *redacted* ? Maybe be it will finally be recognized as Radical White Supremacist Neo Nazi. But, if it is *redacted* *redacted* I think we will have to say it is just someone who is drunk or on drug after playing GTA. Anyway, this time, it won't be DUI for sure. Well.... Whatever *redacted* *redacted*.

Can we finally say that moments after it has occurred and no one knows who they are and what happened? No. We actually have to figure out the facts first. Then we can get hysterical if it makes you feel better.

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@Aljosa23 said:

It is over. Munich police say it was one gunman who appears to have killed himself, 9 dead (10 including him).

There were three shooters its still ongoing.

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Regardless of who did this ISIS strategy has been brilliant to the point of leaving Europe particularly the EU near chaos. Hard to tackle a problem when there's no solutions for it, more so if the only apparent path seems to be against all what was achieved in post WW2 Europe. Right now seems like we already lost.

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@CommandoAgent said:
@Aljosa23 said:

It is over. Munich police say it was one gunman who appears to have killed himself, 9 dead (10 including him).

There were three shooters its still ongoing.

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Death to Christianity. Death to Islam. Death to religion.

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@magicalclick said:

@mark1974: Sure... I hope the statements of the oppressors will be release and we can see how they praise *redacted* and *speaking in* *redacted* *language. Oh hail *redacted*.

But what if it wasn't the redacteds ?!

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@john_of_rivia said:

From what I've seen, we have no idea who did this. Could've very well been a nationalist who feels their country is going to shit. And ISIS will likely take credit, but that doesn't mean we should believe them and then condemn any Muslim immigrants.

ISIS apologist? If they take credit then why give them a pass?

duh they will take the credit because they are controlled by counter intellgence agencies

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@CommandoAgent said:
@bmanva said:
@CommandoAgent said:
@n64dd said:

Just declare war already. We're already at war, might as well make it official, unify and wipe these idiots out.

LOL when will you war mongers and interventionists ever learn? more wars in the middle east is not going to wipe such groups. Since considering we are allied with the Great Saudis.

What's the alternative? Appeasement?

Ever heard of a blowback? a blowback happens when you intervene militarily into countries just as a blowback happend in Libya getting rid of Assad is not going to stop these attacks in Europe. What we should is stop making deals with the Saudis.

So is it blowback that causes Muslims to slaughter minorities in their majority Muslim countries? When Muslims kill vacationing whites just because they are white, is that blowback? Is it blowback when Muslims carry out regular massacres across Africa in countries that have nothing to do with the West' proescution of wars?

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@Aljosa23 said:
@bmanva said:

ISIS has apparently claimed responsibility for this and various claims of gunman shouting islamic phrase.

Not sure about the first part but Munich police and German TV has repeatedly claimed there are no indications (yet?) about it being an attack by Islamists.

They're just being PC about it.

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#40 Stesilaus
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I've updated the OP with the latest details from Reuters.

That the gunman was Iranian reduces the probability that ISIS was involved, since ISIS is a radical Sunni movement, while most Iranian Muslims are Shia.

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@edwise18 said:
@Aljosa23 said:
@bmanva said:

ISIS has apparently claimed responsibility for this and various claims of gunman shouting islamic phrase.

Not sure about the first part but Munich police and German TV has repeatedly claimed there are no indications (yet?) about it being an attack by Islamists.

They're just being suicidal about it.

Fixed it for you.

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@hillelslovak said:
@edwise18 said:
@Aljosa23 said:
@bmanva said:

ISIS has apparently claimed responsibility for this and various claims of gunman shouting islamic phrase.

Not sure about the first part but Munich police and German TV has repeatedly claimed there are no indications (yet?) about it being an attack by Islamists.

They're just being suicidal about it.

Fixed it for you.

QFT. Germany is so high on white guilt that they're committing demographic suicide.

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#43  Edited By deactivated-5cf0a2e13dbde
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@gamerguru100 said:
@hillelslovak said:
@edwise18 said:
@Aljosa23 said:

Not sure about the first part but Munich police and German TV has repeatedly claimed there are no indications (yet?) about it being an attack by Islamists.

They're just being suicidal about it.

Fixed it for you.

QFT. Germany is so high on white guilt that they're committing demographic suicide.

What is happening in Germany is frightening. Year after year, an added 2% to their population, and the majority are Middle Eastern refugees, and they have an extremely hard time dealing with these people in a legal and resettlement sense.

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Germany needs to uncuck itself before they lose their country.

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@Gaming-Planet said:

Germany needs to uncuck itself before they lose their country.

I'd say the same for most Western European countries.

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Funny how these attacks happen everywhere except Israel.

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Funny how these attacks happen everywhere except Israel.

They used Trump's idea

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Apparently his name who did the shooting is David S. Further down it says his name is Ali David Sonboly and they say is German-Iranian and only been living there 2 years. It looks like to me That the right wing is out again trying to that it not terror related. Even witness said he was saying I am German. New tactics from terrorist?.

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@skipper847 said:

Apparently his name who did the shooting is David S. Further down it says his name is Ali David Sonboly and they say is German-Iranian and only been living there 2 years. It looks like to me That the right wing is out again trying to that it not terror related. Even witness said he was saying I am German. New tactics from terrorist?.

I assume this is the German-Iranian arguing?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=20b_1469215263

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It's not a problem. Not everyone is like him.