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#1 Socialist696
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https://www.videogamesuncovered.com/news/media-mess-up-results-in-mass-effect-series-blamed-for-connecticut-shooting.html

Mass Effect blamed for this CT shooting?

What a crock of s***. Discuss, why are videogames always targets for this kind of s***?

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#2 dave123321
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Some people are ignorant
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#3 Chow_Mein_Kampf
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Makes for an easy boogeyman..............

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#4 konvikt_17
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instead of owning up to their own actions, most just take the coward route and blame video games.

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#5 Socialist696
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I hate when people immediately accuse videogames for such things.... Mass Effect isn't even a violent game compared to almost every other game out there. Its actually a pretty moderate game by my standards considering it contains nothing obscene beyond sex lol
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#6 konvikt_17
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video games make for a nice scapegoat.

and the sad thing is, people actually believe that sh!t.

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#7 punkpunker
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INDOCTRINATION DETECTED!

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#8 Socialist696
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Videogames are no different than movies, except one controls the course of events and circumstances. If videogames are to be blamed for disruptive behavior in society, so should movies, or even novels for that matter.
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#10 MakeMeaSammitch
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Stupid people just point fingers.

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#11 worlock77
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What, you missed the part in ME3 where Shepard blows up a bus full of kids?
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#12 Socialist696
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What, you missed the part in ME3 where Shepard blows up a bus full of kids?worlock77
I must've, do elaborate I don't recall that (seriously).
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#13 Socialist696
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]What, you missed the part in ME3 where Shepard blows up a bus full of kids?Socialist696
I must've, do elaborate I don't recall that (seriously).

Only thing I remember is in the end, you can become a vile cur and betray everyone for control of the Reapers.

Oh and I killed Ashley, first playthrough

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#14 CreasianDevaili
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So they were right. SWTOR drove someone to go on an killing spree.
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#15 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]What, you missed the part in ME3 where Shepard blows up a bus full of kids?Socialist696
I must've, do elaborate I don't recall that (seriously).

Seriously?
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#16 Socialist696
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[QUOTE="Socialist696"][QUOTE="worlock77"]What, you missed the part in ME3 where Shepard blows up a bus full of kids?worlock77
I must've, do elaborate I don't recall that (seriously).

Seriously?

Yes, I only played through it twice....once paragon and once renegade. is it DLC or in the main game? I really don't recall that, I'm not saying you're mistaken I just truely have not seen it lol
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lulz
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#18 Socialist696
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So they were right. SWTOR drove someone to go on an killing spree. CreasianDevaili
Star Wars is too epic for that :P
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#19 Socialist696
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I really don't recall that which is why I'm asking. I remember that whole game pretty clearly from earths attack to building up a fleet against the reapers, to the assassin by the elusive man to the ending missions and that doesn't jive my memory at all I'm really lost here lol
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#20 dave123321
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[QUOTE="Socialist696"]I hate when people immediately accuse videogames for such things.... Mass Effect isn't even a violent game compared to almost every other game out there. Its actually a pretty moderate game by my standards considering it contains nothing obscene beyond sex lol

It's a shame. Though wouldn't use mass effects relative level of violence as an argument. Seems to get in the way of what the main discussion should be regarding games in general
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#21 Socialist696
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="Socialist696"]I hate when people immediately accuse videogames for such things.... Mass Effect isn't even a violent game compared to almost every other game out there. Its actually a pretty moderate game by my standards considering it contains nothing obscene beyond sex lol

It's a shame. Though wouldn't use mass effects relative level of violence as an argument. Seems to get in the way of what the main discussion should be regarding games in general

Well games in general are violent, just as society is. Novels, movies, plays, literature of past...all is questionable. But I'm still really confused about that whole Shepard blowing up bus-full of children stuff because I thought I downpacked that game and I've NEVER seen that lol
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Gasping at straws and a scapegoat to avoid accepting that such a tragedy really has no answers and is ultimately unpreventable.
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#23 konvikt_17
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[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="Socialist696"] I must've, do elaborate I don't recall that (seriously).Socialist696
Seriously?

Yes, I only played through it twice....once paragon and once renegade. is it DLC or in the main game? I really don't recall that, I'm not saying you're mistaken I just truely have not seen it lol

he was joking...

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#24 worlock77
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[QUOTE="Socialist696"][QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="Socialist696"] I must've, do elaborate I don't recall that (seriously).

Seriously?

Yes, I only played through it twice....once paragon and once renegade. is it DLC or in the main game? I really don't recall that, I'm not saying you're mistaken I just truely have not seen it lol

To quote EDI: "That was a joke."
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Wow WTF!.Thats all I can say!.

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What's funny is in ME3, Shepard watches just ONE kid die near the beginning and it haunts him for the rest of the game. Fvck people are stupid, blaming a damn game
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#27 konvikt_17
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only reason ME is getting blamed, is because it was one of Ryan Lanza's likes on Facebook.

Ryan wasnt even the killer.

just goes to show how stupid some people can be.

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#28 dave123321
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only reason ME is getting blamed, is because it was one of Ryan Lanza's likes on Facebook.

Ryan wasnt even the killer.

just goes to show how stupid some people can be.

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#29 Bloodseeker23
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Yet GTA was never blamed for anything, when you can drive by and steal cars and all that stuff. Yet Mass Effect? C'mon Media, at least blame with some sense here :lol:
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it's pretty obvious when the news media tries use this as a form of character study, they use it as a barometer as to why a particular homicidal maniac differs from the norm. But more often than not, it only causes there to be misconceptions. And whenever it is brought up, the ignorance on the part of those reporting is made astoundingly clear. But that's what happens when there's so little information about what would lead a person to commit such a heinous act. It leads people, ones that should know better, to make baseless suppositions from inconsequential details of the persons life. Did he have a preference for one fast food chain over the other, did he like My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, and ultraviolent films? why is it when it's known that perpetrators of these types of shootings liked video games, that it's seen as a negative? It could be because, unlike Taken (a movie about a single man shooting his way through France), video games have not yet reached the level of social consciousness and acceptance that films and books have. The amount of utter bullsh!t that is generated when ever people try to rationalize the victims motive with the activity of playing a video game as one of the causal factors that lead to them shooting up a school is beyond measure. Video games do not cause people to go insane, they do not make people turn into gun crazy child murdering psychopaths. They were already fücked in the head, and them playing playing video games is no more of a leading cause for their actions if they happened to be *catholic as well.

as an aside: finding out that someone plays video games offers no better an insight to the motivations of the killer than if it were made known that he liked cheeseburgers without cheese.

*It's funny that when those news stories about the pedophilic priests brake out, christianity is never viewed as the leading cause for their despicable acts.

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#31 koospetoors
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I feel sorry for Ryan though, if they went down that hard on Mass Effect then it must've been much worse for him.

I seriously hope the media gets a huge backlash from this, its beyond pathetic what they did.

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#32 johnd13
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The ignorant still believe that video games lead to extensive violent behavior. Some of the comments reagarding this matter were just disheartening. I' m no longer surprised by people' s stupidity...

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#33 Celldrax
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I lol'd

F*ck me people can be dumb sometimes.

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#35 LLYNCES
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Some people are ignorant dave123321
Humans need to put the blame somewhere, that's just how we are as a species. Clearly blaming the shooter himself would be illogical, it would mean that the shooter was just a normal human being, and that would mean that normal human beings kill each other.

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#36 khatibi22
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This is absurd. A lot people especially young people play video games and almost all other games around are way more brutal and gory than ME. He liked the game? well a couple of million other people like it too but it doesn't give them a reason to go and shot innocent children. Though I must admit violent slaughterous films and games do stimulate aggresive behavior in people IMO. Also, as far as I have read the killer's name was Adam and not Ryan.

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#37 ShadowsDemon
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Video games are the easiest target, so that's what the idiots in society choose to blame.
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#38 SirWander
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Video games are the easiest target, so that's what the idiots in society choose to blame.ShadowsDemon

it's more like a target that a majority of people can disassociate themselves from.

to play the devil's advocate: those bastards from bioware should be forced to drink hemlock for corrupting this poor youth

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:roll:

Of course...

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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]Video games are the easiest target, so that's what the idiots in society choose to blame.SirWander

it's more like a target that a majority of people can disassociate themselves from.

to play the devil's advocate: those bastards from bioware should be forced to drink hemlock for corrupting this poor youth

Yes, how dare they make an adult game for adults! :o
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#41 sexyweapons
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WTF?!?!

Those people have no idea...

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#42 sune_Gem
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One kid dies on all of Mass Effect 3 (It's right at the start, and on the demo, and trailer, so not really a spoiler...) and Shepard feels terrible about it. If anything it's giving off the opposite message.

Then again, I bet all the people complaining haven't seen a console in person outside of the Atari 2600 they owned back in the 80's.

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Eh.....while I don't think any media should be blamed for acts such as this...it would also be silly to say they might not influence individuals with inherent problems. Not that I'm saying that happened in any specific case. But seems that people in here are rushing to judge as well as those that blame the games.

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#44 SirWander
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Eh.....while I don't think any media should be blamed for acts such as this...it would also be silly to say they might not influence individuals with inherent problems. Not that I'm saying that happened in any specific case. But seems that people in here are rushing to judge as well as those that blame the games.

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Media Mess Up Results in Mass Effect Series Blamed for Connecticut Shooting

Sure it might have had an influence on him, as I'm sure many other things did as well. things of greater influence, like his religion.

as there are people directly blaming the developers for the act of one lunatic, mark this as a specific case you can say.

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#45 sune_Gem
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Eh.....while I don't think any media should be blamed for acts such as this...it would also be silly to say they might not influence individuals with inherent problems. Not that I'm saying that happened in any specific case. But seems that people in here are rushing to judge as well as those that blame the games.

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Media Mess Up Results in Mass Effect Series Blamed for Connecticut Shooting

Sure it might have had an influence on him, as I'm sure many other things did as well. things of greater influence, like his religion.

as there are people directly blaming the developers for the act of one lunatic, mark this as a specific case you can say.

The person who liked Mass Effect in the end was the murderers brother, not the murderer himself, was it not?

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#46 SirWander
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The person who liked Mass Effect in the end was the murderers brother, not the murderer himself, was it not?

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I do believe it is, as the murderer's name is Adam Lanza.

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#47 sune_Gem
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[QUOTE="sune_Gem"]

The person who liked Mass Effect in the end was the murderers brother, not the murderer himself, was it not?

SirWander

I do believe it is, as the murderer's name is Adam Lanza.

People just want to pin the blame on something. Even if it means finding the most ludicrous possible reason. They might as well blame gravity for not dragging the bullets to the ground before they hit their mark...

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#48 Kamekazi_69
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So guns are okay to blame but not games? Both should not be. Can't we just accuse the crime commiter for once, and the circumstances that brought on to this.

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#49 SirWander
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So guns are okay to blame but not games? Both should not be. Can't we just accuse the crime commiter for once, and the circumstances that brought on to this.

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well guns are by far a more effective, and efficient, killing tool than a video game you cünt

and yes, the blame should be focused on the bastard that did this, as the guns he used belonged to his mother. it's a moot point to say that gun control laws are inadequate when he stole them in the first place.

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#50 Kamekazi_69
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[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"]

So guns are okay to blame but not games? Both should not be. Can't we just accuse the crime commiter for once, and the circumstances that brought on to this.

SirWander

well guns are by far a more effective, and efficient, killing tool than a video game you cünt

and yes, the blame should be focused on the bastard that did this, as the guns he used belonged to his mother. it's a moot point to say that gun control laws are inadequate when he stole them in the first place.

First of all your childish insults just lowers your quality to form a proper opinion, stop being so belligerent and realize people have different opinions than yours. Secondly, its semantics in the sense that people will find a way to blame around the problem and not the problem itself. I think blaming guns is as ludicrous as blaming video games but someone can still make a statement on how a video game fed into this person's insanity and caused him to snap.