Lostprophets singer pleads GUILTY to child sex charges

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#1 Edited by LostProphetFLCL (16937 posts) -

http://www.metalsucks.net/2013/11/26/former-lostprophets-vocalist-ian-watkins-pleads-guilty-child-sex-charges/

So this story cropped up originally like a year or so ago when the accusations were first made against Ian, but it has been dormant for a while now while the trial was getting set up.

Well after sitting there and denying the accusations for some time, Ian has apparently gone and plead GUILTY to all the charges, which includes one of the most disturbing charges I have ever seen with "two accounts of attempting to rape an 11-month old".

I am kind of surprised that he didn't try and at least fight the charges, not because I thought he was innocent, but because I would have expected a rock-star with some fame and likely some money to use both of those to their full-extent to try and fight the charges.

This is sad considering as how I am (obviously) a fan of the band. I may not be as into them as I once was (that isn't because of the situation though, but just because I went on to explore more and more music) but the band DOES hold a special place in my heart. They came around at the perfect time in my life when I was dealing with alot of shit as a teenager. I had latched onto the band during that time so they have left their mark in my life.

It really sucks to see a musician you had been a fan of turn out to be an absolutely DISGUSTING individual.

Not sure how many other people here were actually fans of the band, but I know this story had been fairly big considering the disgusting accusations that had been made (which it seems were disgustingly TRUE) so I figured I should make a topic about this update in the case.

For those wondering, the band had broken up in response to the accusations some months ago.

I guess it's time now for Ian to cry himself a river now that he has gone and ruined his life.

BTW, anyone else think it is interesting how his time in jail has turned him from being that pretty-boy rockstar to actually LOOKING like a disgusting child predator?

#2 Posted by theothernormal (70 posts) -

Wow. I can honestly say that I won't hear that band the same way again. Sucks for the other members that he put a stain on their image. Hopefully their music careers continue elsewhere.

#3 Posted by MrGeezer (55909 posts) -

Just curious, TC, how does this affect your stance on the band?

What I mean is, this reminds me of the Roman Polanski situation. Some people say, "f*** Roman Polanski movies, I'll never support that child rapist." Whereas other people say, "I agree that Roman Polanski's actions were evil, but I only watch his movies because awesome movies are beneficial to me. As long as his movies continue to be awesome, then I'll continue to enjoy them purely out of self-interest."

So...where do you stand? I'm not placing any judgements here. I understand and sympathize with both points of view. But I'm just curious what your stance is on "separating the art from the artist". Are you still going to continue to enjoy the music despite (one of) the (supposedly main) creators being a despicable human being? Or is it now, like, this $hit is so bad that you can't enjoy anything he had a hand in making? Again, I'm not judging at all, I'm just curious.

#4 Edited by LostProphetFLCL (16937 posts) -

@MrGeezer said:

Just curious, TC, how does this affect your stance on the band?

What I mean is, this reminds me of the Roman Polanski situation. Some people say, "f*** Roman Polanski movies, I'll never support that child rapist." Whereas other people say, "I agree that Roman Polanski's actions were evil, but I only watch his movies because awesome movies are beneficial to me. As long as his movies continue to be awesome, then I'll continue to enjoy them purely out of self-interest."

So...where do you stand? I'm not placing any judgements here. I understand and sympathize with both points of view. But I'm just curious what your stance is on "separating the art from the artist". Are you still going to continue to enjoy the music despite (one of) the (supposedly main) creators being a despicable human being? Or is it now, like, this $hit is so bad that you can't enjoy anything he had a hand in making? Again, I'm not judging at all, I'm just curious.

I don't think it will completely ruin the band for me. It isn't like I had been actively listening to the band lately. They are one of those bands who I might throw their CD in every now and then when the mood is right.

I have no idea how this would have effected me had this happened like 10 years ago when I was HEAVILY into the band (I used to sit there listening to their first two albums over and over and over). I feel like my having kind of fallen away from the band over the years has kept this news from ruining the band for me.

#5 Posted by Capitan_Kid (6509 posts) -

Tc you immediately popped up in my head when I saw this news. I wouldnt even know who these guys are if it wasnt for you lol

#6 Posted by LostProphetFLCL (16937 posts) -

Tc you immediately popped up in my head when I saw this news. I wouldnt even know who these guys are if it wasnt for you lol

Hehe, I figured I was the perfect person to be bringing this news to OT. :P

#8 Edited by worlock77 (22533 posts) -

"It really sucks to see a musician you had been a fan of turn out to be an absolutely DISGUSTING individual."

I've listened to a lot of black metal, so I'm kinda use to that.

#9 Posted by playmynutz (5903 posts) -

LostProphetFLCL is going to hear about this

#10 Posted by hippiesanta (9712 posts) -

"It really sucks to see a musician you had been a fan of turn out to be an absolutely DISGUSTING individual."

I've listened to a lot of black metal, so I'm kinda use to that.

I tought u listen to chinese song ...... base on your avatar

#11 Posted by worlock77 (22533 posts) -

@worlock77 said:

"It really sucks to see a musician you had been a fan of turn out to be an absolutely DISGUSTING individual."

I've listened to a lot of black metal, so I'm kinda use to that.

I tought u listen to chinese song ...... base on your avatar

Good to see some users here aren't getting any brighter.

#12 Posted by sammyjenkis898 (27929 posts) -

Laptop password: "Ifuckkids"

That's fucking disgusting.

#13 Posted by LostProphetFLCL (16937 posts) -

Laptop password: "Ifuckkids"

That's fucking disgusting.

The whole story is very disturbingly disgusting. This makes the whole MJ thing look tame in comparison...

Even more messed up that the kids MOMS who were a part of it to and were essentially trying to whore out their toddler/young children....

#14 Edited by LJS9502_basic (149319 posts) -

@sammyjenkis898 said:

Laptop password: "Ifuckkids"

That's fucking disgusting.

The whole story is very disturbingly disgusting. This makes the whole MJ thing look tame in comparison...

Even more messed up that the kids MOMS who were a part of it to and were essentially trying to whore out their toddler/young children....

Neither is "tame"....

#15 Posted by HuggyBear1020 (445 posts) -

Never heard of them before

#16 Posted by pie-junior (2812 posts) -

great edgy nick choice, in retrospect, though

is this the online equivalent of tattooing 'tina' on your arm?

#17 Posted by Evil_Saluki (4870 posts) -

I remember way back defending him because I thought he hadn't paid some extortion fee somewhere and so they throw the old sex offender trick at him to turn the public/media against him. I read up on the case on BBC news and it seems pretty solid he was a baaaaad apple. Jesus christ, i feel sorry for my friend who brought both their albums.

#18 Posted by sammyjenkis898 (27929 posts) -

@LostProphetFLCL said:

@sammyjenkis898 said:

Laptop password: "Ifuckkids"

That's fucking disgusting.

The whole story is very disturbingly disgusting. This makes the whole MJ thing look tame in comparison...

Even more messed up that the kids MOMS who were a part of it to and were essentially trying to whore out their toddler/young children....

Neither is "tame"....

That's not what he said.

He's right, though.

#19 Edited by SNIPER4321 (10142 posts) -

If he was than Hang him. for justice.

rapists deserve to be publicity hang so that another person can not do it and fear before even thinking.

#20 Posted by GazaAli (22419 posts) -

"Attempting to rape an 11-months old" wtf does that even mean? How could someone go about raping an eleven month old? I get that some people are just fucked up in the head and are disturbed sociopaths, but this makes no sense. Its like wanting to rape the floor.
My guess is that the guy was just trying to come up with the most heinous atrocity that would be of intense shock value. He may have been trying to garner some attention or be relevant and enjoy some fame time, or maybe he was getting bored of his career and celebrityhood and decided to say "fuck it" and leads to the demise of the band and his name. Regardless he was not too clever about the whole thing.

Anyway this is why fandom is a pretty idiotic thing. You pretty much know nothing about all these celebrities except for what they're PR managers want you to know. And even if you truly knew a celebrity, what's in it for you, given how you don't know him/her in person and will probably never do. Why waste you energy and affection for people who are for the most part shitty self-centric people and don't give a damn about you. Just enjoy the leisure/entertainment value they provide you with and fuck the rest.

#21 Posted by Brain_Duster (377 posts) -

fear before even thinking.

Wooooooow.

#22 Posted by AFBrat77 (23975 posts) -

@sammyjenkis898 said:

Laptop password: "Ifuckkids"

That's fucking disgusting.

The whole story is very disturbingly disgusting. This makes the whole MJ thing look tame in comparison...

Even more messed up that the kids MOMS who were a part of it to and were essentially trying to whore out their toddler/young children....

MJ wasn't a pedophile, I'm hardly naive, but MJ was just trying to gain a childhood he never had via the way kids see things. People did and say what they did because of what they could gain from it.

A tragic story of a private person constantly in the public eye from 1st grade on. That combo does not work.

But this story is horrible.

#23 Posted by Regent192 (6700 posts) -

this is just sad

I also like this band's music, but this situation just ruined it for me......

#24 Posted by Ninja-Hippo (23426 posts) -

Such a sad story of hopelessness and tragedy, that a band like Lost Prophets were actually given a record deal.


I mean, come the fuck on. The humanity....

#25 Posted by always_explicit (2578 posts) -

If he was than Hang him. for justice.

rapists deserve to be publicity hang so that another person can not do it and fear before even thinking.

Notice you said he should be hung....you didnt say you would hang him. If your going to vocally support murder have the guts to do it yourself. Dont make society support your ignorance.

The hangman died a long time ago because society evolved and realised that public spectacle of "eye for an eye" retaliation was backwards. If I am correct very few states in the US support the death penalty and it can take many many years for death row inmates to be murdered. I feel just as much disgust as any other man with regards to child abuse, I agree they should be punished swiftly and removed from healthy functioning society. However we cannot simply murder those who do not conform to the norms of society.

#26 Edited by Audacitron (908 posts) -

Baby rape?

The guy sounds like one of the sickest f*cks in the history of sick f*cks.

Their music sounds like crappy nu-metal/emo stuff I would never be into, but I have to say, I feel sorry for his bandmates. He really f*cked them over. Just think of the lost profits!

#27 Posted by Brain_Duster (377 posts) -
#28 Edited by ShadowsDemon (10083 posts) -

That's the most f*cked up things I've ever heard. Ugh.

#29 Posted by worlock77 (22533 posts) -

Baby rape?

The guy sounds like one of the sickest f*cks in the history of sick f*cks.

Their music sounds like crappy nu-metal/emo stuff I would never be into, but I have to say, I feel sorry for his bandmates. He really f*cked them over. Just think of the lost profits!

/thread

#30 Posted by nomsayin (1141 posts) -

If he was than Hang him. for justice.

rapists deserve to be publicity hang so that another person can not do it and fear before even thinking.

lol jankarcop