Lords of Shadow ripped off by Dracula Untold

#1 Edited by alim298 (1102 posts) -

Trailer

Lords of shadow 2 trailer

So what do you guys think about this? I find it to be quite the sacrilege. Lords of Shadow is my favorite video game trilogy and to see it ripped off while the game goes underrated pisses me off. I'm not sure but seeing the vast similarities (and I'm talking about the synopsis not just the screenshots) there's a possibility that Konami file a lawsuit against universal pictures.

Wolves? what do they have to do with dracula?
The knight in shining armor
Dracula had a son?
Not the nosferatu I remember
emm..ok
Fist pumps! Yeah!
Bat transformation. I don't recall Bram intending this.

#2 Edited by SaintLeonidas (25854 posts) -

#3 Posted by foxhound_fox (87327 posts) -

Great?

Lords of Shadow ripped off Shadow of the Colossus and God of War.

#4 Posted by MrGeezer (56019 posts) -

Umm...isn't Dracula public domain? Write Dracula shit if you want, no one can stop you and you don't have to pay any licensing fees to anyone.

Having said that, that doesn't completely erase the possibility of copyright infringement, but most of your complaints seem to be standard genre stuff. Wolves and bats (Konami didn't invent this), spooky castles (Konami didn't invent this), invading armies (Konami didn't invent this), and similar costume designs and photographic/video compositions (Konami did not invent this). If anything, all this shows is that the movie is cliche as shit, which isn't grounds for a lawsuit seeing as how Castlevania is cliche as shit too.

#5 Edited by foxhound_fox (87327 posts) -

@MrGeezer said:

Umm...isn't Dracula public domain? Write Dracula shit if you want, no one can stop you and you don't have to pay any licensing fees to anyone.

Having said that, that doesn't completely erase the possibility of copyright infringement, but most of your complaints seem to be standard genre stuff. Wolves and bats (Konami didn't invent this), spooky castles (Konami didn't invent this), invading armies (Konami didn't invent this), and similar costume designs and photographic/video compositions (Konami did not invent this). If anything, all this shows is that the movie is cliche as shit, which isn't grounds for a lawsuit seeing as how Castlevania is cliche as shit too.

Should replace Konami with MercurySteam, since Konami merely endorsed what they came up with, regardless of how much like Castlevania it actually was. >_>

#6 Posted by indzman (16836 posts) -

Great?

Lords of Shadow ripped off Shadow of the Colossus and God of War.

Shadow of colossus i doubt , God of War and Devil May Cry definately =P

#7 Posted by Pffrbt (6446 posts) -

@indzman said:

@foxhound_fox said:

Great?

Lords of Shadow ripped off Shadow of the Colossus and God of War.

Shadow of colossus i doubt , God of War and Devil May Cry definately =P

It does outright rip-off things from Shadow of the Colossus. And no, not Devil May Cry, because DMC actually has good combat.

#8 Edited by indzman (16836 posts) -

@Pffrbt said:

@indzman said:

@foxhound_fox said:

Great?

Lords of Shadow ripped off Shadow of the Colossus and God of War.

Shadow of colossus i doubt , God of War and Devil May Cry definately =P

It does outright rip-off things from Shadow of the Colossus. And no, not Devil May Cry, because DMC actually has good combat.

How LOS rips from Shadow of colossus ? Do you mean couple of those titan battles where you have to climb the titans and attack weak points in order to defeat em ? Ahhh , yeah only SOTC colossi battles were pure awesome compared to LOS lol.

#9 Posted by Korvus (2797 posts) -

@indzman said:

Shadow of colossus i doubt , God of War and Devil May Cry definately =P

Yep, LOS2's first few hours are almost a direct ripoff from DMC's story...

#10 Edited by alim298 (1102 posts) -

Holy Hell...

Minor spoilers for lords of shadow

It seems that Baba Yaga is in this movie (says IMDb)... THE HELL???

#11 Edited by Pffrbt (6446 posts) -

@indzman said:

How LOS rips from Shadow of colossus ? Do you mean couple of those titan battles where you have to climb the titans and attack weak points in order to defeat em ? Ahhh , yeah only SOTC colossi battles were pure awesome compared to LOS lol.

LOS doing a crappy job doesn't change where they obviously got inspiration from.

#12 Posted by geniobastardo (1294 posts) -

I don't care if it's ripped-off or not. But it'd better be good. And for all the people saying LoS ripped off GoW,DMC and SOTC. Let me remind you ripping off is a part of the industry. Coming up with something completely new isn't this easy. Yea LoS did pick up some ideas from other games ( titan battles from SoTC, some combat mechanics from GoW and where the heck did DMC come in from??), but it was a good game regardless. So don't bother.

#13 Edited by Korvus (2797 posts) -

@geniobastardo said:

I don't care if it's ripped-off or not. But it'd better be good. And for all the people saying LoS ripped off GoW,DMC and SOTC. Let me remind you ripping off is a part of the industry. Coming up with something completely new isn't this easy. Yea LoS did pick up some ideas from other games ( titan battles from SoTC, some combat mechanics from GoW and where the heck did DMC come in from??), but it was a good game regardless. So don't bother.

It's been a while since I've played either but..

First few hours of DMC

You play as a seemingly immortal demon who is tasked by someone from your past who you know will betray you in the end to prevent another badass demon from escaping into this world but to do that you need badass weapons so you get transported into a castle from your past that is destroyed now but in that different reality/dimension is still intact, except it's full of lesser demons. Every now and then you see "ghosts" of your brother as a child and eventually you find a blue weapon that allows you to siphon life from your enemies and a red weapon that increases your damage. Then you learn that your enemy is planning on creating an army by using a research facility to invent something that they will put on energy drinks in order to turn humans into demons.

That's just the first hour of 2 of DMC.

First few hours of LOS2

Exact same thing, but with a little difference in weapons. In DMC the blue weapon is a scythe, in LOS2 it's a sword; in DMC the red weapon is an axe, in LOS2 it's gauntlets (although you also get demonic gauntlets in DMC at a point, later on).

Also, in the castle you see your son, not your brother and they're going to use the new chemical compound in the water supply, not energy drinks.

Even the combat is exactly the same, and I don't mean style, I mean the moves and the input for them. For crying out loud, in your very first battle against a mini boss in LOS2 they specifically tell you to try this one move, which just so happens to be Dante's signature move. That was just shameless. (Back when I noticed the similarities I actually found a YT video where they showed some of Dracula's moves matching moves from Nero (Devil May Cry 4) frame by frame so I guess it wasn't just DMC they took it from)

Also, to conclude, I don't care that it was a ripoff from several games, since they took the good part of each of them, but such an extensive copy was a bit disappointing at the beginning, but it then branched out and because it's own game.

#14 Posted by geniobastardo (1294 posts) -

@korvus said:

@geniobastardo said:

I don't care if it's ripped-off or not. But it'd better be good. And for all the people saying LoS ripped off GoW,DMC and SOTC. Let me remind you ripping off is a part of the industry. Coming up with something completely new isn't this easy. Yea LoS did pick up some ideas from other games ( titan battles from SoTC, some combat mechanics from GoW and where the heck did DMC come in from??), but it was a good game regardless. So don't bother.

It's been a while since I've played either but..

First few hours of DMC

You play as a seemingly immortal demon who is tasked by someone from your past who you know will betray you in the end to prevent another badass demon from escaping into this world but to do that you need badass weapons so you get transported into a castle from your past that is destroyed now but in that different reality/dimension is still intact, except it's full of lesser demons. Every now and then you see "ghosts" of your brother as a child and eventually you find a blue weapon that allows you to siphon life from your enemies and a red weapon that increases your damage. Then you learn that your enemy is planning on creating an army by using a research facility to invent something that they will put on energy drinks in order to turn humans into demons.

That's just the first hour of 2 of DMC.

First few hours of LOS2

Exact same thing, but with a little difference in weapons. In DMC the blue weapon is a scythe, in LOS2 it's a sword; in DMC the red weapon is an axe, in LOS2 it's gauntlets (although you also get demonic gauntlets in DMC at a point, later on).

Also, in the castle you see your son, not your brother and they're going to use the new chemical compound in the water supply, not energy drinks.

Even the combat is exactly the same, and I don't mean style, I mean the moves and the input for them. For crying out loud, in your very first battle against a mini boss in LOS2 they specifically tell you to try this one move, which just so happens to be Dante's signature move. That was just shameless. (Back when I noticed the similarities I actually found a YT video where they showed some of Dracula's moves matching moves from Nero (Devil May Cry 4) frame by frame so I guess it wasn't just DMC they took it from)

Also, to conclude, I don't care that it was a ripoff from several games, since they took the good part of each of them, but such an extensive copy was a bit disappointing at the beginning, but it then branched out and because it's own game.

hmm I didn't noticed that. (btw why the heck I didn't get a notification for this??! GLITCHSPOT!!)

Anyways, Dracula's move doesn't match Nero's. I've played both games and both have different feelings to them. You'll have to play to notice.

#15 Posted by airshocker (28710 posts) -

TC, now that you're older I think it's time I tell you what your parents couldn't: There's no such thing as an original idea.

#16 Edited by alim298 (1102 posts) -

@airshocker said:

There's no such thing as an original idea.

I agree to some extend especially when it comes to dracula. A sensitive passionate dracula who loves to have a family isn't exactly a new idea. But if you have read my last post there's someone among the cast for this movie that I personally never knew of prior to playing LoS. It can't be a coincidence.

#17 Posted by airshocker (28710 posts) -

@alim298 said:

@airshocker said:

There's no such thing as an original idea.

I agree to some extend especially when it comes to dracula. A sensitive passionate dracula who loves to have a family isn't exactly a new idea. But if you have read my last post there's someone among the cast for this movie that I personally never knew of prior to playing LoS. It can't be a coincidence.

It doesn't matter if it isn't a coincidence. You can write your own Dracula script and try and get it made into a movie, and so long as you don't copy any thing without permission, you'd be golden.

#18 Edited by uninspiredcup (7515 posts) -

Terminator was a ripoff. Does anyone care?
Avatar? Sexy cat womens? Done in the 80's.

#19 Posted by foxhound_fox (87327 posts) -

Let me remind you ripping off is a part of the industry.

Maybe for second rate developers like MercurySteam.

#20 Posted by uninspiredcup (7515 posts) -

@geniobastardo said:

Let me remind you ripping off is a part of the industry.

Maybe for second rate developers like MercurySteam.

Valve - 1984/war of the worlds

Naughty Dog - Outright plagiarizing Helen Mirron and Elly Page, Indiana Jones e.t.c.....

Every fantasy game ever - Lord Of The Rings

He's right. Most, good or bad are either "inspired" or outright ripping off stuff.

#21 Posted by geniobastardo (1294 posts) -

@geniobastardo said:

Let me remind you ripping off is a part of the industry.

Maybe for second rate developers like MercurySteam.

Is Uncharted original?
Is Assassin's Creed original?
Is Call of Duty original?
Ok, those were mainstream.
Is Path of Exile original?
Is Diable original?
Is The Witcher series original?

NO! the word 'originality' is a rare one. What seems to be original is under-the-skin a ripped off thingy. Either we just totally ignore the 'ripped off' part in a game or just don't bother with it and enjoy our game, only then will we feel games to be 'original'.

#22 Posted by -ParaNormaN- (705 posts) -

Before saying that LOS ripped GOW, maybe we should take into consideration that GOW has set the new standard for modern Hack n Slash games. Heavenly Sword and Dante's Inferno follow the same formula and are sick games. Remember when Double Dragon set the standard for beat em ups and spawned hundreds of clone games for generations? Please stop pretending that GOW didn't change the playing field.