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#1  Edited By alim298
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Below is a table of the battles that took place when our prophet was still alive. Number of total causalities (on both sides) has been gathered from five different historical sources. I saw the table in a book written in my native language. There's also a Wikipedia link. They're more or less the same except for those none important battles that are not worth mentioning yet funnily enough when you search the Wikipedia for them the number of causalities is marked as "MANY" which probably means ten died or something like that.

Now as you can see the total number of causalities in battles which were ordered by our prophet is a mere 1300. I wonder how that holds up against the total number of causalities in Iraq and Afghanistan yet U.S is THE peace maker and Islam is the bad guy. All the time I see people saying that Islam has spread by sword. That it is a religion of war and that our prophet wanted land and fame. What say you? Did you already know about this or you much like me thought at least a hundred thousand were killed in Arabia in that period?

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#2  Edited By indzman
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TC no one cares about Islam or other minority religions as Hinduism ETC ( Myself being a Hindu ) on OT , whenever you make a islam compassion thread you are going to get negetive opinion lol. Just a fair warning =P

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#3  Edited By th3warr1or
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I find it interesting that the single largest slaughter of people, which accounts for more than half the people killed by Muhammad, was against the Banu Qurayza -- Jews.

By the way, all is fair is love and war, so I'm not making any judgment of morality, etc, either way. Just an interesting observation.

On topic, I don't think that many people who say that Islam was spread by the sword, specifically blame Muhammad. Islam's peak wasn't reached during Muhammad's lifetime.

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hmmm... so many attack and raid by those group......

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#5 alim298
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@indzman said:

TC no one cares about Islam or other minority religions as Hinduism ETC ( Myself being a Hindu ) on OT , whenever you make a islam compassion thread you are going to get negetive opinion lol. Just a fair warning =P

Yeah I already know man. Although back in the days there were quite a few Muslims around... Anyways I just thought I take this off of my chest.

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#6  Edited By Nengo_Flow
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yeah............. aint nobody cares about any of that.

And I regard Islam higher than even other religion, and like studying it. BUT seriously.... making these types of statements just make people hate on Islam more. And think to your self, why does any of that matter and who will give a crap?

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@indzman said:

TC no one cares about Islam or other minority religions as Hinduism ETC ( Myself being a Hindu ) on OT , whenever you make a islam compassion thread you are going to get negetive opinion lol. Just a fair warning =P

There are almost a billion Hindus. I don't consider that a minority.

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#8  Edited By alim298
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@Nengo_Flow said:

yeah............. aint nobody cares about any of that.

And I regard Islam higher than even other religion, and like studying it. BUT seriously.... making these types of statements just make people hate on Islam more. And think to your self, why does any of that matter and who will give a crap?

I don't understand. Why would this make people hate Islam more? Please tell.

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#9  Edited By indzman
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@alim298 said:

@indzman said:

TC no one cares about Islam or other minority religions as Hinduism ETC ( Myself being a Hindu ) on OT , whenever you make a islam compassion thread you are going to get negetive opinion lol. Just a fair warning =P

Yeah I already know man. Although back in the days there were quite a few Muslims around... Anyways I just thought I take this off of my chest.

There r still may users around Gaza, GrayFox, Sniper and many others. I understand you man , its all good:)

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@th3warr1or said:

@indzman said:

TC no one cares about Islam or other minority religions as Hinduism ETC ( Myself being a Hindu ) on OT , whenever you make a islam compassion thread you are going to get negetive opinion lol. Just a fair warning =P

There are almost a billion Hindus. I don't consider that a minority.

HaHa yeah , unfortunately this religion is not much well known to rest part of the world or spread around the world as islam , christianity , jews.

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The founder of the "religion of peace" ordered the deaths of 1300 people?

Um... were you trying to soften our view of an incredibly violent religion? Because I don't think you are helping your cause.

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#12  Edited By alim298
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@foxhound_fox said:

The founder of the "religion of peace" ordered the deaths of 1300 people?

self defense and for the sake of peace.

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#13  Edited By mjorh
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It's my religion and it does make sense to defend it but seriously no one cares ! no one gives a shit ......don't bother man .

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How do u explain people who strap bombs to their chest and walk or drive into busy areas ?

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@alim298 said:

Below is a table of the battles that took place when our prophet was still alive. Number of total causalities (on both sides) has been gathered from five different historical sources. I saw the table in a book written in my native language. There's also a Wikipedia link. They're more or less the same except for those none important battles that are not worth mentioning yet funnily enough when you search the Wikipedia for them the number of causalities is marked as "MANY" which probably means ten died or something like that.

Now as you can see the total number of causalities in battles which were ordered by our prophet is a mere 1300. I wonder how that holds up against the total number of causalities in Iraq and Afghanistan yet U.S is THE peace maker and Islam is the bad guy. All the time I see people saying that Islam has spread by sword. That it is a religion of war and that our prophet wanted land and fame. What say you? Did you already know about this or you much like me thought at least a hundred thousand were killed in Arabia in that period?

Don't bother. You are just baiting the islamaphobes.

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#16  Edited By alim298
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@AutoPilotOn said:

How do u explain people who strap bombs to their chest and walk or drive into busy areas ?

Not our prophet's fault. That's all I'm saying. Nothing more nothing less.

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#17 AutoPilotOn
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@alim298: what about intolerance to women being anymore to a slave to men?

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#18  Edited By alim298
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@helwa1988: Yeah gonna lock it

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#19  Edited By alim298
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Please lock this

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@AutoPilotOn said:

@alim298: what about intolerance to women being anymore to a slave to men?

not his prophet's fault. lol

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#21  Edited By foxhound_fox
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@alim298 said:

@foxhound_fox said:

The founder of the "religion of peace" ordered the deaths of 1300 people?

self defense and for the sake of peace.

"Violence for the sake of peace" is an oxymoron. Gandhi achieved his goals without lifting a single hand in anger. He fought for the independence of over a billion people by walking and fasting. Peace can never be achieved through violence.

At least man up and accept what your religion has done, and don't try to sugar coat it. The history of Islam is incredibly violent, and it wouldn't have existed without it. Seems kind of counter-productive to deny history.