Jesus Was A Muslim Who Practiced Islam

Source. Wait, what? I am following the discussion here and there, but...

Jesus was a socialist hippie.

Yes according to Islam Jesus was the messiah.

@Hexagon_777: That would be hilarious if this can be proven

joke or insanely stupid?

Islam says IIRC that both Jesus and Moses were Muslims, they just "got it wrong".

I sincerely hope joke, I lost brain cells watching that video..

Muslim and Islam are derived from the verb sa-la-ma, which literally translates to "to concede". When we say that Jesus and Moses were Muslims, we mean that they too conceded to God and his will, not that they followed Islam the creed. It's based on that rationale that we call all prophets and followers all the way from Adam Muslims. In the Quran, it is said that Abraham was the one who called us Muslims.

It's like saying everyone is an American because everyone in every country has a government that governs them.

... Not to mention that it is backwards logic.. By their very logic you can say Mohammad was a Christian (or that by that regard every Christian and Muslim is a Jew, because Judaism is the oldest of the three) because they all share certain practices.

@Renevent42: so true.

Hold on a sec there, then which prophet was Christian?

Some have argued that Jesus was a Buddhist or at least influenced by Buddhist teachings. Some scholars doubt he existed at all so saying he was a muslim is just more vittles for the pot.

Well I think it would be more believable to say that he read many of the Greek philosophers.. Socrates, Aristotle and Plato thoughts and writings (well the later two) share many common themes and ideals and they conveyed them a few centuries before the birth of Christ.

you mean joshua?

the guy that had his name arbitrarily changed because translators fucked it up?

lol islam is the youngest of the big three religions those people have no idea about Abraham's faith with God

Jesus =Holy Ghost manifested as a man

to die because of the disobedience state man was in because the garden of eden

Holy Ghost = Jehovah the God that talked and made covenant with Abraham

christianity just means followers of christ until western(gentiles) world messed up the true nature of following Yahushua(Jesus) which means I AM Salvation.

in a nutshell if you follow Jesus's path your saved from the World system(mystery babylon) i.e world government

There wasn't a Christian prophet. Jesus was a Jew and Jewish prophet. The early Christians started out as just another Jewish sect. I wasn't until years after Jesus' death that the Jewish hierarchy ultimately condemned and ostracized the followers of Christ, only then did Christianity become an entirely separate religion from Judaism.

jesus didnt practice any religion because religions are man's creation. jesus didnt want you to worship him he wanted you to be like him.

um, not sure if serious. Jesus was a devote Jew. He went to temple services and celebrated the sabbath. He most certainly practiced Judaism, at least according to any scriptural evidence we have about him.

Oh. I thought he was Jewish. Anyways it's not like I care. And, for all intents and purposes, it's not like the Messiah, whether you believe or not, being of a different Abrahamic religion is going to make him/her any more/less a good person.

Jesus is worshipped and all of a sudden a change of religion is going to, what, make him a terrorist? Please.

Pretty dumb

What themes and ideals did Socrates/Plato and Jesus share in common?

But Islam does not exist at that time...

Jesus grew up in a poor village called Nazareth as a common carpenter.

He more than likely had no formal education, as most people raised in trade families didn't at that time, and couldn't read at all.

Most of his Education, if he had any, was passed down orally.

Historically Muslims and Islam did not exist in the time period.....so no.

Still, what does that have to do with the point he made and the question I asked in return?

I remain very interested in knowing what ideals and themes Jesus shared with Plato or Socrates.

To clarify: Islam is an Abrahamic religion, so this is a natural thought-process.

Christianity sees itself as the correct extension of Judaism, where the Messiah (Jesus) appeared on earth, and asked for Jews to follow him. Jews reject this claim.

Islam sees itself as the correct (more like a correction, in order to be specific) extension of Christianity, and thus in turn, is an extension to Judaism as well.

Islam corrects what it believes to be the wrong view that Jesus was a God, and state that he was merely the prophesied Messiah. It also condemns Judaism for crucifying him.

This is the basic gist of things, and why they sprung from each other. It goes in this order (from left to right):

Judaism > Christianity > Islam

- Judaism foretold a Messiah

- Christianity showed said Messiah, made him God

- Islam came to say there's only one God in existence and essence, instead of three.

Honestly, I've known this since I was a kid. Is it really that big of a deal? It just makes sense that Muslims would think this way..

PS: don't quote me to debate religion, I'm just explaining stuff. lol

Towards the beginning of His ministry, Jesus read from a scroll of Isaiah, and later on when some people wanted to stone the adultress, Jesus was writing on the ground.

@ferrari2001: And even today there are Messianic Jews who are basically Jewish Christians, mostly Evangelical Christians. And the former archbishop of Paris, Cardinal Lustiger converted from Judaism, and he said that he didn't see believing in Christ as being a rejection of his Judaism, he viewed it as fulfilling his Judaism. Certainly in many of St. Paul's epistles and in most of the Gospels, Christian belief is present as being the logical fulfillment of Judaism.

@toast_burner: So if Muslims believe that Jesus is the Messiah, then Mohammad would have believed that too, so would that make Mohammad a Christian? Also I am kind of confused, because it seems that Muslims accept Jesus as Messiah, and say that Mohammad is not the Messiah, yet they also view Mohammad as the greatest prophet, so according to Muslims, who is more important, Mohammad or Jesus?

@br0kenrabbit:socialism and hippies came way after Jesus, so Jesus would have influenced them, not the other way around. There are some similarities between socialists and hippies and Jesus's teachings, but there are also many differences.

Jesus was a liberal.

One correction is that Islam condemns the sons of Israel for attempting to crucify Jesus Christ; Islam rejects the claim that Jesus was actually crucified.

watched some of the video

made it to "god says in the qur'an"

that was my cue to check out

Also I think it's worth noting that Islam doesn't consider itself an "extension" of Christianity. In fact the text of Islam has much more in common with Judaism than Christianity and according to this verse Judaism is closer to believing and Christianity is closer to shirk:

[surely those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabeans and the Christians and the Magians and those who associate (others with God)-- surely God will decide between them on the day of resurrection; surely God is a witness over all things]

Notice how Jews are mentioned just after the believers and that Christians and Magians (who respectively claim God is three and there are two gods) are mentioned later.

Islam is basically the correct version of the one religion that is called Islam. Maybe it doesn't make sense saying it but that's just how it is.

Messiah has a somewhat unknown definition in Islam. That's why many Muslim scholars view the title "Messiah" as an exclusive title for Jesus. In Judaism Messiah means savior so following that line of thinking many others including Muhammad and the promised Al-Mahdi can also be considered Messiahs. But only in the literal sense meaning that they are saviors not that they are Messiah because there simply was only one Messiah and that was Jesus.

Mainstream Muslims favor Muhammad over Jesus but that is wrong. Here's a verse from Quran explicitly prohibiting favoring one prophet over another:

[say: 'we believe in God and that which is sent down to us, and in what was sent down to abraham, ishmael, isaac, jacob, and the tribes; to moses and jesus and the prophets from their lord. we do not differentiate between any of them, and to him we are submissive (muslims). ']

Some Muslim scholars even believe that the greatest prophet of God was Abraham. Here are verses that could be used as proof:

[then, we revealed to you: 'follow the creed of abraham, he of pure faith, he was not among the idolaters. ']

[say: 'my lord has guided me to a straight path, an upright religion, the creed of abraham, he was upright, not from the idolaters. ']

[surely, the people who are nearest to abraham are those who followed him, and this prophet (muhammad), and those who believe. God is the guardian of the believers.]

I did say it was more of a correction than an extension. Though, I was explaining in layman terms, and I probably should have clarified that Islam condemns the attempt, and not the actual event, since in Islam's view, that was someone else that looked like him.

@alim298: interesting thanks for the explanation.

Jesus was a Buddhist who lived like a pagan and worshiped Richard Dawkins.

@whipassmt: No problem.

@fize4ever: OK then.

Jesus was Jewish.

abrahamic religions are hypocritical they share similar views has some of the same prophet, believe in the same god,pray for the same god and yet they masssacre each other because they disagred over a few interpretations difference,and no this is not bashing a specific religion nor a hateful comment