Israeli Airstrike in Gaza Kills Top Hamas Military Commander

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#201 Posted by Treflis (11522 posts) -
[QUOTE="Treflis"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Israel could level the Gaza Strip if they wanted to.....

th3warr1or
Then one day in the future they just might get ballsy enough to do so.

Only if backed into a corner, with nothing to lose.

And if provoked enough, right?
#202 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -
[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Treflis"]Then one day in the future they just might get ballsy enough to do so.Treflis
Only if backed into a corner, with nothing to lose.

And if provoked enough, right?

I really don't think so, no. That WILL result in a repeat of 1973.
#203 Posted by Storm_Marine (10863 posts) -

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="Treflis"]One of two things will happen down there sometime in the future. Either they stop fighting cause they're tired of it and work to live together in peace as good as they can, Which I doubt. Or one of them completely annihilates the other when they get enough firepower to do so.th3warr1or

Israel could level the Gaza Strip if they wanted to.....

In this instance, other side includes the whole Mid-East.

a Israeli nuclear first strike could destroy most major cities in the Middle East.

#204 Posted by Stesilaus (3317 posts) -

[QUOTE="DrPickle"]

Out of topic but I'd love to have a threesome with both a hot Arab and a hot Jewish girl.

That would totally make my day.

themajormayor

I did 50% of that once

You were part of 50% of a threesome? :shock:

I don't know what you did with her, but you seem to have made her happy ...

WomanUpperTorso.jpg

#205 Posted by Treflis (11522 posts) -
[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Treflis"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"] Only if backed into a corner, with nothing to lose.

And if provoked enough, right?

I really don't think so, no. That WILL result in a repeat of 1973.

Perhaps. Still think things will get worse, hope they don't though.
#206 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -
[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Treflis"]And if provoked enough, right?Treflis
I really don't think so, no. That WILL result in a repeat of 1973.

Perhaps. Still think things will get worse, hope they don't though.

Well, if anything is certain, it's that things are going to get a hell of a lot worse before they get any better.
#207 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Israel could level the Gaza Strip if they wanted to.....

Storm_Marine

In this instance, other side includes the whole Mid-East.

a Israeli nuclear first strike could destroy most major cities in the Middle East.

If anything can get the Shias and Sunnis to work together to attempt to annihilate Israel, that will.

#208 Posted by Darkman2007 (17929 posts) -
[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Treflis"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"] I really don't think so, no. That WILL result in a repeat of 1973.

Perhaps. Still think things will get worse, hope they don't though.

Well, if anything is certain, it's that things are going to get a hell of a lot worse before they get any better.

we now see a tunnel , at the end of a light. thats probably about right
#209 Posted by Treflis (11522 posts) -
[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Treflis"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"] I really don't think so, no. That WILL result in a repeat of 1973.

Perhaps. Still think things will get worse, hope they don't though.

Well, if anything is certain, it's that things are going to get a hell of a lot worse before they get any better.

Now that, Is true with a capital T
#210 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Treflis"]Perhaps. Still think things will get worse, hope they don't though.Darkman2007
Well, if anything is certain, it's that things are going to get a hell of a lot worse before they get any better.

we now see a tunnel , at the end of a light. thats probably about right

Was the rhyming intentional? :P

#211 Posted by Darkman2007 (17929 posts) -

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"] Well, if anything is certain, it's that things are going to get a hell of a lot worse before they get any better. th3warr1or

we now see a tunnel , at the end of a light. thats probably about right

Was the rhyming intentional? :P

indeed it was.
#212 Posted by sherman-tank1 (8124 posts) -

The way I see is that the only ways this will end is when Islamic militants have their income cut when oil becomes replaced or runs out and make peace when they realize they do not have the funds to continue the war or one side comes out completely victorious through means of atomic warfare. Unfortunately I see the second option more likely, if Israel has it backs against the wall they will not hestitate to use nukes and if a country such as Iran gets nuke and gets a leader with the balls to use them. The Palestinian-Israel conflict is so much more than just those two countries.

#213 Posted by GazaAli (22692 posts) -

The way I see is that the only ways this will end is when Islamic militants have their income cut when oil becomes replaced or runs out and make peace when they realize they do not have the funds to continue the war or one side comes out completely victorious through means of atomic warfare. Unfortunately I see the second option more likely, if Israel has it backs against the wall they will not hestitate to use nukes and if a country such as Iran gets nuke and gets a leader with the balls to use them. The Palestinian-Israel conflict is so much more than just those two countries.

sherman-tank1
I don't think "Islamic militants" have anything to do with oil.
#214 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

The way I see is that the only ways this will end is when Islamic militants have their income cut when oil becomes replaced or runs out and make peace when they realize they do not have the funds to continue the war or one side comes out completely victorious through means of atomic warfare. Unfortunately I see the second option more likely, if Israel has it backs against the wall they will not hestitate to use nukes and if a country such as Iran gets nuke and gets a leader with the balls to use them. The Palestinian-Israel conflict is so much more than just those two countries.

sherman-tank1
In other words, either Israel or the rest of the Middle East with war-waging capacities gets obliterated.
#215 Posted by wis3boi (31294 posts) -

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

The way I see is that the only ways this will end is when Islamic militants have their income cut when oil becomes replaced or runs out and make peace when they realize they do not have the funds to continue the war or one side comes out completely victorious through means of atomic warfare. Unfortunately I see the second option more likely, if Israel has it backs against the wall they will not hestitate to use nukes and if a country such as Iran gets nuke and gets a leader with the balls to use them. The Palestinian-Israel conflict is so much more than just those two countries.

GazaAli

I don't think "Islamic militants" have anything to do with oil.

Somebody's gotta fuel your armor division!

Chadian_soldiers_in_Toyota_pickup_truck.

#216 Posted by sherman-tank1 (8124 posts) -

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

The way I see is that the only ways this will end is when Islamic militants have their income cut when oil becomes replaced or runs out and make peace when they realize they do not have the funds to continue the war or one side comes out completely victorious through means of atomic warfare. Unfortunately I see the second option more likely, if Israel has it backs against the wall they will not hestitate to use nukes and if a country such as Iran gets nuke and gets a leader with the balls to use them. The Palestinian-Israel conflict is so much more than just those two countries.

GazaAli

I don't think "Islamic militants" have anything to do with oil.

Countries such as Iran and Syria fund Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. Oil is an important resource to a country such as Iran.

#217 Posted by GazaAli (22692 posts) -
[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

The way I see is that the only ways this will end is when Islamic militants have their income cut when oil becomes replaced or runs out and make peace when they realize they do not have the funds to continue the war or one side comes out completely victorious through means of atomic warfare. Unfortunately I see the second option more likely, if Israel has it backs against the wall they will not hestitate to use nukes and if a country such as Iran gets nuke and gets a leader with the balls to use them. The Palestinian-Israel conflict is so much more than just those two countries.

th3warr1or
In other words, either Israel or the rest of the Middle East with war-waging capacities gets obliterated.

War-waging capabilities can always get renewed, which means, by your logic, it is the obliteration of either demography that would end the conflict.
#218 Posted by GazaAli (22692 posts) -

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

The way I see is that the only ways this will end is when Islamic militants have their income cut when oil becomes replaced or runs out and make peace when they realize they do not have the funds to continue the war or one side comes out completely victorious through means of atomic warfare. Unfortunately I see the second option more likely, if Israel has it backs against the wall they will not hestitate to use nukes and if a country such as Iran gets nuke and gets a leader with the balls to use them. The Palestinian-Israel conflict is so much more than just those two countries.

sherman-tank1

I don't think "Islamic militants" have anything to do with oil.

Countries such as Iran and Syria fund Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. Oil is an important resource to a country such as Iran.

Yea but its not like gulf countries are supporting these people, which where the real oil is.
#219 Posted by sherman-tank1 (8124 posts) -

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

The way I see is that the only ways this will end is when Islamic militants have their income cut when oil becomes replaced or runs out and make peace when they realize they do not have the funds to continue the war or one side comes out completely victorious through means of atomic warfare. Unfortunately I see the second option more likely, if Israel has it backs against the wall they will not hestitate to use nukes and if a country such as Iran gets nuke and gets a leader with the balls to use them. The Palestinian-Israel conflict is so much more than just those two countries.

th3warr1or

In other words, either Israel or the rest of the Middle East with war-waging capacities gets obliterated.

Yes. Now that Egypt is no longer pro-Israel, it will become much more dangerous. In my opinion also, I don't want people to think that I'm saying this is what is going to happen, just very likely.

#220 Posted by Darkman2007 (17929 posts) -
[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="GazaAli"] I don't think "Islamic militants" have anything to do with oil.GazaAli

Countries such as Iran and Syria fund Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. Oil is an important resource to a country such as Iran.

Yea but its not like gulf countries are supporting these people, which where the real oil is.

didn't Qatar just give Hamas a quarter of a billion dollars, when the Emir visited?
#222 Posted by sherman-tank1 (8124 posts) -

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="GazaAli"] I don't think "Islamic militants" have anything to do with oil.GazaAli

Countries such as Iran and Syria fund Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. Oil is an important resource to a country such as Iran.

Yea but its not like gulf countries are supporting these people, which where the real oil is.

I'm trying to say Iran gets a large profit from oil, so they are able to support organizations such as Hamas. Once they run out of oil, they won't be able to give them as much. It doesn't matter how much oil the gulf countries have. Plus I'm sure some gulf states give Hamas money.

#223 Posted by dangamit (628 posts) -

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]Countries such as Iran and Syria fund Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. Oil is an important resource to a country such as Iran.

sherman-tank1

Yea but its not like gulf countries are supporting these people, which where the real oil is.

I'm trying to say Iran gets a large profit from oil, so they are able to support organizations such as Hamas. Once they run out of oil, they won't be able to give them as much. It doesn't matter how much oil the gulf countries have. Plus I'm sure some gulf states give Hamas money.

*facepalm*
#224 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

The way I see is that the only ways this will end is when Islamic militants have their income cut when oil becomes replaced or runs out and make peace when they realize they do not have the funds to continue the war or one side comes out completely victorious through means of atomic warfare. Unfortunately I see the second option more likely, if Israel has it backs against the wall they will not hestitate to use nukes and if a country such as Iran gets nuke and gets a leader with the balls to use them. The Palestinian-Israel conflict is so much more than just those two countries.

GazaAli

In other words, either Israel or the rest of the Middle East with war-waging capacities gets obliterated.

War-waging capabilities can always get renewed, which means, by your logic, it is the obliteration of either demography that would end the conflict.

That's what I said.

Israel obviously has war-waging capacity. I don't know that much about the other Arab states, so I just used a not-so-general generalization, in that the conflict would end when one side has been destroyed, at least to the extent where it can no longer fight (i.e., Japan after WW2).

And frankly speaking, if Israel were ever to be in that state, there'd be no more Israel.

#225 Posted by GazaAli (22692 posts) -
[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]Countries such as Iran and Syria fund Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. Oil is an important resource to a country such as Iran.Darkman2007
Yea but its not like gulf countries are supporting these people, which where the real oil is.

didn't Qatar just give Hamas a quarter of a billion dollars, when the Emir visited?

Those are for infrastructure and some economic recovery stuff. Qatar is the U.S's b!tch, they do not do anything without being told to. Like really, Qatar is such a puny sh!tty country, how come all of a sudden its trying to be a major player in regional and international politics?
#226 Posted by sonicare (53465 posts) -

I bet you space aliens are watching us and thinking what a bunch of bloodthirsty morons we are all. In fact, I'm pretty certain I saw them on the moon's surface.

#227 Posted by Darkman2007 (17929 posts) -
[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="GazaAli"] Yea but its not like gulf countries are supporting these people, which where the real oil is.

didn't Qatar just give Hamas a quarter of a billion dollars, when the Emir visited?

Those are for infrastructure and some economic recovery stuff. Qatar is the U.S's b!tch, they do not do anything without being told to. Like really, Qatar is such a puny sh!tty country, how come all of a sudden its trying to be a major player in regional and international politics?

because I think that right now, there is no real leader in the Arab world, the closest thing is the King of Saudia. Qatar is a tiny country, but they have one asset that gets them more power than one would initially think , and thats Al Jazeera. Al Jazeera gives them alot of influence over the Arab world, it was a catalyst of the Arab revolts, the combination of money (the Qataris are swimming in it , and are buying things with it too), means I don't think they are that weak. thing with Qatar though, is that they tend to play a double game, on the one hand , they are allies of the US , while on the other they allowed the Taliban to open a political office, they support the Syrian rebels (alot of Islamists there), and prefer Hamas over Fatah, as they more or less snubbed them I think its clever though , they are trying to be on good terms with both the west, thats the way I see it anyways.
#228 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

I bet you space aliens are watching us and thinking what a bunch of bloodthirsty morons we are all. In fact, I'm pretty certain I saw them on the moon's surface.

sonicare
Well then they'd probably be hypocrites. Just because they've moved out of their warring phase doesn't mean they never had one. :P
#229 Posted by ShadowMoses900 (17081 posts) -

This is great news! A victory for Israel is a victory for the world.

One day Hamas and Hezbolla will be wiped off this planet for good. It's only a matter of time, their days of terror and savage brutality are numbered.

#230 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

This is great news! A victory for Israel is a victory for the world.

One day Hamas and Hezbolla will be wiped off this planet for good. It's only a matter of time, their days of terror and savage brutality are numbered.

ShadowMoses900
IY"H.
#231 Posted by HugoStiglitz03 (15 posts) -

I'm trying to be respectful. If you want to spread zionist lies then go to a different forum.

#232 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

I'm trying to be respectful. If you want to spread zionist lies then go to a different forum.

HugoStiglitz03
What?
#233 Posted by HugoStiglitz03 (15 posts) -

Israel is a false country.

#234 Posted by Abbeten (2811 posts) -
eh?
#235 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

Israel is a false country.

HugoStiglitz03
:lol:
#236 Posted by Allthishate (1876 posts) -
[QUOTE="HugoStiglitz03"]

Israel is a false country.

th3warr1or
:lol:

Well he has a point sooner or later it will be wiped off the map...
#237 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="HugoStiglitz03"]

Israel is a false country.

Allthishate

:lol:

Well he has a point sooner or later it will be wiped off the map...

Of one thing you can be certain. When that day comes, Israel will nuke a lot of Middle Eastern nations.

#238 Posted by ShadowMoses900 (17081 posts) -

I'm trying to be respectful. If you want to spread zionist lies then go to a different forum.

HugoStiglitz03

Zionist lies? Are you high? And Israel is a legit country, it has every right to exist whether you like it or not.

A word of caution, don't go around talking like that because Jews will assume you hate them.

#239 Posted by sherman-tank1 (8124 posts) -

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="GazaAli"] Yea but its not like gulf countries are supporting these people, which where the real oil is.dangamit

I'm trying to say Iran gets a large profit from oil, so they are able to support organizations such as Hamas. Once they run out of oil, they won't be able to give them as much. It doesn't matter how much oil the gulf countries have. Plus I'm sure some gulf states give Hamas money.

*facepalm*

What? It is a valid point.

#240 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

[QUOTE="dangamit"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]I'm trying to say Iran gets a large profit from oil, so they are able to support organizations such as Hamas. Once they run out of oil, they won't be able to give them as much. It doesn't matter how much oil the gulf countries have. Plus I'm sure some gulf states give Hamas money.

sherman-tank1

*facepalm*

What? It is a valid point.

Note that he didn't debunk it.
#241 Posted by HugoStiglitz03 (15 posts) -
Right because when the Israelis kill innocent people it's fine but when the Palestinian people try to actually get running water it's terrorism.
#242 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

Right because when the Israelis kill innocent people it's fine but when the Palestinian people try to actually get running water it's terrorism.HugoStiglitz03

Says whom?

Nobody is calling "Palestinians" terrorists. I don't see anyone in this thread calling GazaAli a terrorist.

And that is such a pathetic one-sided hyperbole it's not even funny.

#243 Posted by themajormayor (25760 posts) -

[QUOTE="HugoStiglitz03"]Right because when the Israelis kill innocent people it's fine but when the Palestinian people try to actually get running water it's terrorism.th3warr1or

I don't see anyone in this thread calling GazaAli a terrorist.

It goes without saying

#244 Posted by cslayer211 (833 posts) -
#245 Posted by HugoStiglitz03 (15 posts) -
obviously you're calling them terrorists when you're supporting pro-israel airstrikes.
#246 Posted by thebest31406 (3360 posts) -

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] wait, you care what Ghandi said? but he was a Hindu , ie , he worshipeed idols :P how could a self respecting Islamist care what an idol worshipper thinks :P what next? youre going to listen to us Jews? we have a lot to teach you actually.Darkman2007

he also believed in 1 God, you know nothing about Ghandi, and if he was here today, he would see you as a complete fool just as those who did not believe what he thinks of Palestine.

he was a Hindu , you can't avoid that Im afraid. although since we are talking about people who support things, Martin Luther King and Churchill supported the Jews, so yeah , it goes both ways. I know youre upset because the Jews beat you , but getting upset is not the way to go , I suggest a good hobby , like golf or stamp collecting

MLK told a student before he died When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism. He never elaborated on the statement. Now we can argue back and forth on what he meant, but I can only conclude that he meant Zionism in its textbook definition. From that standpoint, it is true; to say that Jews don't deserve a nation like everyone else is anti-Semitic. Saying that, it would be extremely disingenuous and downright perverse to suggests that Martin Luther King, the man who died fighting for justice, freedom, human dignity and nonviolence; who condemned the US atrocities in Indochina, Latin America and the US support toward apartheid South Africa, would turn around make an exception for Israel's actions.

#247 Posted by themajormayor (25760 posts) -
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] he also believed in 1 God, you know nothing about Ghandi, and if he was here today, he would see you as a complete fool just as those who did not believe what he thinks of Palestine.thebest31406
he was a Hindu , you can't avoid that Im afraid. although since we are talking about people who support things, Martin Luther King and Churchill supported the Jews, so yeah , it goes both ways. I know youre upset because the Jews beat you , but getting upset is not the way to go , I suggest a good hobby , like golf or stamp collecting

MLK told a student before he died When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism. He never elaborated on the statement. Now we can argue back and forth on what he meant, but I can only conclude that he meant Zionism in its textbook definition. From that standpoint, it is true; to say that Jews don't deserve a nation like everyone else is anti-Semitic. Saying that, it would be extremely disingenuous and downright perverse to suggests that Martin Luther King, the man who condemned the US atrocities in Indochina, Latin America and the US support toward apartheid South Africa, would turn around make an acception for Israel's actions.

Of course he would :| those have nothing in common
#248 Posted by thebest31406 (3360 posts) -

[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] he was a Hindu , you can't avoid that Im afraid. although since we are talking about people who support things, Martin Luther King and Churchill supported the Jews, so yeah , it goes both ways. I know youre upset because the Jews beat you , but getting upset is not the way to go , I suggest a good hobby , like golf or stamp collectingthemajormayor
MLK told a student before he died When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism. He never elaborated on the statement. Now we can argue back and forth on what he meant, but I can only conclude that he meant Zionism in its textbook definition. From that standpoint, it is true; to say that Jews don't deserve a nation like everyone else is anti-Semitic. Saying that, it would be extremely disingenuous and downright perverse to suggests that Martin Luther King, the man who condemned the US atrocities in Indochina, Latin America and the US support toward apartheid South Africa, would turn around make an acception for Israel's actions.

Of course he would :| those have nothing in common

Why would he do that? What about him would suggest that he would? Care to elaborate a bit?

#249 Posted by themajormayor (25760 posts) -

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] MLK told a student before he died When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism. He never elaborated on the statement. Now we can argue back and forth on what he meant, but I can only conclude that he meant Zionism in its textbook definition. From that standpoint, it is true; to say that Jews don't deserve a nation like everyone else is anti-Semitic. Saying that, it would be extremely disingenuous and downright perverse to suggests that Martin Luther King, the man who condemned the US atrocities in Indochina, Latin America and the US support toward apartheid South Africa, would turn around make an acception for Israel's actions.thebest31406

Of course he would :| those have nothing in common

Why would he do that? What about him would suggest that he would? Care to elaborate a bit?

A man who apparantly condemned the US atrocities in Indochina, Latin America and the US support toward apartheid South Africa should definitely support the beacon of freedom/democracy/light/greatness/awesomenss on this planet.
#250 Posted by Storm_Marine (10863 posts) -

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"] In this instance, other side includes the whole Mid-East.th3warr1or

a Israeli nuclear first strike could destroy most major cities in the Middle East.

If anything can get the Shias and Sunnis to work together to attempt to annihilate Israel, that will.

Our hypothetical war scenario already assumes that they're working together.