Is there intelligence behind the process of evolution?

How is there only two options?
Your lack of understanding of what evolution actually is greatly diminishes the validity of your theory
Also, not at all relevant

@br0kenrabbit: So you reckon those that were driven to have sex by environmental triggers died out, and the ones that found pleasure in it were at it like rabbits and overtook? Makes sense but is there evidence of that? The whole process of evolution Is kinda like running scientific experiments trying out all different mutations seeing which ones were successful and building upon the successful ones. Seems as though there is some intelligence behind that.

@chaoscougar1: well there's unfeeling sex pleasurable sex, or painful sex, which one is the more logical choice for a species to successfully reproduce on a large scale. Also why do you say I don't understand evolution?

The evidence is that lower-life forms such as insects cannot experience pleasure. They don't really even have brains in the way we think of them, just more of a 'knot' on the end of their nerve cord.

And there's no intelligence behind evolution, it's simply a numbers game: out of countless billions of variations, a few are going to be just that much more successful than the rest.

Because you are giving some form of intelligence and free will to a process
Its just nature

@br0kenrabbit: I'm not being argumentative but how do you know insects don't feel pain pleasure fear, is there evidence for that.

Yes, evolution is intelligent. It will shortly take over the world

I'm chowing down on some food ATM, so I'm just going to point you to this article.

@chaoscougar1: saying it's just nature is all good, it's the human interpretation of a process that to me sounds like a scientific experiment a bunch of organisms with different mutation "let's see which ones are successful, oh those ones are more successful than those let's concentrate on those organisms with the improved mutation", introduce more mutations. The mutations that furthered a species where did these new mutations come from, seems like new mutations were being introduced all the way down the line.

@br0kenrabbit: Cool, but that doesn't go all the way to prove insects don't feel pain it proves some insects don't react to it.

I never stated that intelligence isn't behind evolution. I've only pointed out that it needn't be. Asking how evolution works is a good question. Assuming that it was put in motion by a creator isn't. Again, I'm not saying God didn't set evolution in motion. I'm just helping you ask better questions.

Nevertheless, some of your comments suggesting that evolution 'thinks' or that it has intelligence itself is confused. Someone has already explained that evolution works through random mutations.

@MonsieurX: no evolution itself is just a process what are you talking about, how can a process be intelligent?

I said is there an intelligence behind the process?

@SolidSnake35:

"Nevertheless, some of your comments suggesting that evolution 'thinks' or that it has intelligence itself is confused. Someone has already explained that evolution works through random mutations"

I said in my OP is there an intelligence "behind" evolution?

Plus I don't think evolution is just a random thing as I said before, where did all these new and improved mutations come from?

Pain is a complex neurological phenomenon. Insect brains simply do not have the capacity for it.

Furthering the sex topic, many creatures that don't even have nervous systems, much less a brain, manage to reproduce sexually. So...sex doesn't even require conscious thought. Ha!

@lostrib: "@ariabed: it doesn't know anything, it's not an intelligent being

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I said is there an intelligence behind evolution? In my OP I explained I know it's just a process.

And supposing they were designed by an intelligence, where would they come from? Thin air?

@br0kenrabbit: ok you got me there lol, but humans and animals do feel things, for such a complex living thing such as a human it's only logical to make sex pleasurable for them as humans have free will and are driven by desire rather than environmental changes as you said.

There may have been species that enjoyed sex more than others but still the mutation that made sex more and more pleasurable would have been newly introduced each time I think something intelligent was introducing these mutations.

Has evolution stopped? it seems like you can only improve something so much, if there is an intelligence behind evolution it is happy with the progress and has stopped adding mutations, we are now at a point where we can evolve ourselves, why would evolution just stop for us if it's a natural process? what triggered nature to stop evolution for us? Maybe evolution continues in other species but for humans I think it's stopped because we have fully adapted to our surroundings. What do you think?

Where is there any proof of evolution? Dinosaurs to birds? Wasn't it recently discovered that, supposedly, dinosaurs had feathers in the first place?

Pleasurable sex evolved well before our ancestors were walking upright. All mammals have the capacity for pain or pleasure, but mammals evolved from lessor life forms that did not. Those life forms, however, still had sex.

And humans are still evolving. Here's a short article on the subject.

@SolidSnake35: And supposing they were designed by an intelligence, where would they come from? Thin air?

Maybe all the mutations already exist in the genetics they are switched on by maybe a chemical signal through the air or something.

@br0kenrabbit: ok so there's a little fine tuning still happening but isn't that more adaption rather than evolution?

Okay, running with that idea, maybe all the mutations exist in the genetics and are switched on at random. Same randomness that determines the colour of your eyes. No need for intelligence there.

Adaptation ISevolution.

And we're actually evolving faster than ever before.

Okay, it is pretty obvious you need to take a basic biology class or look up evolution on the internet. Otherwise, you just look like an idiot every time you talk about evolution

@lostrib: I don't care what you guys think anymore or say I did care b4 but not now I'm not here to impress anyone you guys can think I'm an idiot all you like, who are you you're nothing to me. I can come in here an let all my idiotic ideas and thoughts out on you guys.

This is great!!

So you'd rather stay an idiot than spend some time actually learning something and answering your own questions

@thegerg: I said is there an intelligence behind the process of evolution, I.e something introducing all the mutations that advanced a species

You know, you do have a point. I think ariabed could save face just by doing a bit more research, especially on a topic such as this which has a ton of info out there on it.

even just the wikipedia article would help. Hell, the intro to the wikipedia article on Evolution would help

well your title says "does the process of evolution have intelligence" and that is the main thing most people will read. You also kept saying things like "how does evolution know" as if evolution is some sort of conscious being

@lostrib: yeah I want to learn of course!! I also like to discuss my thoughts put them out there. I'm not an expert on evolution and I don't pretend to be. Didn't the first signs of life on earth rain down from space?

@ariabed: how life started on earth isnt known.

If you took some time to get some basic understanding then you could ask less ridiculous questions

@lostrib: yes the first beginnings of life rained down on earth from space and were formed in the ocean, it has been theorised and tested. I knew that and I'm an idiot.

please link me the sources, and tell me where this is the accepted scientific theory. Because as far as I remember, there is a whole slew of hypotheses on abiogenesis, and the most common one is the spontaneous formation of life via the formation the building blocks of life (Miller-Urey experiments)

nah evolution is dumb. If it was smart it could happen in a fraction of the time, i bet.

@pyro1245: you can't rush perfection

Could be. We don't know. Some experiments on the theories on how the atmosphere might have been on earth in its early life have shown that biomolecules can be created, that even aminoacids can be created if I remember right.

@lostrib: it's a theory just like evolution is a theory, simple organisms and living things have been studied and test of this theory have successfully produced amino acids and other organic molecules.

@ariabed: you're misusing the term theory

It's obvious the christian god(jesus) is behind most of evolution and the universe.

One must simply look to the bible and all the proof is there.

@Jankarcop: ...seems legit

Simply put it's random mutations where the one most beneficial for that environment usually has a higher chance of survival.

If sex is pleasurable then you are more likely to want to do it, hence you are more likely to have offspring, hence you are more likely to spread that trait.

If a group of organisms live in an environment that is cold and wet then the ones that are better able to adapt and survive in that condition will have a higher chance of living long enough to reproduce and pass on their genetics.

The impact it makes depends on how severe the change in the environment is, how small and confined the population is and a bunch of other factors.

What does proof mean, sir?