@always_explicit said:
Give it ten years and I can see European borders becoming substantially more difficult to navigate for those from outside. Muslim or not. Just using England as an example, people are unhappy with the current immigration policies and as a result we are seeing an increase in the popularity of political parties who propose radical changes to that immigration policy.
If things get to hairy the people will end up picking an immigration policy that suits them. Its certainly nothing to worry about.
I cant blame individuals in tough circumstances for wanting to improve their quality of life, equally I think countries and their powers that be have a responsibility to maintain the quality of life for their current population...which could include not allowing it to grow disproportionately through immigration.
Well I think alot of that fear mongering is in port due to the difference between an immigrant and a refugee. Someone made a snart remark the last time I mentioned that alot of the people comming to Europe are Refugees from the middle East, NOT Immigrants, they are not there by choice, and often mentally damaged through what wars, fears and horrors have put them through.
As such they are easy to spot in society, bordering themselves in within small establishments wanting nothing to do with the World around them, doing what they can to guard what Little they still know, as it was not a choice. It is also those which cost alot of Money from a state to uphold, as very few ever gets a job, and most spend alot of time fighting mental illness and depression (Going by the numbers of this Country). Ironically I think it would be better for Refugees to be somewhere closer to the social norms and societies they know, I would not like to have to go somewhere with norms I could not accept, and be required to follow those, I am not there by choice.
The real issue comes with when Refugees has children that grows up with unstabile parents, or perhaps worse, children WHO unlike the parents fully Embrace the western society (and by all intents and purposes turns away from thier parants. I shit you not when by far the most killings in this country stems from honor killings between parent and children, both alien, but one following social norms completely incompatible with western values.
Point Being, In alot of European Countries Middle Easterns are often a focal point of news, and due to the banding together can seem like they try to "take over" parts of a city. In reality there is not that many Refugees per country, but due to what they have been through they are over prepresented in crime statistics, and bad press.
I would wish people stopped saying "muslims" as it is not muslims the West have issues with, but some of the social norms of part of the middle East, which we, sadly, are fundementally are incompatible with. An Immigrant on the flip side tends to travel to EU by own free will, in order to get education, job, get a wider Horizon, they might also be from the Middle East, but from stabile countries, and you know, not been through war.
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