Is stealing WIFI a bad thing?

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#1 Posted by TheStickMafia (835 posts) -

Personally if you aren't downloading intensly, I think it is fine. But what is everyone's preference?

#2 Edited by thegerg (15270 posts) -

Wifi isn't really the type of thing that you can steal.

#3 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -

The only way you would be stealing it is if you hacked their password. If it isn't passworded, then it is free for anybody in range.

#4 Posted by TheStickMafia (835 posts) -

I don't consider it stealing... Shoulda said something like using.

#5 Posted by Kevlar101 (6144 posts) -

@TheStickMafia said:

I don't consider it stealing... Shoulda said something like using.

Trust me, it's stealing.

#6 Edited by RushKing (1777 posts) -

I don't believe so. If you're not bandwidth hogging.

#7 Posted by airshocker (29697 posts) -

Yes. Why wouldn't using something without someone's express permission not be a bad thing?

#8 Posted by Treflis (11558 posts) -

Well you are technically using something others are paying for entirely for free.

So yeah, It's stealing.

#9 Edited by airshocker (29697 posts) -
@AmazonTreeBoa said:

The only way you would be stealing it is if you hacked their password. If it isn't passworded, then it is free for anybody in range.

No. Until you have someone's express permission it is still considered theft of service.

#10 Posted by sonicare (53468 posts) -

If someone doesnt have a password enabled for their network, I dont know if that is really stealing it.

#11 Edited by RushKing (1777 posts) -

TC didn't ask if connecting to a router in someone else's possession was stealing. TC asked if the act is inherently bad.

#12 Posted by GreySeal9 (24357 posts) -

@AmazonTreeBoa said:

The only way you would be stealing it is if you hacked their password. If it isn't passworded, then it is free for anybody in range.

This doesn't make sense. It's like saying that someone hasn't stolen your car if you neglected to lock it.

#13 Posted by thegerg (15270 posts) -

@RushKing said:

TC didn't ask if connecting to a router in someone else's possession was stealing. TC asked if the act is inherently bad.

There is question as to whether or not such an act (stealing wifi) is even possible. If it's not possible, then the answer is obviously no.

#14 Edited by RushKing (1777 posts) -

@thegerg said:

@RushKing said:

TC didn't ask if connecting to a router in someone else's possession was stealing. TC asked if the act is inherently bad.

There is question as to whether or not such an act (stealing wifi) is even possible. If it's not possible, then the answer is obviously no.

There are many ways to obtain resources, acts which me and many other people would consider unethical, not recognized as theft according to government. The levelling out of old-growth forests by lumber companies for an example.

#15 Edited by thegerg (15270 posts) -

@RushKing said:

@thegerg said:

@RushKing said:

TC didn't ask if connecting to a router in someone else's possession was stealing. TC asked if the act is inherently bad.

There is question as to whether or not such an act (stealing wifi) is even possible. If it's not possible, then the answer is obviously no.

There are many ways to obtain resources, acts which me and many other people would consider unethical, not recognized as theft according to government. The levelling out of old-growth forests by lumber companies for an example.

...ok...

#17 Posted by 4myAmuzumament (1750 posts) -

do pigs oink?

#18 Posted by hippiesanta (9868 posts) -

It's not stealing if something is expose ..... it's luck!

#19 Posted by Master_Live (14664 posts) -

It is a good thing.

#20 Edited by johnd13 (8147 posts) -

I wish I could do it.

#22 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -

@airshocker said:
@AmazonTreeBoa said:

The only way you would be stealing it is if you hacked their password. If it isn't passworded, then it is free for anybody in range.

No. Until you have someone's express permission it is still considered theft of service.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

#24 Posted by GazaAli (22858 posts) -

I think it would be real douchbaggery to mooch off of someone else's Internet connection in general. If its an emergency, like you really need to send an email and for some reason your Internet connection is unavailable then yea we all could turn a blind eye to such a thing. But to do it regularly is being a real dickhead.

I remember back in high school when Internet access was still so costly and scarce around here I managed to get hold of a dial up Internet connection's password and I went pretty wild with it. It came back to bite me in the ass though, my father was going to kill me because of the insanely high telephone bill he got that month.

#25 Posted by ad1x2 (5626 posts) -

I consider it stupid for somebody to have wireless in their home and not set up a strong password but last time I checked victim stupidity isn't a defense in court for the person taking advantage of them. I don't know if it is flat out illegal but in today's era of internet connections where more and more companies are adopting data caps I would hate to see somebody have a larger bill because their neighbor was stealing their connection. Or worse, the thief used the connection for illegal activity (child porn, hacking, etc) and their neighbor was investigated over it.

#26 Posted by ferrari2001 (16933 posts) -

If it isn't password protected then it's an open wifi network and thus free game. If you have to use a password sniffer to crack their password in order to access their network then yes it is stealing.

#27 Posted by chessmaster1989 (29305 posts) -

Yes it's stealing if you use someone's wifi without (express or implied) permission. Doesn't matter whether it's password-protected or not.

#28 Edited by airshocker (29697 posts) -

@AmazonTreeBoa said:

@airshocker said:
@AmazonTreeBoa said:

The only way you would be stealing it is if you hacked their password. If it isn't passworded, then it is free for anybody in range.

No. Until you have someone's express permission it is still considered theft of service.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

It's not an opinion. It's a fact. Greyseal said it perfectly, just because someone didn't lock their car doesn't mean you're allowed to take it and do with it as you will. That's still considered theft.

#29 Posted by Ariabed (1105 posts) -

@hippiesanta: yeh it's like finding money in the street lol

#30 Posted by LJS9502_basic (151100 posts) -

It is considered theft....

#31 Posted by seahorse123 (1228 posts) -

It is not stealing, the people who have wifi should make sure other people are not on it as well, simple as.

#32 Edited by LJS9502_basic (151100 posts) -

@seahorse123 said:

It is not stealing, the people who have wifi should make sure other people are not on it as well, simple as.

No. You can't blame the victim. Simple as....

#33 Posted by playmynutz (5983 posts) -

It's like sharing a strangers toilet, I don't know

#34 Edited by TheStickMafia (835 posts) -

Victim? Do you consider it a crime, because using Wifi isn't that bad. I actually have a friend who pirates from any Wifi he finds, never have seen him in a jail.

#35 Edited by GreySeal9 (24357 posts) -

@AmazonTreeBoa said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@AmazonTreeBoa said:

The only way you would be stealing it is if you hacked their password. If it isn't passworded, then it is free for anybody in range.

This doesn't make sense. It's like saying that someone hasn't stolen your car if you neglected to lock it.

Are you an idiot or just trying to play the role? No it isn't the same. You take my car and you go to jail. I use your unpassworded wifi and there isn't shit you can do because no laws were broken. I really hope you were just trying to play the stupid role here and weren't really serious with your comment and comparison

You have no clue what you're talking about. Just because people don't usually get caught stealing wifi doesn't mean it's not a crime.

One man even got arrested for stealing wi-fi.

#36 Posted by uninspiredcup (8674 posts) -

It's illegal in the UK.

#37 Posted by PSP107 (11899 posts) -

My wifi is open.

#38 Posted by Netret0120 (2160 posts) -

@PSP107:

Where do you live?

#39 Posted by PSP107 (11899 posts) -

@Netret0120 said:

@PSP107:

Where do you live?

why?

#40 Posted by Serraph105 (28081 posts) -

Free wifi never feels like a bad thing.

That being said stealing is wrong.

#41 Edited by LJS9502_basic (151100 posts) -

@TheStickMafia said:

Victim? Do you consider it a crime, because using Wifi isn't that bad. I actually have a friend who pirates from any Wifi he finds, never have seen him in a jail.

Against the law is against the law.....not bad is subjective. I'd imagine if it was your wifi you'd sing a different tune.

#42 Posted by Makhaidos (1614 posts) -

Is stealing a bad thing?

If yes, then yes. If no, then no.

Simple, really.

#43 Posted by XVision84 (13689 posts) -

Yeah, it's not yours to use. Of course it's a bad thing, lol.

#44 Posted by TheStickMafia (835 posts) -

@LJ I never would set a free access to any wireless. Get a password, it's not that hard.

#47 Edited by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -
@GreySeal9 said:

@AmazonTreeBoa said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@AmazonTreeBoa said:

The only way you would be stealing it is if you hacked their password. If it isn't passworded, then it is free for anybody in range.

This doesn't make sense. It's like saying that someone hasn't stolen your car if you neglected to lock it.

Are you an idiot or just trying to play the role? No it isn't the same. You take my car and you go to jail. I use your unpassworded wifi and there isn't shit you can do because no laws were broken. I really hope you were just trying to play the stupid role here and weren't really serious with your comment and comparison

You have no clue what you're talking about. Just because people don't usually get caught stealing wifi doesn't mean it's not a crime.

One man even got arrested for stealing wi-fi.

Here is something a bit more recent for you. http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/03/pr_burning_wifi_squatting/

#48 Posted by seahorse123 (1228 posts) -

@airshocker: It's wifi, it's like leaving a pie near your window when you know someone always steals it.

#49 Posted by LJS9502_basic (151100 posts) -

@seahorse123 said:

@airshocker: It's wifi, it's like leaving a pie near your window when you know someone always steals it.

At least you admit it's stealing...

#50 Posted by seahorse123 (1228 posts) -

There are different types of stealing in my opinion

1. Armed robbery

2. Smashing open a parking metre

3. Picking up money from the floor when you know who's it is

4. Stealing wifi