Is it okay for a guy who likes men to go into the ladies room?

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#1 Posted by LegitGamer3212 (1619 posts) -

I work at a casino in NY and one of my co workers is gay Today after we changed in the men's changing room, he was calling this girl who was heading towards the women's changing room. He entered the girl's changing room and told me the girls don't mind him going in. I strongly believe if human resource was to find out he'd get written up. I'm straight so maybe if I entered the girl's wouldn't be happy. He claims he goes in all the time and looks while they're changing. He also believes him going into the women's restroom is fine. He is legitimately gay what is your opinion about guys who like men and which restroom/lockers they should be using? should they have a separate area all for themselves?

#2 Posted by -Tish- (3621 posts) -
Yes segregate them from society.
#3 Posted by Blazerdt47 (5669 posts) -
Pretend your g@y, go into girls changing rooms, profit.
#4 Posted by SilentFireX (1951 posts) -
No. Men belong in the men's room, and women belong in the women's room. I don't care whether you're transgender, transsexual, or homosexual... you get to use the facility assigned to the gender you were born with.
#5 Posted by Pffrbt (6596 posts) -

No. Men belong in the men's room, and women belong in the women's room. I don't care whether you're transgender, transsexual, or homosexual... you get to use the facility assigned to the gender you were born with. SilentFireX

Is it the 1950's?

#6 Posted by ghoklebutter (19327 posts) -

Of course it is. It should be okay for straight guys to do that as well. Likewise, I see nothing wrong with women using men's restrooms.

As someone with a male body, however, I personally wouldn't dare to go into a women's restroom.

#7 Posted by SilentFireX (1951 posts) -

[QUOTE="SilentFireX"]No. Men belong in the men's room, and women belong in the women's room. I don't care whether you're transgender, transsexual, or homosexual... you get to use the facility assigned to the gender you were born with. Pffrbt

Is it the 1950's?

...where do you draw the line? If I associate myself more with women, should all the women in the public restroom be forced to accommodate my personal preference to be in the ladies' room? Unless one goes by a standard of initial gender, then there can be no rules for restrooms based upon gender. I am curious; do you advocate unisex bathrooms and changing rooms?

#8 Posted by soulless4now (41381 posts) -

Absolutely not. Only time it's okay for a male to go into the female bathroom is when he's a little kid and he's out shopping with mom.

#9 Posted by Bikouchu35 (7619 posts) -

No, unless he legally changed his gender to a she.

#10 Posted by SilentFireX (1951 posts) -

No, unless he legally changed his gender to a she.

Bikouchu35

Who determines the "legality" of the change? If I cut off my penis,gave myself a down-below indention, and glued on some breasts, is that good enough for you as long as the government gives the the "OK"?

#11 Posted by freek666 (22312 posts) -

Not unless the rest of us, gay or not, can.

#12 Posted by Dogswithguns (10916 posts) -

I would screem bloody murder if a gay man walks in my room watching me change my clothes.. Im a strait guy BTW.

#13 Posted by magicalclick (23767 posts) -
I would rather stay in man's room and drooling over beefy bodies than doing sister talk in ladies room. No comment on if that is ok or not. If the ladies don't complain, there is not much to argue about. But, IMO, that's just pointless because beefy body is way hotter.
#14 Posted by SilentFireX (1951 posts) -

I would rather stay in man's room and drooling over beefy bodies than doing sister talk in ladies room. No comment on if that is ok or not. If the ladies don't complain, there is not much to argue about. But, IMO, that's just pointless because beefy body is way hotter.magicalclick


What do you think of my body?


CutsOfBeef.jpg

#15 Posted by Socialist696 (558 posts) -
What if hes secretly straight, and has just brilliantly worked the system to his advantage unknowing to you?
#16 Posted by chaoscougar1 (36991 posts) -
Restrooms are based on gender Not sexual preference
#17 Posted by chaoscougar1 (36991 posts) -

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]I would rather stay in man's room and drooling over beefy bodies than doing sister talk in ladies room. No comment on if that is ok or not. If the ladies don't complain, there is not much to argue about. But, IMO, that's just pointless because beefy body is way hotter.SilentFireX


What do you think of my body?


CutsOfBeef.jpg

I'm a little turned on
#18 Posted by junglist101 (5462 posts) -

It sounds like this guy just wants attention and to advertise his gayness. Which is ok, but it seems like he's doing it at the risk of his job.

#19 Posted by LegitGamer3212 (1619 posts) -

It sounds like this guy just wants attention and to advertise his gayness. Which is ok, but it seems like he's doing it at the risk of his job.

junglist101

so the question is if human resources found out he was pulling a stunt like this, should they fire him being that the young ladies don't mind.

#20 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (43223 posts) -
We segregate based on sex, not sexuality.
#21 Posted by chaoscougar1 (36991 posts) -

[QUOTE="junglist101"]

It sounds like this guy just wants attention and to advertise his gayness. Which is ok, but it seems like he's doing it at the risk of his job.

LegitGamer3212

so the question is if human resources found out he was pulling a stunt like this, should they fire him being that the young ladies don't mind.

Fire, no Stop, yes
#22 Posted by Rhazakna (11022 posts) -
I've gone in women's bathrooms, usually while intoxicated on something. I'm not gay but the women took it in stride. Guys should try it sometime, women don't actually seem to care, surprisingly.
#23 Posted by Socialist696 (558 posts) -

[QUOTE="junglist101"]

It sounds like this guy just wants attention and to advertise his gayness. Which is ok, but it seems like he's doing it at the risk of his job.

LegitGamer3212

so the question is if human resources found out he was pulling a stunt like this, should they fire him being that the young ladies don't mind.

If ALL the ladies are consenting to it, theres no reason anything is wrong with it. Its most likely not a place where the women get fully unclothed either..and if it is that just makes it all the weirder but if they consent than what can management really do?
#24 Posted by MrGeezer (57032 posts) -

I work at a casino in NY and one of my co workers is gay Today after we changed in the men's changing room, he was calling this girl who was heading towards the women's changing room. He entered the girl's changing room and told me the girls don't mind him going in. I strongly believe if human resource was to find out he'd get written up. I'm straight so maybe if I entered the girl's wouldn't be happy. He claims he goes in all the time and looks while they're changing. He also believes him going into the women's restroom is fine. He is legitimately gay what is your opinion about guys who like men and which restroom/lockers they should be using? should they have a separate area all for themselves?

LegitGamer3212
Men's room is for men, women's room is for women. You're damn right HR would have a problem with him going into the women's room, because he's not a woman.
#25 Posted by VanHelsingBoA64 (5455 posts) -
support gender equality by taking sweet dumps in whichever room you please
#26 Posted by SilentFireX (1951 posts) -
I've gone in women's bathrooms, usually while intoxicated on something. I'm not gay but the women took it in stride. Guys should try it sometime, women don't actually seem to care, surprisingly.Rhazakna
I suppose it is inherently less intrusive, considering that women's bathrooms only consist of closed-off stalls; whereas, men's rooms have urinals where their genitalia can easily be seen. That being said, I value others' privacy too much to potentially invade the privacy of women in such a manner. (I'm not implying that you don't, so please don't take my statement negatively.)
#27 Posted by LegitGamer3212 (1619 posts) -

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

[QUOTE="junglist101"]

It sounds like this guy just wants attention and to advertise his gayness. Which is ok, but it seems like he's doing it at the risk of his job.

Socialist696

so the question is if human resources found out he was pulling a stunt like this, should they fire him being that the young ladies don't mind.

If ALL the ladies are consenting to it, theres no reason anything is wrong with it. Its most likely not a place where the women get fully unclothed either..and if it is that just makes it all the weirder but if they consent than what can management really do?

true the changing room is just basically you change into your uniform, you don't get completely naked. What about the women's restroom though

#28 Posted by Socialist696 (558 posts) -
Cut the guy a break, hes got a vagina at heart :( hes probally more woman than any woman in there! haha
#29 Posted by MrGeezer (57032 posts) -

[QUOTE="junglist101"]

It sounds like this guy just wants attention and to advertise his gayness. Which is ok, but it seems like he's doing it at the risk of his job.

LegitGamer3212

so the question is if human resources found out he was pulling a stunt like this, should they fire him being that the young ladies don't mind.

Well, HR wouldn't find out anyway unless someone's complaining. And yes...if someone's complaining then he should face some sort of disciplinary action. Maybe not as harsh as firing him, but something's gotta be done.
#30 Posted by SilentFireX (1951 posts) -
[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

[QUOTE="junglist101"]

It sounds like this guy just wants attention and to advertise his gayness. Which is ok, but it seems like he's doing it at the risk of his job.

MrGeezer

so the question is if human resources found out he was pulling a stunt like this, should they fire him being that the young ladies don't mind.

Well, HR wouldn't find out anyway unless someone's complaining. And yes...if someone's complaining then he should face some sort of disciplinary action. Maybe not as harsh as firing him, but something's gotta be done.

It's a lawsuit waiting to happen.
#31 Posted by Shottayouth13- (6862 posts) -
No. Men belong in the men's room, and women belong in the women's room. I don't care whether you're transgender, transsexual, or homosexual... you get to use the facility assigned to the gender you were born with. SilentFireX
All that needs to be said.
#32 Posted by THE_DRUGGIE (24976 posts) -

Well of course, why not?

#33 Posted by LegitGamer3212 (1619 posts) -

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

so the question is if human resources found out he was pulling a stunt like this, should they fire him being that the young ladies don't mind.

SilentFireX

Well, HR wouldn't find out anyway unless someone's complaining. And yes...if someone's complaining then he should face some sort of disciplinary action. Maybe not as harsh as firing him, but something's gotta be done.

It's a lawsuit waiting to happen.

lawsuit on behalf of who, if the girls are consenting to it.

#34 Posted by junglist101 (5462 posts) -

[QUOTE="Socialist696"][QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

so the question is if human resources found out he was pulling a stunt like this, should they fire him being that the young ladies don't mind.

LegitGamer3212

If ALL the ladies are consenting to it, theres no reason anything is wrong with it. Its most likely not a place where the women get fully unclothed either..and if it is that just makes it all the weirder but if they consent than what can management really do?

true the changing room is just basically you change into your uniform, you don't get completely naked. What about the women's restroom though

I think from HR's perspective they would view what he's doing as a liability regardless if the employees seem cool with it. It would just take one employee looking for a payday to claim that he has been harassing her by coming into the changing room whilst the company did nothing to stop his behavior.

#35 Posted by SilentFireX (1951 posts) -

[QUOTE="SilentFireX"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"] Well, HR wouldn't find out anyway unless someone's complaining. And yes...if someone's complaining then he should face some sort of disciplinary action. Maybe not as harsh as firing him, but something's gotta be done. LegitGamer3212

It's a lawsuit waiting to happen.

lawsuit on behalf of who, if the girls are consenting to it.

Unless there are signed affidavits from every single woman who utilizes the dressing room, anyone who decides to file a lawsuit based upon sexual harassment could easily find grounds for violation, at least enough grounds to warrant a settlement or a reprimand. If HR does find out about such an occurrence, they'd be quite foolish not to ensure it doesn't happen again. It's quite simply a grossly unecessary liabilty that no responsible company would allow.

#36 Posted by homegirl2180 (7161 posts) -

[QUOTE="SilentFireX"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"] Well, HR wouldn't find out anyway unless someone's complaining. And yes...if someone's complaining then he should face some sort of disciplinary action. Maybe not as harsh as firing him, but something's gotta be done. LegitGamer3212

It's a lawsuit waiting to happen.

lawsuit on behalf of who, if the girls are consenting to it.

Well the argument is that for HR to find out, barring just random inspections, someone complained. The way HR works though, even if no one complained and they found out, they'd still take action probably on the grounds that either a new hire could have a problem with it and file a lawsuit, or if they tried to protect themselves from a lawsuit and told all new hires about it (which is somewhat absurd), they'd be potentially alienating good employees. You could make the argument that they'd be potentially alienating good employees who have a problem with NOT allowing it, but one pool's going to be larger than the other.
#37 Posted by cmpepper23 (3256 posts) -

No. It's based on sex, not sexuality or gender.

#38 Posted by MrGeezer (57032 posts) -

lawsuit on behalf of who, if the girls are consenting to it.

LegitGamer3212
Whoever files a complaint with HR obviously isn't consenting to it. Look...all of the women might be fine with it NOW, but there's always the chance that some woman is going to get hired and will sort of have a problem that there's a man using the women's room. At that point, maybe she'll ignore it because all of the other women don't seem to mind, or maybe she'll just plain go to HR and file a complaint. If she chooses to file a complaint, then HR has to stop it. You can't have a woman complaining that there's a man continually using the women's room, and HR doing nothing about it. If she then files a complaint and this $*** keeps on happening, then she's got every reason to sue. It's like...not long ago there was this skinny guy complaining about favoritism towards fat people. He was getting harrassed by this fat ckick at his job, then he made fun of her for being fat. Then she went and complained, and he got reprimanded. And yet, he was still crying about how it was unfair. F*** that. Part of HR's job is to deal with this sort of $*** so that the company doesn't get sued. The only reason they did anything was because the fat chick filed a complaint, and at that point they have to act. That's sort of their jobs. If no one complains, then of course the situation will continue to happen.
#39 Posted by Shmiity (5307 posts) -

Ehhh, I almost said yes. But now that I think about it, restrooms are created based on your sex, not your sexual preference. Someone could BS that they are gay and totally take advantage of this. You know it's happened before.

#40 Posted by Bikouchu35 (7619 posts) -

[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

No, unless he legally changed his gender to a she.

SilentFireX

Who determines the "legality" of the change? If I cut off my penis,gave myself a down-below indention, and glued on some breasts, is that good enough for you as long as the government gives the the "OK"?

Why are you asking me? Are you curious about that lol?

I guess at that point you are a practically a she and it would say so on your id, so you won't get busted for entering the wrong restroom.

#41 Posted by Pffrbt (6596 posts) -

...where do you draw the line?
Men/women going into the opposite's restroom.
If I associate myself more with women, should all the women in the public restroom be forced to accommodate my personal preference to be in the ladies' room?
No, but if you identify as a woman yes.
Unless one goes by a standard of initial gender, then there can be no rules for restrooms based upon gender.
Yes there can. And transgender people's gender is their initial gender regardless their initial sex.
I am curious; do you advocate unisex bathrooms and changing rooms?SilentFireX

No.

#42 Posted by SirWander (5176 posts) -

not really.

If the only reason they're allowing him in there is because they perceive him to be a non-sexual and non-threatening presence, I wonder if they would feel confortable knowing that there's a lesbian in there as well.

#43 Posted by Aljosa23 (25905 posts) -

Segregated washrooms are pointless in this day and age anyway.

#44 Posted by Ravensmash (13862 posts) -

I work at a casino in NY and one of my co workers is gay Today after we changed in the men's changing room, he was calling this girl who was heading towards the women's changing room. He entered the girl's changing room and told me the girls don't mind him going in. I strongly believe if human resource was to find out he'd get written up. I'm straight so maybe if I entered the girl's wouldn't be happy. He claims he goes in all the time and looks while they're changing. He also believes him going into the women's restroom is fine. He is legitimately gay what is your opinion about guys who like men and which restroom/lockers they should be using? should they have a separate area all for themselves?

LegitGamer3212
Sexual orientation and biological sex are typically two different things though.
#45 Posted by airshocker (30933 posts) -

No.

#46 Posted by Bucked20 (6651 posts) -
He probably sits down to piss too
#47 Posted by TrainerCeleste (1633 posts) -

They are still men :P Therefore they still go into the Men's room.

Unless hes Trans he belongs in the men's section :P

#48 Posted by Fightingfan (38011 posts) -

I've done it before on accident and it was no big deal.

I was handling large amounts of money, and my hands felt dirty so I walked into the restroom to wash my hands, women are all around me doing their makeup and no ones says a thing until I ask "Am I in the wrong restroom, or are you" and I look around and there's no urinals Lol

It was no biggy, but everyone laughed.

*Read that wrong.

A homosexual man?

I've seen my homosexual friend use both, when he's dressed like a women he goes to the women's restroom and vice versa.

#49 Posted by MrPraline (21331 posts) -
Did it once on accident, but seriously, why would you WANT to stand in line for 45 minutes? Men's room +1
#50 Posted by dkdk999 (6741 posts) -
Why would he want to go into the girls room if he likes men ?